Vitiate (Ziost) vs Luke Skywalker - Force Only Battle

Originally posted by Beniboybling
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15186507#post15186507 tbh.

Apparently your inability to reason has a lot to do with your inability to read.

So his ability

From then on, he [Vader] wasn't as strong as the Emperor – he was like Darth Maul or Count Dooku. He wasn't what he was supposed to become. But the son could become that.

Anakin's potential was to become twice as powerful as the Emperor, Luke fufilled that potential, therefore becoming twice as powerful as the Emperor. That is the only reading.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Anakin's potential was to become twice as powerful as the Emperor, Luke fufilled that potential, therefore becoming twice as powerful as the Emperor. That is the only reading.

Sorry, that's not what the text says or even implies. Good try though 👆

Believing that Luke prime is as powerful as DE Sidious x2 is beyond redemption.

Originally posted by Sinious
Believing that Luke prime is as powerful as DE Sidious x2 is beyond redemption.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Sorry, that's not what the text says or even implies. Good try though 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol ok, feel free to prove otherwise when you have the time.

Looks like someone still doesn't understand how burden of proof works. You made the claim, you have to prove it. Since you can't, I accept your concession. Moving on.

Believing that Luke prime is as powerful as DE Sidious x2 is beyond redemption.

Luke could be 2x Sidious but he never got there. And Lucas never did anything post-RotJ or payed attention to that shit so its not like for Lucas Luke ever became that powerful.

Are we talking about how destructive these characters can get or who would win in a duel?

Cause even Nihilus may rival them in the former category but I don't see anyone beating Luke 1on1.

I'm not sure, didn't Luke run away from a volcano exploding or the darkside of a planets nexus exploding or something in LotF? That seemed to be on a lesser scale than killing a planet.

I meant Nihilus rivals the likes of Vitiate, Sidious etc. Lightsiders are never really that destructive.

But yeah, if formless version of Vitiate cannot be harmed, he will kill Luke + all life in Coruscant.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Looks like someone still doesn't understand how burden of proof works. You made the claim, you have to prove it. Since you can't, I accept your concession. Moving on.

One of the things I think is going on here is people overestimating the Dark Side in general. Destroying is what it does...but that's all it does. But it is not actually stronger then the Light.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Luke could be 2x Sidious but he never got there. And Lucas never did anything post-RotJ or payed attention to that shit so its not like for Lucas Luke ever became that powerful.

And while true the post-ROTJ did pay attention to Lucas, I can't think of much other reason why they would make him so uber powerful, pulling down and rebuilding mountain sized fortresses and the like.

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I'm not sure what would stop him reaching his potential.

I did, you claimed my reading was incorrect the burden of proof is in you.

Anakin had the potential to be the most powerful force user in history, Luke canonically filled that potential, I don't see why there's arguments about him not.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Very simple understanding of the english language. You seem to be confused.

How did you know I'm black?