Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Yeah, but Dooku's lightning is more powerful, and it was used to blast Savage back. At no point did Savage sit and wait for Dooku to close in on him as Dooku was handling Ventress. The lightning was breaking him, hence his conversation with Ventress about Dooku being to powerful while he was on his knees, as opposed to shouting in pain like he was.He's grown more powerful since then anyways, and according to the databank, the moments he choked Dooku and Ventress, was the moment he found his power, indicating that was the moment he realized how effective his anger and rage can be, thus he wouldn't need as much punishment to use it in his prime. This version of Malgus best bet is to not use lightning.
Not even going to bother with the power argument, it doesn't really matter. It was used to take Savage out of the fight and it did for considerable lengths of time even without Dooku constantly applying it or paying him any attention. If Malgus constantly zaps him it would be easy for him to have the entire 1 second that it would take him to kill Savage while he's defenseless. The only reason Savage didn't wait for Dooku to close in on him was because Dooku never tried. He was extremely debilitated every time and needed to recover, if Dooku had tried to gut him he'd have been ****ed. He'd have the exact same reaction to Malgus.
I don't see how any of that matters to his reaction to lightning. He'd still get hurt for long enough that Malgus can kill him, it seriously wouldn't take that long. Savage would need to instantly recover while getting electrocuted to survive and that's idiotic to even consider.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Even worse, though I don't recall.Dooku knocked Ventress flat on her buttocks with a short burst, nearly overwhelming her right before he relented.
No, better for her. She was equal to Malgus more or less until his upgrade.
Lol, yeah while she was standing up and unsteady. Great job. 👆
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Even worse, though I don't recall.Dooku knocked Ventress flat on her buttocks with a short burst, nearly overwhelming her right before he relented.
All of the examples you listed were for him only incapacitating them without causing any damage? He couldn't even char/burn holes through/ or kill multiple force sensitives ike Malgus could. Are you gonna concede or am I gonna have to spank you?
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, better for her. She was equal to Malgus more or less until his upgrade.Lol, yeah while she was standing up and unsteady. Great job. 👆
No, worse for him considering his power boost.
IDK about you but I would rather be on my feet to appropriately mount a defense for an attack, not fly into it, making the impact that much more stronger.
Originally posted by carthage
All of the examples you listed were for him only incapacitating them without causing any damage? He couldn't even char/burn holes through/ or kill multiple force sensitives ike Malgus could. Are you gonna concede or am I gonna have to spank you?
But they are far more powerful, and the fact that he can KO them, without intending to kill, would suggest he could do far more than char them with a serious attack.
Let's do this bare knuckle, so you'll stop challenging me. Anything goes.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Even I do think that. I don't give a shit about him killing some defenseless people (not that they were confirmed dead tbh) and I don't count visions. That Dooku can kill some mooks is laughably mediocre, any random Sith Lord should be capable of that.
Lol confirmed dead? Why would Dooku leave them alive?
Feats for Dooku's lightning:
KOing AOTCs Anakin with a casual blast
Casually knocking Sora Bulq, one of the greatest saber masters in history unconscious with a casual blast.
Killing Kiffar (Force Sensitives)
Killing Night Brothers (powerful force sensitives)
Pushing back two Jedi Masters with a casual one handed blast
Making Darth Maul scream in pain even when he wasn't trying to kill him
That trumps:
*barely managing to incapacitate 1 trooper
*barely manage to overwhelm some random Jedi's defenses.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol confirmed dead? Why would Dooku leave them alive?Feats for Dooku's lightning:
KOing AOTCs Anakin with a casual blast
Casually knocking Sora Bulq, one of the greatest saber masters in history unconscious with a casual blast.
Killing Kiffar (Force Sensitives)
Killing Night Brothers (powerful force sensitives)
Pushing back two Jedi Masters with a casual one handed blast
Making Darth Maul scream in pain even when he wasn't trying to kill himThat trumps:
*barely managing to incapacitate 1 trooper
*barely manage to overwhelm some random Jedi's defenses.
Ant thinks because Rex's leg was seen settling after the attack, means he was alive. He thinks he's on to something.
Neph considers vague possible futures, but not realistic depictions made to fool another force user.
The magnitude of stupidity and ignorance demonstrated in this thread have reached astounding proportions.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
He also obliterated Rex & co. if you count visions.
Even if so, their body armor would be lacking.
Here is information about body armor of Havoc Squad:
Republic-issue combat armor is produced in a wide variety of styles to suit various mission profiles. Hardened duraplast forms the main protective element of most armor, either integrated into lightweight vests or molded into overlapping plates and worn over an insulated body glove for maximum coverage. When even more protection is called for, the duraplast may be supplemented or even replaced with plating composed of durasteel, cortosis, or other exotic materials.
Standard armors are resistant to small-arms fire and shrapnel, while heavier varieties are reported to have even survived repeated strikes from lightsabers and vehicle-mounted canons. Republic army recruitment centers sometimes display exceptional chesplates that have withstood direct missile impacts, hoping to inspire confidence in potential recruits.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Also;
As the most elite soldiers in the Republic, the troopers of Havoc Squad are trained to take down any threat: including Sith.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Originally posted by ILS
It's balls are amazing enough for it to be exempt of a comparison to Malgus' lightning. And honestly I don't think the number of hands you use contributes much in terms of potency; seems a little bit artificial when what really matters is how much of yourself you put into it. With that said, Dooku killing multiple Kiffar and multiple Nightbrothers (who all have above-human durability) with his lightning is enough to suggest that it's substantially beyond Hope Malgus', which has killed one Jedi with difficulty.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Obi Wan and Kiplee struggled to contain a one handed lightning attack from Dooku.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Dooku's also laid waist to a group of zabraks, and can instantly KO powerful force users such as Bulq with a single short blasts.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He's also KO'd Anakin after a few seconds worth of lightning. Ventress was also floored despite catching a lightning assault from Dooku with her saber, nearly being overwhelmed by the attack right before Dooku relented to make his exit.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Malgus's lightning isn't doing shit to Savage other than get him pissed, which will result in Malgus perhaps being throttled to death.Basically everything ILS and Beniboy said.
Read this again:
At 10 meters, Malgus extended his free hand and loosed veins of blue Force lightning. They struck the charging Jedi: swept through his defenses, swirled around him, and began to burn flesh.
Shouting with pain, the Jedi leaned forward into the lightning - teeth bare, blue blades held before him - and staggered toward Malgus. Despite his burns, he came onward. One step, another, another, but he was failing, wilting in the heat of the lightning. Malgus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, screaming. The lightning spiraled around the Zabrak, blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.
Malgus ended his attack. The Jedi, ruined, fell to the ground and rolled over onto his back.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Third Lesson
And this was no ordinary Jedi:
The Jedi held his ground. At twenty meters, the Jedi raised his lightsabers aloft to either side and drew them both down with a flourish.
Too late the rumble of the falling buildings penetrated the haze of Malgus's anger. An avalanche of duracrete and transparisteel crashed down on him from either side of the street...
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Third Lesson
Now show me an example of Count Dooku wrecking a Jedi that powerful with Force Lightning.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
That was Decieved Malgus I believe, Hope Malgus required significant exertion to kill with his lightning.
Check the information cited above.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Savage' armor was crafted from Nightsister magicks... > Malcolm's armor.
Let me know when Savage Opress tanks missiles and lightsaber stabs. Havoc Squad Body Armor is capable of withstanding such firepower.
Check the information cited above.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
One would also imagine its ability to absorb blaster bolts is because it is heat resistant.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Meh, perhaps. He still isn't in league with Savage. This assuming Savage doesn't block it with his saber.
Your not accounting for the number of targets Dooku killed, concentrate that to one target and the intensity is magnified tenfold. That was several years on, people improve.
Force Lightning is a deadly power. And Darth Malgus is proficient in its use.
Check the information cited above.
Originally posted by carthage
It smashed through his force barrier which is >> killing Kiffar warriors with no force defense to speak of and droids lol. Savage probably wouldn't have any issues blocking it though.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Neph come on, even you can't think Hope Malgus' lightning is on a par with Dooku's. Dooku's has killed swaths of force sensitives and if we count that vision feat he also instantly demolishes a *squad of armored soldiers.
Big deal? Malgus is among the greatest warriors of the mythos. He can match Dooku's feats easily. In-fact, Darth Sidious acknowledged Malgus's superiority over Count Dooku and Darth Vader.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Sinious, what I'm trying to say is that Savage tanking blaster bolts and Dooku's lightning so consistently, conveys the writers intent perfectly: Savage is just that durable. We've seen blaster bolts burn holes right through jedi all throughout canon, and we've seen Dooku's lightning render powerful force users unconscious, without trying to kill them. With that being the case, there's no reason to assume Malgus lightning would do any more damage to Savage than what he's been shown to consistently handle. Malgus's lightning burning holes isn't going to harm Savage more than blaster bolts which have the power to do the same. It doesn't matter if it's lightning or not when the result is the same. However, if you want to get that strict, well, again Savage has shown to tank several blasts of Dooku's lightning, and while Dooku's never shown to burn holes through jedi, he has taken out more powerful jedi with it, without trying to kill them, similar to Vitiate taking out a powerful strike team, without intending to kill them. The best way to compare Malgus's lightning to Dooku's would be to judge it by their opponents, their intents, and similar situations; basically the same way you would do if it were Vitiate. Dooku's comes off as superior to Malgus's.Regardless, we know Savage can tank powerful lightning, and attacks that cause similar damage to that of Malgus's lightning. All it does is trigger his anger, which won't go well for Malgus.
I understand what you mean. So my question is, do you think Lord Scourge could also tank a lightning of this caliber?
I have no doubt that Count Dooku's lightning is superior to Hope Malgus' lightning. But again, Dooku managed to put him on his knees with short bursts of lightnings that were sent while he was dueling Ventress. I don't think I'm reaching when I say Dooku wasn't even focused on Savage and took him out with a casual manner. Malgus is not near Dooku at this point but he won't have to duel with Ventress here and can just unleash all his lightning on Savage. I also agree that even this won't be enough to finish Savage but it will definitely harm him. It is an advantage for Malgus, not Savage. Perhaps a random sith lord's lightning could backfire but not someone on Malgus' level.
Btw, the way you mention Vitiate and hint I have bias for him is really uncool.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He was also kicked there by Adi before Kenobi, and before you question her strength, she went toe to toe with Grievous. And again, Malgus style of fighting is similar to Savage's. He hacks away at his opponents defenses, especially the faster ones; in Savage's case, Kenobi is the faster and more agile opponent, such advantage that Malgus doesn't have against Savage. Ventress couldn't do it to Savage, Plo couldn't, Kenobi (on about three other occasions) couldn't, Plo couldn't, etc, so why should I assume Malgus would? There would definitely be no reason for Savage to be in that same exact stance pressing down on Malgus from the side as he was with Obi Wan, unless Savage is overpowering Malgus with strength or if someone else is on the other side.I'm not going to get into that, but your doubts aren't proof. You already stated that you believe Savage would win, so why bring up the fight with Maul?
Plo Koon is possibly the 5th strongest jedi of PT so I was really surprised to see him lose to Savage even with the aid of a couple of clones. It's one of the reasons I'm okay with giving this to Savage.
I think Savage is more dangerous when he is pressing forward and not defending. Malgus has the strength, skill and speed to counter Savage's attacks and if he can manage to push back, I think he could defeat him in a duel. During Hope, he was around 35 years old. This isn't a young, rookie Malgus. He was already very experienced and had years of training.
I was siding Malgus at first but after some thought, I've come to realize that Savage has a good chance at winning this as well. I'm okay with both sides winning tbh. But why not get into that? I mean, Maul literally took him out after 2 strikes. He couldnt have done that to Hope Satele, let alone Hope Malgus.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol confirmed dead? Why would Dooku leave them alive?Feats for Dooku's lightning:
KOing AOTCs Anakin with a casual blast
Casually knocking Sora Bulq, one of the greatest saber masters in history unconscious with a casual blast.
Killing Kiffar (Force Sensitives)
Killing Night Brothers (powerful force sensitives)
Pushing back two Jedi Masters with a casual one handed blast
Making Darth Maul scream in pain even when he wasn't trying to kill himThat trumps:
*barely managing to incapacitate 1 trooper
*barely manage to overwhelm some random Jedi's defenses.
Uh, the point is about whether or not Dooku can kill people with lightning, not whether he wants to. He's not "leaving them alive" if he can only manage to zap them unconscious instead of kill them.
And lawl, none of that compares to Malgus' feats. Anakin and Bulq were never shown attempting to block the lightning so it likely just went under their guards. And neither had Force feats as good as that Zabrak's. By contrast Malgus overpowered the defenses of an incredibly powerful Jedi and his lightning was still powerful enough to burn holes in the guys body through his lightsaber defense. Dooku has never accomplished anything but make people smoke a little bit, his lightning has demonstrably less power. Malgus' lightning was more damaging even while being significantly blunted by the lightsabers.
Originally posted by Sinious
I understand what you mean. So my question is, do you think Lord Scourge could also tank a lightning of this caliber?I have no doubt that Count Dooku's lightning is superior to Hope Malgus' lightning. But again, Dooku managed to put him on his knees with short bursts of lightnings that were sent while he was dueling Ventress. I don't think I'm reaching when I say Dooku wasn't even focused on Savage and took him out with a casual manner. Malgus is not near Dooku at this point but he won't have to duel with Ventress here and can just unleash all his lightning on Savage. I also agree that even this won't be enough to finish Savage but it will definitely harm him. It is an advantage for Malgus, not Savage. Perhaps a random sith lord's lightning could backfire but not someone on Malgus' level.
Btw, the way you mention Vitiate and hint I have bias for him is really uncool.
Plo Koon is possibly the 5th strongest jedi of PT so I was really surprised to see him lose to Savage even with the aid of a couple of clones. It's one of the reasons I'm okay with giving this to Savage.
I think Savage is more dangerous when he is pressing forward and not defending. Malgus has the strength, skill and speed to counter Savage's attacks and if he can manage to push back, I think he could defeat him in a duel. During Hope, he was around 35 years old. This isn't a young, rookie Malgus. He was already very experienced and had years of training.
I was siding Malgus at first but after some thought, I've come to realize that Savage has a good chance at winning this as well. I'm okay with both sides winning tbh. But why not get into that? I mean, Maul literally took him out after 2 strikes. He couldnt have done that to Hope Satele, let alone Hope Malgus.
I was speaking on how Vitiate's lightning is compared to other's in general. That rule doesn't just apply to him. Off a nexus, Vitiate's best lightning feat was downing a group of jedi, with only two the them managing to use their sabers appropriately before being overpowered by about 20 seconds worth of spam and then another charged attack. On paper, Malgus has him beat solidly, but instead we acknowledge Vitiate's opponents and intent. Ok, well Dooku has KO'd Anakin in a few seconds, without intending to kill him, and with a single short blast, he KO'd Bulq outright. If we consider the intent and ease, it's illogical to assume that is all he is capable of, especially in the latter case. Anakin, by far, is more powerful than those jedi. Not to mention how even Obi Wan and Kiplee were being pressed back by a one handed attack from Dooku despite having appropriate saber defenses mounted, not half assed ones.
Why are you feeling attacked? It was an example on how lightning effects can vary depending on the opponents, intent, and situation.
Savage was a warrior far before his training under Dooku and Maul. While he's not master duelist level in terms of skill, he is skilled enough to hang with masters, as been shown, with his physical strength a raw power providing him an edge in most of his duels. As Dooku said, he had a natural ability as a mere night brother, and has shown to down a jedi knight (master?) and his padawan within seconds, before his sith training. Dooku and Maul honed his ability to such an extent that Savage was contending with, and, in most cases, besting saber masters. His power showings include: lifting heavy obelisks (while being attacked by lightning), pushing a shuttle a far distance and over a cliff, shattering blaster bolt resistant mandalorian jail cells, throwing a mandalorian death watch with enough for that his gear/equipment exploded on impact, shattering massive doors, and throwing around jedi masters. When using his anger more effectively (and it should be noted, he's quick to anger), he's destroyed shielded droids plus hurled Anakin and Kenobi with one massive force wave, and has done the same to Maul and another jedi. In maxed out rage, he's force choked Dooku and Ventress simultaneously, the incident being noted as the time Savage discovered his power, suggesting his use of rage. This is Savage at his peak against Malgus who isn't even close to his. Savage is taking this without a doubt.
Lightning, unlike blaster bolts, spread throughout the body. Savage has tanked several blasts and energy based attacks that can burn holes as Malgus's lightning has shown to do, why should we assume Malgus's lightning will harm Savage any more? You're basing your conclusion on the damage of Malgus's lightning, which is damage Savage has shown to easily tank. Can Scourge tank energy attacks that travel throughout the body instead of just his armor? I've proven Savage can handle both.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I was speaking on how Vitiate's lightning is compared to other's in general. That rule doesn't just apply to him. Off a nexus, Vitiate's best lightning feat was downing a group of jedi, with only two the them managing to use their sabers appropriately before being overpowered by about 20 seconds worth of spam and then another charged attack. On paper, Malgus has him beat solidly, but instead we acknowledge Vitiate's opponents and intent. Ok, well Dooku has KO'd Anakin in a few seconds, without intending to kill him, and with a single short blast, he KO'd Bulq outright. If we consider the intent and ease, it's illogical to assume that is all he is capable of, especially in the latter case. Anakin, by far, is more powerful than those jedi. Not to mention how even Obi Wan and Kiplee were being pressed back by a one handed attack from Dooku despite having appropriate saber defenses mounted, not half assed ones.Why are you feeling attacked? It was an example on how lightning effects can vary depending on the opponents, intent, and situation.
Got it. I misread your intention.
Savage was a warrior far before his training under Dooku and Maul. While he's not master duelist level in terms of skill, he is skilled enough to hang with masters, as been shown, with his physical strength a raw power providing him an edge in most of his duels. As Dooku said, he had a natural ability as a mere night brother, and has shown to down a jedi knight (master?) and his padawan within seconds, before his sith training. Dooku and Maul honed his ability to such an extent that Savage was contending with, and, in most cases, besting saber masters. His power showings include: lifting heavy obelisks (while being attacked by lightning), pushing a shuttle a far distance and over a cliff, shattering blaster bolt resistant mandalorian jail cells, throwing a mandalorian death watch with enough for that his gear/equipment exploded on impact, shattering massive doors, and throwing around jedi masters. When using his anger more effectively (and it should be noted, he's quick to anger), he's destroyed shielded droids plus hurled Anakin and Kenobi with one massive force wave, and has done the same to Maul and another jedi. In maxed out rage, he's force choked Dooku and Ventress simultaneously, the incident being noted as the time Savage discovered his power, suggesting his use of rage. This is Savage at his peak against Malgus who isn't even close to his. Savage is taking this without a doubt.
Indeed, he has defeated one of the best of the Jedi and I actually read the comic book where he defeated Koon recently and it was surprising to see him pull it off. Even though Malgus is more skilled, Savage has proven himself against very skilled opponents but mostly due to superior strength. However, since Malgus is a beast himself, I doubt Savage will gain much with his sheer strength here. I think that's one of the other reasons why he lost to Maul so easily. When someone can match his strength, he finds himself in a tough spot.
Since Malgus will push him to his limits, Savage will most likely abuse TK in anger and that might give him a huge advantage. Just out of curiosity, do you think Savage could defat Hope Malgus in a pure force fight?
Lightning, unlike blaster bolts, spread throughout the body. Savage has tanked several blasts and energy based attacks that can burn holes as Malgus's lightning has shown to do, why should we assume Malgus's lightning will harm Savage any more? You're basing your conclusion on the damage of Malgus's lightning, which is damage Savage has shown to easily tank. Can Scourge tank energy attacks that travel throughout the body instead of just his armor? I've proven Savage can handle both.
And Savage survived lightning yes, but it did get him down to his knees and leave him unguarded. If he reacts the same way against Malgus, he will get killed. So can he defend against it without finding himself in a disadvantageous position?(I ask this while assuming/hoping that you don't take the cut content of Sidious vs the Brothers fight seriously)
Originally posted by Sinious
Got it. I misread your intention.Indeed, he has defeated one of the best of the Jedi and I actually read the comic book where he defeated Koon recently and it was surprising to see him pull it off. Even though Malgus is more skilled, Savage has proven himself against very skilled opponents but mostly due to superior strength. However, since Malgus is a beast himself, I doubt Savage will gain much with his sheer strength here. I think that's one of the other reasons why he lost to Maul so easily. When someone can match his strength, he finds himself in a tough spot.
Since Malgus will push him to his limits, Savage will most likely abuse TK in anger and that might give him a huge advantage. Just out of curiosity, do you think Savage could defat Hope Malgus in a pure force fight?
But most lightnings don't even manage to do the damage that Malgus' lightning has done. Do you consider them all below a blaster bolt?
And Savage survived lightning yes, but it did get him down to his knees and leave him unguarded. If he reacts the same way against Malgus, he will get killed. So can he defend against it without finding himself in a disadvantageous position?(I ask this while assuming/hoping that you don't take the cut content of Sidious vs the Brothers fight seriously)
Why do you believe Malgus is more skilled? ILS pointed out that it takes a highly talented and skilled force user to fight with a saber staff, and Savage has used it against saber masters.
I pointed out that Savage has tanked attacks that can cause similar damage, so, other than the damage Malgus's lightning has shown, you'd have to point out another reason as to why Malgus's lightning, in particular, would be more effective than multiple blaster bolts.
That's a possibility depending on how fast he can recover, and he seemed to be taking Dooku's blasts better each time. He was no longer screaming in agony as he was earlier. But if he is hurt enough or floored then it could give Malgus the upper hand (I just dismissed that notion because of the Dooku lowballing). IIRC, though, as a night brother, he was fast enough to defend himself against Ventress while he was down, and Ventress is more agile and quicker than Malgus. Just because he's floored doesn't mean he's done. And other than the scene, there's no other way to determine if Savage learned to block, but since Maul planned to face Sidious with his help, I don't see why he wouldn't have taught Savage how to block lightning
Yes, I know Savage can overcome hope Malgus in a pure force contest. If Malgus uses lightning, all that will do is piss Savage off and bring out Savage's raw power at full.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Why do you believe Malgus is more skilled? ILS pointed out that it takes a highly talented and skilled force user to fight with a saber staff, and Savage has used it against saber masters.I pointed out that Savage has tanked attacks that can cause similar damage, so, other than the damage Malgus's lightning has shown, you'd have to point out another reason as to why Malgus's lightning, in particular, would be more effective than multiple blaster bolts.
That's a possibility depending on how fast he can recover, and he seemed to be taking Dooku's blasts better each time. He was no longer screaming in agony as he was earlier. But if he is hurt enough or floored then it could give Malgus the upper hand (I just dismissed that notion because of the Dooku lowballing). IIRC, though, as a night brother, he was fast enough to defend himself against Ventress while he was down, and Ventress is more agile and quicker than Malgus. Just because he's floored doesn't mean he's done. And other than the scene, there's no other way to determine if Savage learned to block, but since Maul planned to face Sidious with his help, I don't see why he wouldn't have taught Savage how to block lightning
Yes, I know Savage can overcome hope Malgus in a pure force contest. If Malgus uses lightning, all that will do is piss Savage off and bring out Savage's raw power at full.
In Return, Malgus was mostly dependent on his strength against Darach. At least that's what I saw from their fight. In hope, he was fighting less dependent on strength and more with skill. Satele was holding her staff with one hand and still managed to push Malgus back when she was Tk'ing the tree. It seems like he defeated someone against who he has no strength advantage. He also has a more proper training compared to Savage imo. Maul even admits that Savage has been trained to be an expendable reckless monster and lacked the discipline of a true sith.
Savage tanking Malgus' lightning cause he tanked Dooku's is an argument I can respect but the blaster thing has nothing to do with lightning. You yourself said that the whole blaster tanking thing might very well be due to his armor and while it may help him survive the lightning attack, it won't help him stand his ground in a fight.
Have you seen Dooku lowballing from me or are you referring to someone else? As I said before, Dooku's lightning is vastly superior to Malgus at this point. However since he has proven to be capable of bringing Savage down to his knees without any trouble while fighting Ventress, Malgus could do the same. It wouldn't open up holes in his body but it would bring him down to his knees and unlike Dooku, Malgus has the luxury to pour more and more lightning on him until he gets the chance to cut him down with his saber.
Maul planned on fighting Sidious before Savage's death? How so?
I agree that Savage's display of power in rage mode is superior, but I strongly disagree with the notion of Malgus' lightning making Savage stronger.