Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)

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Originally posted by Robtard
You said he couldn't use Force-crush on a body because he's never done so, regardless that he's crushed something more difficult (metal). You're desperately doing flips now and backtracking, it's hilarious. Too easy.
Hes never force crushed a humanoid. You can argue inanimate objects but you don't get to say since Vader force crushed the surroundings after hearing of Padmes death he insta crushed Palpatine.

It's ridiculous and fanfic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its never occurred. Quit with the fanfics.

Crushing AT-AT occurred 👆

Hes never force crushed a humanoid. You can argue inanimate objects but you don't get to say since Vader force crushed the surroundings after hearing of Padmes death he insta crushed Palpatine.

>uses Palpatine as a counterargument

You can let go of the straws now darling

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Crushing AT-AT occurred 👆

>uses Palpatine as a counterargument

You can let go of the straws now darling

I never denied that. He does not crush humanoids though. Never occurred.

You are fanficing. That simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never denied that. He does not crush humanoids though. Never occurred.

You are fanficing. That simple.

"He may have crushed an AT-AT, but that doesn't mean he can crush something many times less durable like a human"

You're a terrible troll 👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"He may have crushed an AT-AT, but that doesn't mean he can crush something many times less durable like a human"

You're a terrible troll 👆

You don't have. A single example. Force users go up against humanoids all the time. You're an idiot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't have. A single example. Poor de users go up against humanoids all the time. You're an idiot.

"Poor de users", and improper sentence structure? You seem nervous and unstable, quanchi-kun 😂

Crushing an AT-AT is an example, unless according to you Yoda can't lift a teacup with the force because he never did specifically that 👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"Poor de users", and improper sentence structure? You seem nervous and unstable, quanchi-kun 😂

Crushing an AT-AT is an example, unless according to you Yoda can't lift a teacup with the force because he never did specifically that 👆

autocorrected. Chill out, nerd.

Yoda has lifted greater objects but that doesn't help Yoda force push Palpatine any harder. We see him use his force powers on a human body, 😂

Hard push.

When did Vader ever rip apart a human ? I've seen him force choke. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
autocorrected. Chill out, nerd.

"Poor de" users

Yoda has lifted greater objects

And Vader force crushed more durable objects you dumb shit

but that doesn't help Yoda force push Palpatine any harder. We see him use his force powers on a human body, 😂

Good on palpatine for surviving Yoda's attacks, means he's that durable, though nice to see you're back to reiterating debunked arguments 👆

When did Vader ever rip apart a human ? I've seen him force choke. 😂

He force crushed an AT-AT, he can do the same to a much less durable thing

And you say him force choke? Really? That's mad bruh 🙄

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"Poor de" users

And Vader force crushed more durable objects you dumb shit

Good on palpatine for surviving Yoda's attacks, means he's that durable, though nice to see you're back to reiterating debunked arguments 👆

He force crushed an AT-AT, he can do the same to a much less durable thing

And you say him force choke? Really? That's mad bruh 🙄

So emotional. He's been held prisoner before despite having force users. He's never done so.

He's an old man. he survived a force push. Big deal. Winds kicked him effort and his saber came right out., his own force lightning scarred his face forever.

Provide an example. Fanficing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So emotional. He's been held prisoner before despite having force users. He's never done so.

"He crushed an AT-AT but that doesn't mean he can force crush something far less durable like a human!"

Keep digging son 👆

He's an old man. he survived a force push.

If he survived attacks from Yoda, then he's durable

He could be a scrawny 5 year old who hadn't had anything to eat for year for all I care, if he tanked that shit, he tanked that shit

Also why is being an old man supposed to matter? I mean, Whitebeard from One Piece is an "old man", yet he'd shitkick both characters here at the same time, kill every named character from both verses, stomp the **** out of Khan and solo the Harry Potter universe for the **** of it. In fiction such titles are just arbitary labels and nothing else

And the whole "he did this feat so he could obviously perform something much lesser if he wanted" line of thing applies across fiction or it doesn't full stop, you cannot have it both ways

Big deal. Winds kicked him effort and his saber came right out., his own force lightning scarred his face forever.

Windu being the greatest Jedi duelist in the entire order, yeah that's totally some kind of low end showing, not

And Palpatine's force lightning is simply that powerful

Nice attempt at downplaying though, you fail 👆

Provide an example. Fanficing.

Been there done that, crushing an AT-AT means he can force crush a human 👆

Moving on

Originally posted by StealthRanger
"He crushed an AT-AT but that doesn't mean he can force crush something far less durable like a human!"

Keep digging son 👆

If he survived attacks from Yoda, then he's durable

He could be a scrawny 5 year old who hadn't had anything to eat for year for all I care, if he tanked that shit, he tanked that shit

Also why is being an old man supposed to matter? I mean, Whitebeard from One Piece is an "old man", yet he'd shitkick both characters here at the same time, kill every named character from both verses, stomp the **** out of Khan and solo the Harry Potter universe for the **** of it. In fiction such titles are just arbitary labels and nothing else

And the whole "he did this feat so he could obviously perform something much lesser if he wanted" line of thing applies across fiction or it doesn't full stop, you cannot have it both ways

Windu being the greatest Jedi duelist in the entire order, yeah that's totally some kind of low end showing, not

And Palpatine's force lightning is simply that powerful

Nice attempt at downplaying though, you fail 👆

Been there done that, crushing an AT-AT means he can force crush a human 👆

Moving on

Then post him doing so.

It was just a force push. Obi and Anakin both survived force pushes. 😂

Palpatines body is shit and geriatric.

It was a regular kick nothing forced induced. 🙂

Luke walked away with no scarring and was hit for s much longer time period with it. Palpatine is weak.

That isn't an example of him insta crushing a human.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then post him doing so.

Been there done that. Crushing an AT-AT>>>>>

It was just a force push. Obi and Anakin both survived force pushes. 😂

Anakin and Obi-Wan are simply that durable as well

You can let go of the straw now, asspie 👆

Palpatines body is shit and geriatric.

Right, because moving so fast that ****ers like Anakin can't see shit is totally a sign of physical weakness

You're not even debating feats, you're just using titles and making retarded generalisations

It was a regular kick nothing forced induced. 🙂

It's clearly powerful if it can disarm Palpatine

Luke walked away with no scarring and was hit for s much longer time period with it. Palpatine is weak.

Palpatine was torturing Luke 👆

That isn't an example of him insta crushing a human.

You're right, it's an example of him doing much much better than crushing a human

GG 👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Been there done that. Crushing an AT-AT>>>>>

Anakin and Obi-Wan are simply that durable as well

You can let go of the straw now, asspie 👆

Right, because moving so fast that ****ers like Anakin can't see shit is totally a sign of physical weakness

You're not even debating feats, you're just using titles and making retarded generalisations

It's clearly powerful if it can disarm Palpatine

Palpatine was torturing Luke 👆

You're right, it's an example of him doing much much better than crushing a human

GG 👆

So ?? How long did the feat take ? Why do you ignore how tk functions in the Star Wars universe.

Force lightning ko'd Anakin easily. Obi was hurt many times and was physically tossed around by jango fett. 🙂

His body is still older. He can use force powers but attacking his body is attacking his body. Force powers don't alter his old putrid body just amp his movements at the time. Again that's how it works. Yoda wouldn't need a cane if his body was in tip top shape.

Palpatine was disarmed in both of his saber fights. It was just a well placed kick. Implying windu can kick through steel is ridiculous.

He said afterwards he will now die. He took the concentrated blasts for a decent amount of time and walked away with no damage.
😂

Why has he never force crushed a human then ? Are humans as slow as At At's ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hes never force crushed a humanoid. You can argue inanimate objects but you don't get to say since Vader force crushed the surroundings after hearing of Padmes death he insta crushed Palpatine.

It's ridiculous and fanfic.

Back to: "Vader can't crush flesh even though he has crushed metal!" + "Vader can only use the Force for exactly what we've seen, no exceptions, even if he's already done a logically greater feat!"

You're so awful at this. Maybe you should go back to focusing on your Nintendo Wii games or something, harmless guy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Back to: "Vader can't crush flesh even though he has crushed metal!" + "Vader can only use the Force for exactly what we've seen, no exceptions, even if he's already done a logically greater feat!"

You're so awful at this. Maybe you should go back to focusing on your Nintendo Wii games or something, harmless guy.

Has he ever done so ? Nah. So the only thing Vader supporters have is one feat applied to all debates but hey we aren't scripting because this thing he did one time he does every time now. Fanboy 101.

You don't realize how the force works. If it was easy to force insta kill bounty hunters I think we'd have seen one example but hey **** it the at at feat in every thread. **** examples. He did it once so he does it in the first millisecond.

Is it time to screen cap fanfic captions ??

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Has he ever done so ? Nah. So the only thing Vader supporters have is one feat applied to all debates but hey we aren't scripting because this thing he did one time he does every time now. Fanboy 101.

You don't realize how the force works. If it was easy to force insta kill bounty hunters I think we'd have seen one example but hey **** it the at at feat in every thread. **** examples. He did it once so he does it in the first millisecond.

Is it time to screen cap fanfic captions ??

😂

Greater feat > lesser feat. You know this, at least you should considering you spend the majority of your time in here.

Now you're scripting, good job 👆

Vader crushing metal in EP3 is canon, you silly Star Wars tourist. Did you not pay attention again?

Originally posted by Robtard
Greater feat > lesser feat. You know this, at least you should considering you spend the majority of your time in here.

Now you're scripting, good job 👆

Vader crushing metal in EP3 is canon, you silly Star Wars tourist. Did you not pay attention again?

Apples and oranges. Can at At's maneuver quickly ? How long did the feat take ?

No, I argue based off what the characters are likely to do not what I want them to do. Fanboy 101.

Want me to time that out ? Does his opponent stand there in awe while he blindly rages and cries out ? Let's time Caine shooting and Vader crushing those surroundings and see what's faster.

😂

Ready ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Apples and oranges. Can at At's maneuver quickly ? How long did the feat take ?

No, I argue based off what the characters are likely to do not what I want them to do. Fanboy 101.

Want me to time that out ? Does his opponent stand there in awe while he blindly rages and cries out ? Let's time Caine shooting and Vader crushing those surroundings and see what's faster.

😂

Ready ?

Good lord, you don't even now what I'm referencing from the film. Did I say "AT-AT"? No.

Nope, you're trying to script and doing the same tired: "Vader can only use the Force in the very specific ways we've seen!" It's a failed tactic and Imp already ruled that nonsense out when the MVF started. Greater feats > lesser feats.

Now you've dropped the "Vader can't use Force-crush on a body" and are arguing who's faster. 🙂 That at least is an honest approach. See, I can teach you 👆

Anyhow: Vader Force-pulls Caine's gun (EpV) and then Force-crushes Caine's gravity-boots around his feet (EpIII), Caine plummets to the ground; Vader executes him. Game. Set. Match.

Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, you don't even now what I'm referencing from the film. Did I say "AT-AT"? No.

Nope, you're trying to script and doing the same tired: "Vader can only use the Force in the very specific ways we've seen!" It's a failed tactic and Imp already ruled that nonsense out when the MVF started. Greater feats > lesser feats.

Now you've dropped the "Vader can't use Force-crush on a body" and are arguing who's faster. That at least is an honest approach. See, I can teach you 👆

Ok so you won't reference the at at because you don't know, good.

Well we argue based off the timing of the feats. We don't say he kills you in a millisecond if we've never seen him do so. 😂

So you want to ignore the timing of the feat you called into question. 😂

He wouldn't use it but I'm humoring you and timing out the probability of attacks and what is faster.

I'll also post tk feats from Yoda, Dooku, Anakin, etc. to see how long their tk feats take in the films. Greater objects or feats take a lot of focus and concentration and them standing still and not attacking. You do realize how these powers work, right ?

you edited. I'll respond to the force pull. Han Solo is not even in the same league as Caine. Their strength is entirely different and in the same feat you referenced even he was fast enough to fire a few shots at Vader.

😂