...Tough call, tough call.
Luke>Sidious>Vitiate>Yoda
I'm inclined to go with the Light Side, because Luke's Battle Meld helps Yoda keep up and Dark Siders inherently aren't good at teamwork. Force storms are a non factor, as Yoda>>>>>>Leia, and if Luke and Leia could stop one...hell, with Yoda, Luke may even be able to stop Ziost attacks that way.
Originally posted by carthage
I doubt Luke is better than Sidious as a duelist, and his feat in DE of destroying multiple rebel fleets with force storms while simultaneously controlling a storm on Coruscant impresses me more than Luke's Dovin basal feat. I'd side with Sidious on that end
Everyone in their prime. I'd say Luke has surpassed palaptine in every category when they are both in their primes. Sidious prime is DE. Luke's prime is NJO. Luke is definitely more powerful and marginally a better duelist. I agree but Force storm takes time to make.
Luke has struggled with Lumiya, Welk, Lomi Plo i,e duelists he should logically annihilate. Sidious has beaten Yoda who is above Caedus in just about everything barring esoteric abilities, they're close but Sidious is canonically better than Caedus. He's also beaten Luke before as well so that helps imo
Team Sith is too strong for any Jedi duo.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
De sinuous can destroy yoda. However with this the Jedi still win as vitiate is the weak link here. Palpatines power can only make up for so much and vitiate maybe powerful but he is below all three here. So as much as I hate to say it the Jedi win.
Vitiate will drain and telepathically disorient the Jedi while Sidious stabs each with the lightsaber.
Originally posted by carthage
Luke has struggled with Lumiya, Welk, Lomi Plo i,e duelists he should logically annihilate. Sidious has beaten Yoda who is above Caedus in just about everything barring esoteric abilities, they're close but Sidious is canonically better than Caedus. He's also beaten Luke before as well so that helps imo
And non-prime Luke beat him on even ground. Seems pretty clear that Luke is the better duelist, especially from end of NJO and onward.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Team Sith is too strong for any Jedi duo.Vitiate is the weak link? You got to be f****** kidding me. 🙄
Vitiate will drain and telepathically disorient the Jedi while Sidious stabs each with the lightsaber.
Out of the three he is the weakest. I have hard time believing that in their primes vitiate can disorient them or drain them. So with that his telepathic powers aren't going to help. His drain ability won't help either. With that whoever he goes up agaisn't he will lose unless he's going up against Luke and can at the very least keep like on the defensive while Sidious takes out yoda making it a 2v1. Luke can still win. He can archive oneness with the force or use his sheer power to win. No matter what scenario, the Jedi win.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
In his prime was t Caedus able to hold off Luke and Jaina in lightsaber combat while injured at the same time. Also wasn't he able to rival Luke in terms of the force.
He held off both individually while injured in each fight, but never both at once. And nah, he can't rival Luke in terms of the Force. Luke's TK is way above Caedus', Caedus has some nice exotic techniques but Luke is solidly above him in terms of overall Force capabilities.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Out of the three he is the weakest. I have hard time believing that in their primes vitiate can disorient them or drain them. So with that his telepathic powers aren't going to help.
The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
Vitiate's telepathic powers are not to be underestimated.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
His drain ability won't help either.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
With that whoever he goes up agaisn't he will lose unless he's going up against Luke and can at the very least keep like on the defensive while Sidious takes out yoda making it a 2v1. Luke can still win. He can archive oneness with the force or use his sheer power to win. No matter what scenario, the Jedi win.
Vitiate have defeated a Strike Team of some of the strongest Jedi of the Order. He can handle any single Jedi.
"No one person - not even Revan - can truly destroy the Emperor. He will destroy Revan, then move on to the rest of us. In time, he will consume all life in the galaxy." (Darth Marr)
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What?The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side.
Well like is no ordinary light sider. He is the light sider. That's like saying palaptines lightning is matched by none. That's not taking into consideration others in the future or people like the ones, however it does take into consideration people from history aka your old republic people.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
Vitiate's telepathic powers are not to be underestimated.
And it doesn't mean that they can resist.
Excuse me! Vitiate is able to drain virtually anybody, even the spirits. None can resist his Force Drain powers. And his most potent expressions of Force Drain can literally atomize living beings including Jedi and Sith.
Well it won't work agaisn't force users of Luke and Yodas caliber. Get over it.
Oneness with the Force is not a defensive technique. It enhances a Jedi's connectivity to the Force.
Again only to disprove you. Achieving oneness with the force amps everything a user has. Also by himself Luke is more powerful than vitiate by a landslide. Lucas has stated that Luke is the greatest most powerful Jedi/SITH that there ever has or will be. With that vitiate gets stomped by Luke no matter what form he's in.
Vitiate have defeated a Strike Team of some of the strongest Jedi of the Order. He can handle any single Jedi.
Of their order, none of which hold a candle to Luke Skywalker or yoda.
"No one person - not even Revan - can truly destroy the Emperor. He will destroy Revan, then move on to the rest of us. In time, he will consume all life in the galaxy." (Darth Marr)
Darth Marr didn't know about Darth Sidious, Luke Skywlaker, yoda. So that statement is not a really helpful one. Also it says truly destroy which means vitiate is someone who does 1) essence transfer or spam other thing, however he can be defeated.
See above.
Vitiate agains gets stomped and isn't this him in his physical form? Stay on topic. He is the we least and can't defeat any of the Jedi so the SITH lose due to having the weak link.