Originally posted by Nephthys
Even I do think that. I don't give a shit about him killing some defenseless people (not that they were confirmed dead tbh) and I don't count visions. That Dooku can kill some mooks is laughably mediocre, any random Sith Lord should be capable of that.
And yet you've used the Wrath's vision of Vitiate's mega ritual in an argument before...
Originally posted by ares834
And yet you've used the Wrath's vision of Vitiate's mega ritual in an argument before...
That was a vision of the future directly from the Force, not an imaginary fake dreamland Sidious invented.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He recovered quickly from Dooku's, so I doubt he'd just stare as Malgus closes in on him.
Why would Malgus not just constantly zap him as he kills him? He could also do a saber throw if he really needs to save time.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Bulq had awful barriers just like those jedi Malgus overpowered with lightning. Dooku's >> Malgus bro. Anakin and Ventress >> those poor barrier jedi.
Nice evasion of the point that neither of them were as powerful as the Zabrak whose defenses Malgus tore through with lightning 👆.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He recovered quickly from Dooku's, so I doubt he'd just stare as Malgus closes in on him.
Because Dooku's lightning is substandard for a Sith lord?
Originally posted by Nephthys
That was a vision of the future directly from the Force, not an imaginary fake dreamland Sidious invented.Why would Malgus not just constantly zap him as he kills him? He could also do a saber throw if he really needs to save time.
And why would Savage not just use the force on him? He's capable of using the force mid attack.
Cart, what point? You asserted Bulq's barriers were weak on account of being overpowered by Dooku and Windu both of whom are more powerful than Malgus, especially at this point, so I used that argument against you on those jedi that were overpowered by Malgus.
Originally posted by Nephthys
How was it fake, lol? Potential future's are a thing, you know. It's not like he just ****ing randomly tripped balls for a few seconds, it was a legit vision that's not comparable to Sidious' fake mental attack.
How was it fake? I dunno, probably the fact that that the GFFA is still around. We don't have any clue to the validity of the vision. Heck, Sidious's mental attack was more accurate considering Anakin kills Dooku in the same method.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
And why would Savage no just use the force on him? He's capable of using the force mid attack.
Uh, because he's getting lit up like a christmas tree? He did nothing but shit himself when Dooku zapped him, he didn't attack him until he had a moment to himself. I know you really want him to win or something but this is pretty clear cut, we literally have the video of how Savage would react and it took him 10 seconds to even stand up again after Dooku's first attack. Literally every time he goes down and stays down to catch his breath.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Uh, because he's getting lit up like a christmas tree? He did nothing but shit himself when Dooku zapped him, he didn't attack him until he had a moment to himself. I know you really want him to win or something but this is pretty clear cut, we literally have the video of how Savage would react and it took him 10 seconds to even stand up again after Dooku's first attack.
You mean how he didn't lift heavy obelisks mid attack, or the time Dooku was blasting him away and he got right back up? Either way he never just sat their waiting to be attacked, and Dooku's lightning is superior to Malgus's.
Originally posted by ares834
How was it fake? I dunno, probably the fact that that the GFFA is still around. We don't have any clue to the validity of the vision. Heck, Sidious's mental attack was more accurate considering Anakin kills Dooku in the same method.
That doesn't make it "fake", it means that that potential future was averted which was basically the obvious reason he had the vision in the first place. It's obviously a real vision, theres nothing fake about it. It's not like the Force lied, lol.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You mean how he didn't lift heavy obelisks mid attack, or the time Dooku was blasting him away and he got right back up? Either way he never just sat their waiting to be attacked, and Dooku's lightning is superior to Malgus's.
You really need to rewatch that fight bro. He did just sit there waiting to be attacked. Not once did he "get right back up."
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
And why would Savage not just use the force on him? He's capable of using the force mid attack.Cart, what point? You asserted Bulq's barriers were weak on account of being overpowered by Dooku and Windu both of whom are more powerful than Malgus, especially at this point, so I used that argument against you on those jedi that were overpowered by Malgus.
What? Windu has never been more powerful than any iteration of Malgus after Return, like at all. And no Bulq has no feats comparable to the Zabrak Jedi whom Malgus shredded with lightning, especially given has lack of showings in the force for Bulq, Kiffars which aren't even force sensitive, and droids. You brought up three not even remotely comparable showings and even called Bulq a powerful force user (when he hasn't even displayed any feats remotely comparable to Malgus or that Zabrak):
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Obi Wan and Kiplee struggled to contain a one handed lightning attack from Dooku. Dooku's also laid waist to a group of zabraks, and can instantly KO powerful force users such as Bulq with a single short blasts. He's also KO'd Anakin after a few seconds worth of lightning.
Yeah, Dooku's lightning which can kill droids/ random nightbrothers >>> Malgus's which can burn holes through Jedi, char Aryn Leneer/send her flying, and kill 3 Jedi at once. 👆
Originally posted by Nephthys
That doesn't make it "fake", it means that that potential future was averted which was basically the obvious reason he had the vision in the first place. It's obviously a real vision, theres nothing fake about it. It's not like the Force lied, lol.You really need to rewatch that fight bro. He did just sit there waiting to be attacked. Not once did he "get right back up."
Yeah, but Dooku's lightning is more powerful, and it was used to blast Savage back. At no point did Savage sit and wait for Dooku to close in on him as Dooku was handling Ventress. The lightning was breaking him, hence his conversation with Ventress about Dooku being to powerful while he was on his knees, as opposed to shouting in pain like he was.
He's grown more powerful since then anyways, and according to the databank, the moments he choked Dooku and Ventress, was the moment he found his power, indicating that was the moment he realized how effective his anger and rage can be, thus he wouldn't need as much punishment to use it in his prime. This version of Malgus best bet is to not use lightning.
Originally posted by carthage
What? Windu has never been more powerful than any iteration of Malgus after Return, like at all. And no Bulq has no feats comparable to the Zabrak Jedi whom Malgus shredded with lightning, especially given has lack of showings in the force for Bulq, Kiffars which aren't even force sensitive, and droids. You brought up three not even remotely comparable showings and even called Bulq a powerful force user (when he hasn't even displayed any feats remotely comparable to Malgus or that Zabrak):Yeah, Dooku's lightning which can kill droids/ random nightbrothers >>> Malgus's which can burn holes through Jedi, char Aryn Leneer/send her flying, and kill 3 Jedi at once. 👆
No, Dooku can kill jedi in the prime of it's order and KO some of the most powerful force users in history such as Anakin.
Why are you getting so desperate that you're using maxed out rage Malgus? Regardless, Aryn was caught by rage Malgus as she was flying at him; not exactly the best position to ground yourself for a saber defense. Before that, she gave him a fight. Ventress is fodder for Dooku. Ventress > Aryn.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
No, Dooku can kill jedi in the prime of it's order and KO some of the most powerful force users in history such as Anakin.Why are you getting so desperate that you're using maxed out rage Malgus? Regardless, Aryn was caught by rage Malgus as she was flying at him; not exactly the best position to ground yourself for a saber defense. Before that, she gave him a fight. Ventress is fodder for Dooku. Ventress > Aryn.
Tiplee and Bulq are hardly examples of prime force users, lol- and koing AOTC Anakin while he's running and not doing any damage isn't more impressive than Malgus's feats. You even claimed Bulq was a powerful force user, without actually being able to show a feat Bulq performed that surpasses collapsing an entire building. So what if Malgus was "maxed out on rage", he's a Sith so he utilizes rage for his power? How is that at all relevant to the fact that he can blast through more powerful Jedi than Tiplee (who is featless in the force) and Bulq who can't even do anything more than basic force pushes?
As Aryn prepared to leap at Malgus, he held forth a hand, almost casually, and lightning sizzled through the space between them. Aryn interposed her lightsabers, but the power in the lightning exceeded anything she had felt from Malgus before. It blasted through her defenses and both lightsabers flew from her hands. The lightning seized her, lifted her up, and threw her from the top of the shuttle.
She was prepared to leap at him, and he blasted her before she lunged not during the actual leap. And Aryn has superior force feats to Ventress (blasting away rubble from Malgus's leap/hurling a 6 car tram with a gesture) surpass any TK showings by Ventress. Ventress was only ragdolled by her when he was amped by Vjun and she was unprepared