Originally posted by Beniboybling
Show me tbh. And why would other areas be different? The energy was distributed evenly across the planet.That doesn't give you permission to assume he could because you want it to be so.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nihilus' Force Drain powers weren't supposed to either, so what's your point?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which was the same case for Nihilus, except the side effects were more intense, how many times must I repeat this?
Their is a major difference in both expressions of Force Drain. Nihilus's expression manifested like a storm while Vitiate's expression manifested like a wave of energy.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Aside from the respect in which it leaves physical and man made structures intact.
Here are some scenes of devastation:-
Remains of a structure:
Damaged surface of the planet:
Damaged trees:
There is lot more. You have the game, play it and made comprehensive comparison of scenes before apocalypse and after the apocalypse.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do you know what an appeal to ignorance is? Its treating an absence of evidence as evidence of absence. But a lack of evidence is not evidence. There is not a single depiction of Nihilus effecting a life form full stop, so why are you assuming the effects?
Nihilus might be able to perform different expressions of Force Drain but he haven't been depicted unleashing a deadly field of apocalyptic proportions that can literally atomize living beings. His demonstration of apocalyptic proportions manifests in a different manner and its effects are likely different accordingly.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
No it wasn't. You were the one who made the claim that Nihilus didn't atomise living beings, you need to prove it.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Unlike you I am making no assumptions on the subject, including that one. My basis for Nihilus superiority is grounded in other and actual proof.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDFor reasons you have yet to explain.
My point is that sheer scale of destruction across the planet cannot be adequately determined from a small region.
Darth Nihilus's apocalyptic Force Drain power seem to possess elements of telekinesis and takes appearance of a massive storm. That expression of Force Drain have been demonstrated to directly harm man made structures and not just living beings. Side-effects analogy does not fits in this case.Why? Vitiate's power caused violent tremors, felt even by the space station in orbit. It is quite obvious the side effects of powerful dark side expressions can take the form of telekinesis. This is merely a more extreme form.
Regardless does it really matter? More power was exerted either way, and more destruction was the result. Irrespective of intention.
You are making an assumption. Don't try to act like an authoritarian in this matter.Evidently the visual difference between one demonstration, and a more powerful one.Their is a major difference in both expressions of Force Drain. Nihilus's expression manifested like a storm while Vitiate's expression manifested like a wave of energy.
Its intensity created earthquakes that damaged natural environment and man-made structures. So?He caused some damage to some crumbling thousands year old tombs and withered some trees. Bravo.
There is lot more. You have the game, play it and made comprehensive comparison of scenes before apocalypse and after the apocalypse.I think the cutscenes are sufficient. Regardless, its all non-canon, right?
This isn't a sound logic. Either you are able to support your assertion with evidence or not. In your case, you are not able to.I'm supported all my assertions, the only assertion I haven't supported is that Nihilus can atomise living beings, because I never made it.
Nihilus might be able to perform different expressions of Force Drain but he haven't been depicted unleashing a deadly field of apocalyptic proportions that can literally atomize living beings. His demonstration of apocalyptic proportions manifests in a different manner and its effects are likely different accordingly.Which proves nothing, nor can you assume anything.
It's simple. Their is no such demonstration of Nihilus so far.Which again, proves nothing.
You are making assumptions about effects of Nihilus's apocalyptic Force Drain; side-effects; effect on living beings; and its superiority in general. You have overlooked the matters of differences in expressions of Force Drain, lack of sufficient information about devastation on planetary-scale, difference in durability of Imperial structures on Ziost and Miralukan structures on Katarr.Uh-huh.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
For reasons you have yet to explain.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Why? Vitiate's power caused violent tremors, felt even by the space station in orbit. It is quite obvious the side effects of powerful dark side expressions can take the form of telekinesis. This is merely a more extreme form.Regardless does it really matter? More power was exerted either way, and more destruction was the result.
In comparison, we don't have visual demonstration of Darth Nihilus's expression of Force Drain; we don't know about its behavior. We have pictorial depictions of Nihilus's power manifesting like a storm, collapsing structures, and statements about it killing living beings. We don't know if Nihilus's power produced earthquakes as a side-effect, we don't know about its effects on living beings, oceans, and atmosphere of the planet.
In addition, we don't how much damage each expression of the Force Drain caused to the environment on planetary-scale.
Understand?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Evidently the visual difference between one demonstration, and a more powerful one.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
He caused some damage to some crumbling thousands year old tombs and withered some trees. Bravo.I think the cutscenes are sufficient. Regardless, its all non-canon, right?
Vitiate's power produced violent tremors on planetary scale; damage to natural environment would be logically extensive. In addition, Vitiate's power evidently consumed oceans, atomized life forms, and harmed the planet's atmosphere. Don't try to minimize stuff to promote your agenda.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm supported all my assertions, the only assertion I haven't supported is that Nihilus can atomise living beings, because I never made it.Which proves nothing, nor can you assume anything.
Which again, proves nothing.Uh-huh.
Nihilus's showing isn't superior in comparison. You are trying to really hard to promote it as such with assumptions and metaphores.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Sith maybe, sith lords doubt it.
Also:
"When this world turns to red and you choke on torrents of blood, remember that this was your chance to flee. A chance I… gave…" - Vitiate
The protags managed to flee because Vitiate issued a warning to them in advance. Nobody can survive Vitiate's apocalyptic powers.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI'll take that as a concession.
If you cannot understand a simple logic, I cannot help you.
Understand?If your appealing to ambiguity what you're failing to comprehend is that Nihilus superior destructive ability is a reflection of its holistic superiority in terms of raw power. If the side-effects of the ability were more potent, we can assume the Force drain itself to match in superior potency.
I notice how you conveniently overlooked damage done to the planet's landscape. 🙄Because in killing all life on Katarr, Nihilus would have replicated it.
And of course if he's tearing down cities the landscape is hardly going to be in the best shape.
Vitiate's power produced violent tremors on planetary scale; damage to natural environment would be logically extensive.Aside from the man made and natural structures, right?
In addition, Vitiate's power evidently consumed oceans, atomized life forms, and harmed the planet's atmosphere. Don't try to minimize stuff to promote your agenda.Its called looking at comparable evidence. This is nice and all, but proves nothing.
You make assumptions and then you deny them. Revisit your earlier arguments to refresh your memory because you have the tendency to forget what you said earlier.Uh-huh.
Nihilus's showing isn't superior in comparison. You are trying to really hard to promote it as such with assumptions and metaphores.Okely dokely.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
That was Plagueis's theory, not a confirmed fact. Fact of the matter is Lucas and the Essential Guide confirms Anakin fulfilled his prophecy by destroying Sidious. Nothing contradicts that. As I said, destroying Sidious's diffused the dark side on a cosmic level. I never said it has a bearing in combat, but it is something that was directly tied to Sidious unmatched connection to the dark side, which is a product of power, and something the force perceived as a threat, whether or not Sidious had yet to fully tap into his full power over the force. If this wasn't the case, then Palpatine's death would be irrelevant in restoring balance back, which is the very thing that did bring it back into balance. Anakin's birth was also prophesied thousands of years before Sidious was ever born, and before the force was out of balance, but it doesn't change the fact that Sidious was the imbalance. So by your logic Palpatine had absolutley nothing to do with the imbalance, and Anakin wasn't born to bring balance, since his prophesied birth was way before the great imbalance.