Which incarnation of Sidious can defeat Vitiate?

"minor influence" - ending probably the biggest war in Star Wars.

And, are you referring to Darth Revan or SOR Revan? Either way, nah.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan psychologically breaking thousands of his own Jedi and soldiers loyal to him, and then establishing a sect of mindless Sith Assassins > wanting to rid the galaxy of the Sith Empire who tortured him for 300 years.

Not even close, Revan's plan involved the genocide of pretty much every imperial citizen who wasn't a slave. It would literally be billions to trillions of dead. Fvcking over a few thousand (unlikely that many tbh, more like hundred) of his own troops doesn't remotely compare.

... to end a galactic threat that would kill far even more, and in time, destroy the galaxy (Revan knew Vitiate planned to destroy the galaxy - hence the Foundry plan to stop him). 👆

"Genocide is totally justifiable!" - DarthAnt66, 2015.

Also Revans plan would likely just help Vitiate's ritual, lol.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"minor influence" - ending probably the biggest war in Star Wars.

And, are you referring to Darth Revan or SOR Revan? Either way, nah.

Which didn't really affect Vitiate that much.

I was referring to Darth Revan.

Originally posted by Sinious
Which didn't really affect Vitiate that much.

I was referring to Darth Revan.

Yeah, no.

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Genocide is totally justifiable!" - DarthAnt66, 2015.

Vitiate's main goal was to annihilate the galaxy. Vitiate is still trying to that. Revan on the other hand wanted to save the republic and defeat the Emperor where Vitiate's TP made him the worst enemy of the republic. They're not comparable in anyway. 👆

You kinda just ignored the entire Mandalorian Wars there, bro.

I'm not siding with Revan here, but his loyalty to the Republic was established prior to him getting his memories back.

Revan was still fighting the enemies of the republic in Mando Wars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGyPRr9-AE.

For his personal gain - not the Republic's. 😐

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'll take genocide over absolute annihilation any day. 👆

Please. As we know, in no way did Revan need to go to such an extreme to stop Vitiate's ritual and his genocide would likely just help him carry it out. His plan was insane and monstrous like I said. It's completely unjustifiable, an incredibly deluded, illogical and extreme action that demonstrated how far he'd fallen. If Revan wanted to stop Vitiate he could have directly tried to stop him instead of murder billions of semi-innocent people. He didn't even tell the Republic about Vitiate's plan, let alone the Empire. He was completely nuts and deserved to die.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Please. As we know, in no way did Revan need to go to such an extreme to stop Vitiate's ritual and his genocide would likely just help him carry it out. His plan was insane and monstrous like I said. It's completely unjustifiable, an incredibly deluded, illogical and extreme action that demonstrated how far he'd fallen. If Revan wanted to stop Vitiate he could have directly tried to stop him instead of murder billions of semi-innocent people. He didn't even tell the Republic about Vitiate's plan, let alone the Empire. He was completely nuts and deserved to die.

I take it you don't think the USA's atomic bombs were justifiable either? 😬

How so? He had Republic troops and other Jedi with noble intentions on his side. And even if he were just pretending to care, I don't recall him having any intentions of utterly crushing the Republic.

Originally posted by Sinious
How so? He had Republic troops and other Jedi with noble intentions on his side. And even if he were just pretending to care, I don't recall him having any intentions of utterly crushing the Republic.

Just present a single source and I'll consider your argument as a possibility. Oh btw, Revan's own opinion is still more relevant than prior sourcers. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Waah-waah. I don't really care for your pacifism, nor does any incarnation of Revan. Move along.

I take it you don't think the USA's atomic bombs were justifiable either? 😬

Completely irrelevant. We KNOW that he didn't have to do this to stop Vitiate's ritual, it isn't even a question. It's an absurdly extreme solution to the Vitiate problem that he had every opportunity to not fall back on. Stopping a war by murdering literally every single living person on one side of it isn't a sane or justifiable plan. If America had decided to nuke the entirety of Japan they'd rightly be seen as bigger monsters than the Nazi's.

@Sinious: KotOR 2 and the Chronicles should do the trick. 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
Completely irrelevant. We KNOW that he didn't have to do this to stop Vitiate's ritual, it isn't even a question. It's an absurdly extreme solution to the Vitiate problem that he had every opportunity to not fall back on. Stopping a war by murdering literally every single living person on one side of it isn't a sane or justifiable plan.

Nothing then? Nothing that says Revan was already planning on utterly crushing the Republic before he encountered Vitiate?