Originally posted by carthageThat was Decieved Malgus I believe, Hope Malgus required significant exertion to kill with his lightning.
Bypassing the force defenses of a Jedi that can collapse buildings onto him with lightning is quite different than just being shot. But ok. He's also killed three Jedi on contact with his lightning as well
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Heh heh, this Savage wank pleases me.Said Jedi actually managed to withstand his lightining for a time:And tbh, Malgus was amped on pain and rage at this point.He struggled even to put Jace down, and the guy didn't die.
I'm just going to keep saying this until the entire internet remembers: Malcolms armor was insulated. Malgus didn't become 8x as powerful by getting pissed off. He's a Sith, I'm pretty sure he's amped on rage nigh constantly.
Originally posted by ILS
It's balls are amazing enough for it to be exempt of a comparison to Malgus' lightning. And honestly I don't think the number of hands you use contributes much in terms of potency; seems a little bit artificial when what really matters is how much of yourself you put into it. With that said, Dooku killing multiple Kiffar and multiple Nightbrothers (who all have above-human durability) with his lightning is enough to suggest that it's substantially beyond Hope Malgus', which has killed one Jedi with difficulty.
One Jedi has significantly better defense than Kiffar and Nightbrothers. As in, any defense at all. Malgus' lightning was able to burn through his torso even through his lightsaber defense, which is on a level Dooku never reached.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Heh heh, this Savage wank pleases me.Said Jedi actually managed to withstand his lightining for a time:And tbh, Malgus was amped on pain and rage at this point.He struggled even to put Jace down, and the guy didn't die.
I'm still finding this ridiculously stupid, it shouldn't matter if Jace's armor helped his head wasn't armored so his brain should have been fried, especially if Malgus' Lighting can tear through Jedi and their defenses.
So I guess TOR armor > TOR Jedi....right..
Swtor Encyclopedia. There are sections for the gear of the various classes. The section for a trooper has an example of Havoc Squad armor that's just Malcolm's armor from the trailer. It has an insulated bodyglove designed to withstand extreme temperatures and electricity.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I'm still finding this ridiculously stupid, it shouldn't matter if Jace's armor helped his head wasn't armored so his brain should have been fried, especially if Malgus' Lighting can tear through Jedi and their defenses.So I guess TOR armor > TOR Jedi....right..
Watch the gif. Malcolm never gets hit in the head by the lightning. 😉
Originally posted by Nephthys
Swtor Encyclopedia. There are sections for the gear of the various classes. The section for a trooper has an example of Havoc Squad armor that's just Malcolm's armor from the trailer. It has an insulated bodyglove designed to withstand extreme temperatures and electricity.Watch the gif. Malcolm never gets hit in the head by the lightning. 😉
Obviously, but still it was a stupid thing as to why the Lighting wasn't hitting his head and honestly even that Jace should have had his entire body wrecked and unable to move after all that. He held a knife, ya know metal in his hand which should have conducted very nicely with his hand and sent the Lighting charge even further.
If I accept this, then I gotta say Malgus had some weak ass Lighting at that time....but I can't because how can this same Lighting later tear through Jedi who are wearing armor at this time right, but it can't take out Jace?..
Originally posted by Nephthys
He held the grip of a knife which was likely plastic, in his gauntleted hand. If he's insulated with a full bodyglove thats able to withstand extreme heat then lightning isn't doing much to him, so nah he wouldn't be wrecked.Havoc Squad has the best armor.
So I guess a group of guys with insulated bodygloves designed against heat/electrical attacks which are rather abundent, can tank Malgus' Lighting at this point?...Ok.
Originally posted by carthage
Bypassing the force defenses of a Jedi that can collapse buildings onto him with lightning is quite different than just being shot. But ok. He's also killed three Jedi on contact with his lightning as well
Blaster bolts bypass force defenses regularly, hence so many jedi dying to them. Even Dooku didn't take a chance with them. Those jedi aren't tanking multiple blaster bolts the way Savage has. Dooku has bypassed the force defense of Ventress plus two other nightsister simultaneously while heavily drugged and blind, knocked Bulq unconscious with a single short blast, without trying to kill him, and has done the same to Anakin in just a few seconds. Despite all that, Savage has tanked multiple attacks from Dooku, until he got pissed and nearly choked out both Dooku and Ventress at the same time.
Sinious, blitzing fodder sith troops isn't anymore impressive than blitzing magnaguards which possess insane reaction speed. Ventress has defeated a jedi who has done the latter, yet she was beaten by Savage. Plo Koon, who fought equally with Ventress, despite an injured arm, was also beaten by Savage. Obi Wan, too, has been bested by Savage.
Savage and Malgus are similar fighters. Both rely more on strength to overcome speed advantages from faster opponents, except Savage has overpowered far stronger opponents. At this point, Savage has the force advantage other than lightning, an attack that will result in Malgus's quick demise if he uses it on Savage.
Well lightning is a pretty one-trick-pony. It's super hot and electric, if you can nullify those factors theres not much you can do except go REALLY crazy lightning.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Blaster bolts bypass force defenses regularly, hence so many jedi dying to them. Even Dooku didn't take a chance with them. Those jedi aren't tanking multiple blaster bolts the way Savage has. Dooku has bypassed the force defense of Ventress plus two other nightsister simultaneously while heavily drugged and blind, knocked Bulq unconscious with a single short blast, without trying to kill him, and has done the same to Anakin in just a few seconds. Despite all that, Savage has tanked multiple attacks from Dooku, until he got pissed and nearly choked out both Dooku and Ventress at the same time.
Malgus pwned him through his lightsaber defense not just a force barrier.
I guess, sure. Alright fine, I accept that Jace tanked the Lighting even though imo his head should have been fried...although seeing Beni post the quote how a Jedi was resisting it and moving, I guess it's not as stupid now, clearly Malgus' Lighting wasn't all that great yet. Even still, that's gotta be some weak ass Lighting if it can't even stop a regular human from moving.
Even a probe droid has more electrical output than that.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Obviously, but still it was a stupid thing as to why the Lighting wasn't hitting his head and honestly even that Jace should have had his entire body wrecked and unable to move after all that. He held a knife, ya know metal in his hand which should have conducted very nicely with his hand and sent the Lighting charge even further.If I accept this, then I gotta say Malgus had some weak ass Lighting at that time....but I can't because how can this same Lighting later tear through Jedi who are wearing armor at this time right, but it can't take out Jace?..
Around here we only accept Dooku's weak showings of lightning for vs threads, despite him never having any. Unless you consider not outright killing a power house like Ventress with it a weak showing?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well lightning is a pretty one-trick-pony. It's super hot and electric, if you can nullify those factors theres not much you can do except go REALLY crazy lightning.Malgus pwned him through his lightsaber defense not just a force barrier.
Once a saber is down, it's irrelevant. Period.
EDIT: Unless you're trying to make a case for overpowering saber defenses, which Dooku has done better.
Originally posted by NephthysSavage' armor was crafted from Nightsister magicks... > Malcolm's armor.
I'm just going to keep saying this until the entire internet remembers: Malcolms armor was insulated. Malgus didn't become 8x as powerful by getting pissed off. He's a Sith, I'm pretty sure he's amped on rage nigh constantly.
One would also imagine its ability to absorb blaster bolts is because it is heat resistant.
Meh, perhaps. He still isn't in league with Savage. This assuming Savage doesn't block it with his saber.
One Jedi has significantly better defense than Kiffar and Nightbrothers. As in, any defense at all. Malgus' lightning was able to burn through his torso even through his lightsaber defense, which is on a level Dooku never reached.Your not accounting for the number of targets Dooku killed, concentrate that to one target and the intensity is magnified tenfold.
Originally posted by ZenwolfThat was several years on, people improve.
I'm still finding this ridiculously stupid, it shouldn't matter if Jace's armor helped his head wasn't armored so his brain should have been fried, especially if Malgus' Lighting can tear through Jedi and their defenses.So I guess TOR armor > TOR Jedi....right..