Ziost Vitiate vs. the Daughter

Started by Trocity9 pages

I love when Legend gets trashed.

So much irony, so many double standards.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which you have failed to prove. Nowhere are we given reason to believe the Father is lying.

Here:

In these reliefs, Abeloth stood alone in the courtyard, watching the Father depart with the Son and Daughter. Her face was contorted in anger, and the air around her was whirling with fronds and jungle reptiles and lightning. In the panels that followed, she looked even more deranged. The courtyard was overrun with vegetation, and a large winged lizard was struggling to escape her grasp, its eyes wide with terror, it wings straining as it struggled to pull its foot out of her hand.

Taken from (Star Wars: Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse)

You have memory issues or you don't pay attention?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The fact that he knew the Chosen One was among the Jedi is proof he knew about Anakin Skywalker lol. He may not have known his exact identity, but he knew he existed, he could only have done so by sensing his presence.

The legend of The Chosen One is ancient in its origins. The Father may have known about this legend from earlier visitors.

Mysterious message! A transmission has been intercepted far beyond the Outer Rim, deep in the Chrelythiumn system. Why the call has been made, and from where cannot be established. But buried in the message is a Jedi distress code that has not been used in over 2,000 years.

Taken from (Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Overlords)

The highlighted part implies that the distress signal may have been intercepted in ancient times at some point.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
What is this supposed to prove? And Xendor discovered the planet by his own initiative I believe.

My point is that the Father is unlikely to be all-knowing. Xendor may have intercepted the distress signal of Mortis.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not only does your "revelation" prove diddly squat, but its not even relevant to this topic.

I can sense the butthurt in you.

Provide solid evidence that The Ones were able to destroy galaxies with mere presence as per your claim. Till then, you don't have a point, only Father's unsubstantiated claim to rely upon.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You can read yes? The Father claimed as much and his claim has been verified by a canon source. You've yet to invalidate either.

Its not much of a proof and it is contradicted in another source.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That Sidious > Vitiate. 😐

No, this is not the point. You claimed that The Ones had profound impact on the cosmic Force. If this is indeed the case, then how come the balance of the Force shifted due to external developments?

Vitiate have superior feats then your precious Sidious.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol cute.

Still waiting for solid evidence.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No, he drained the living Force from Nathema and Ziost. Both planets remained intact.

Draining living Force of some planets =/= tearing the apart the very fabric of the universe.


And what am I saying? I am talking about the Force, not planets.

REPEAT:

Vitiate had torn the very fabric of the cosmic Force apart around Nathema and Ziost.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
How? Vitiate had ample time to deactivate the HoT's weapon and he did not. If we was as powerful as the Ones, he would have deactivated his weapon before he attacked. He didn't. And he died as a result.

The Ones could deactivate lightsabers with ease, this is no excuse.


Inferior Force-users have performed these feats so power isn't much relevant. Vitiate may not have concentrated much on this matter or his lack of showing is indication of PIS.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
By banishing him with a Wall of Light...

Prove that Wall of Light can stop Vitiate. And prove that Daughter have knowledge of this technique.

Originally posted by Trocity
I love when Legend gets trashed.

So much irony, so many double standards.


If trashing comprises of ignoring and dodging points and taking claims of favorite characters at face value but not those of others, then yes.

Originally posted by Trocity
I love when Legend gets trashed.

So much irony, so many double standards.


TBH I'm genuinely perplexed why people still talk to Legend. He’s a top-class troll for sure, but it's more irritating now than it's amusing IMHO. We all should just put him on ignore and let him live in his little world where Vitiate > the Ones.

Originally posted by Stigma
TBH I'm genuinely perplexed why people still talk to Legend. He’s a top-class troll for sure, but it's more irritating now than it's amusing IMHO. We all should just put him on ignore and let him live in his little world where Vitiate > the Ones.

TBH why don't you STFU and mind your own bloody business? You are a troll, I am a debater.

An individual isn't a troll if he is debating for a stance that is not very popular.

LeGenD, you're not a debater LOL. You're a SWTORetard. Now off you go on ignore.

Originally posted by Stigma
LeGenD, you're not a debater LOL. You're a SWTORetard. Now off you go on ignore.

Such a cry baby. Puts people on ignore for disagreements on matters of fiction. Coward.

Originally posted by Emperordmb 4
Whether a troll or a moron, the result is the same: an opinion not worth considering.

Mind your language.

This thread is about the Daughter and her capabilities, feats, and content will be brought into question and scrutinized just like other characters.

LOL Stigma ownin

Originally posted by Trocity
LOL Stigma ownin

This is an example of trolling, mind you. His participation in debate is lacking. You own someone in a debate, not with trolling and stupidity.

He is insecure cry baby.

If he assumes that The Ones cannot be contested then why the hell he bothered to make this thread? Was this supposed to be a bait?

And when the discussion happened, he put the opposition on the ignore. Brilliant.

Can't help but notice LeGenD's argument is saturated with double standards and a peculiar emphasis on feats... mmm

Stigma is much more of a troll than Legend. Like it or not, Legend is sincere in his stances.

Neph, you've made exactly 2 posts in this thread and each one has been a thinly-veiled defense of LeGenD.

If you don't restrain yourself, one might begin to think you share his opinions. 😬

We have these debates due to inconsistencies in official disclosures.

In one source, it is stated that The Ones migrated to the Mortis because they could harm the galaxy. In another source, it is stated that The Ones migrated to Mortis due to Abeloth. This is a contradiction.

Now coming towards on-screen depictions, the Jedi are able to tolerate powers of the Son. The Ones aren't demonstrated damaging the environment of Mortis either while fighting each other.

Yet some members harbor the belief that The Ones can destroy galaxies because the Father said so.

In the nutshell, Star Wars is mostly devoid of logic.

At the least, Vitiate's story and depiction is much more logical. He is stated to grow in power with passage of time by virtue of draining others. And his demonstrations co-align with his progression.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Neph, you've made exactly 2 posts in this thread and each one has been a thinly-veiled defense of LeGenD.

If you don't restrain yourself, one might begin to think you share his opinions. 😬

I've barely even read this thread, I don't even know what Legends stance is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Stigma is much more of a troll than Legend. Like it or not, Legend is sincere in his stances.

Neph, the fact that you and I differ on the proper placement of Bane and co. does not make me a troll, but it makes you wrong 😉

Apart from that... carry on 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
I've barely even read this thread, I don't even know what Legends stance is.

You barely read the thread and still found a very specific remark of Beni's to nitpick in a dense wall of text? mmm

Not buying it, my man.

Neph's sincerity is in question tbh.

Originally posted by Stigma
Neph, the fact that you and I differ on the proper placement of Bane and co. does not make me a troll, but it makes you wrong 😉

Apart from that... carry on 👆

I agree that it doesn't make you a troll. Your thinly veiled and open antagonism is what makes you a troll.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You barely read the thread and still found a very specific remark of Beni's to nitpick in a dense wall of text? mmm

Not buying it, my man.

I noticed the gif while skimming.

I am hurt by these remarks, Neph. I thought you knew I love you? 🙁

I regard you with immense distaste.