Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI'm guessing they didn't teach you to PEE on the page at school.
Here:In these reliefs, Abeloth stood alone in the courtyard, watching the Father depart with the Son and Daughter. Her face was contorted in anger, and the air around her was whirling with fronds and jungle reptiles and lightning. In the panels that followed, she looked even more deranged. The courtyard was overrun with vegetation, and a large winged lizard was struggling to escape her grasp, its eyes wide with terror, it wings straining as it struggled to pull its foot out of her hand.
Taken from (Star Wars: Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse)
You have memory issues or you don't pay attention?
Here, let me give you a quick lesson.
Point
Evidence
Explanation
Funnily enough your evidence is not self-explanatory, and you've failed to explain how it proves your point. Provide an explanation for why I should care and all in all come back to me when your mastered basic debating skills.
More educational revelations can be found here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks3/english/reading/character/revision/6/
And while your at it take a leaf out of your own book and pay attention to my reponse you missed/ignored.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15232177#post15232177
The legend of The Chosen One is ancient in its origins. The Father may have known about this legend from earlier visitors.Knowledge of the legend would not give him knowledge of specific time and point at which Anakin was old enough to fulfill his destiny. As you say the legend was ancient, so how did he know Anakin existed here and now? The only explanation is that he sensed his presence.Mysterious message! A transmission has been intercepted far beyond the Outer Rim, deep in the Chrelythiumn system. Why the call has been made, and from where cannot be established. But buried in the message is a Jedi distress code that has not been used in over 2,000 years.
Taken from (Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Overlords)
The highlighted part implies that the distress signal may have been intercepted in ancient times at some point.
My point is that the Father is unlikely to be all-knowing. Xendor may have intercepted the distress signal of Mortis.1. The Father is not all knowing, but he is logically knowledgable of powerful beings in the universe and particular those tied to the balance in the Force he maintains. 2. Xendor has nothing to do with this, nor disproves this.
I can sense the butthurt in you.So now we're resorting to trolling? Unsurprising.
Provide [B]solid evidence that The Ones were able to destroy galaxies with mere presence as per your claim. Till then, you don't have a point, only Father's unsubstantiated claim to rely upon.[/b]First off lets be clear on what's being claimed:
"You cannot imagine what pain it is to have such love for your children… and realize that they could tear the very fabric of our universe."
Next let's acknowledge this as the Father's claim, not mine. Then let's understand your failure to provide reasons to disbelieve this claim, and last but by no means least let's address your continued avoidance of the following:
Source: The Ultimate Visual Guide: Updated and Expandedi.e. canonical proof the Father speaks the truth. So are you going to grow a pair and face the facts or do you plan to ignore this response as well? I'll get the concession form ready.Long ago, the Ones withdrew from the galaxy to avoid ruining it with their Force powers.
No, this is not the point. You claimed that The Ones had profound impact on the cosmic Force. If this is indeed the case, then how come the balance of the Force shifted due to external developments?😐 So because the Ones have a profound impact on the Force, others cannot control it? How so?
And what am I saying? I am talking about the Force, not planets.But he didn't. That's a false claim. He drained the living Force from the planet, if he drained the cosmic Force the planet itself would have been obliterated and we have a rend in space and time on our hands, because that is what the cosmic Force is, its the cohesion of matter, space and time.REPEAT:
Vitiate had torn the very fabric of the cosmic Force apart around Nathema and Ziost.
The Ones ability to tear that apart is beyond anything Vitiate has ever accomplished.
Inferior Force-users have performed these feats so power isn't much relevant. Vitiate may not have concentrated much on this matter or his lack of showing is indication of PIS.Care to provide an example? I can't think of any.
Prove that Wall of Light can stop Vitiate. And prove that Daughter have knowledge of this technique.It destroys the dark side. Vitiate is of the dark side. The Daughter is the embodiment of the light side, of course she knows this technique. 🙄
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAre you describing yourself here or?
If trashing comprises of ignoring and dodging points and taking claims of favorite characters at face value but not those of others, then yes.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Considering the very first post you made in this thread was just a bunch of butthurt bitching, I don't think you have the right to criticize anyone for sowing discord and not want to even pretend to debate with you.
You should calm down.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Labeling people fangirl is provoking action now? It is was not said to provoke someone.
You should calm down.
Deflect all you want. The only one who needs to calm down is you. You're the only one personally invested in this thread in anyway.
Lol at Legend. If the Son could give a perfect vision of the future (Anakin's defeat on Mustafar, destruction of Alderan, Sidious becoming Emperor, ect.) The Father not only knew of Anakin's existence, but also his ultimate fate. He likely knew of Vitiate.
Not to mention, I think that if Vitiate were as powerful as the Ones, and unable to be stopped by Mortals, the Ones would likely intervene as they do whenever Abeloth escapes.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm guessing they didn't teach you to PEE on the page at school.Here, let me give you a quick lesson.
Point
Evidence
Explanation
Funnily enough your evidence is not self-explanatory, and you've failed to explain how it proves your point. Provide an explanation for why I should care and all in all come back to me when your mastered basic debating skills.
More educational revelations can be found here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks3/english/reading/character/revision/6/
And while your at it take a leaf out of your own book and pay attention to my reponse you missed/ignored.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15232177#post15232177
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Knowledge of the legend would not give him knowledge of specific time and point at which Anakin was old enough to fulfill his destiny. As you say the legend was ancient, so how did he know Anakin existed here and now? The only explanation is that he sensed his presence.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
1. The Father is not all knowing, but he is logically knowledgable of powerful beings in the universe and particular those tied to the balance in the Force he maintains. 2. Xendor has nothing to do with this, nor disproves this.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
First off lets be clear on what's being claimed:"You cannot imagine what pain it is to have such love for your children… and realize that they could tear the very fabric of our universe."
Next let's acknowledge this as the Father's claim, not mine. Then let's understand your failure to provide reasons to disbelieve this claim, and last but by no means least let's address your continued avoidance of the following:
i.e. canonical proof the Father speaks the truth. So are you going to grow a pair and face the facts or do you plan to ignore this response as well? I'll get the concession form ready.
It is apparent from showings of Abeloth that that statement is hyperbolic. Abeloth did not harm the galaxy with her powers and she is known to subdue both The Son and The Daughter combined in a confrontation.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
😐 So because the Ones have a profound impact on the Force, others cannot control it? How so?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
But he didn't. That's a false claim. He drained the living Force from the planet, if he drained the cosmic Force the planet itself would have been obliterated and we have a rend in space and time on our hands, because that is what the cosmic Force is, its the cohesion of matter, space and time.
Living Force or Unifying Force; these are philosophies.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
The Ones ability to tear that apart is beyond anything Vitiate has ever accomplished.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Care to provide an example? I can't think of any.
I sucked the energy out of the Anzati's lightsaber and forced myself to smile as I did so.
Taken from I, Jedi
In addition, Teneb Kel demonstrated the capability to pull lightsaber/weapons from the hands of the wielder and deactivate them without much effort.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It destroys the dark side. Vitiate is of the dark side. The Daughter is the embodiment of the light side, of course she knows this technique. 🙄Are you describing yourself here or?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Daughter's mere presence probably wins, tbh.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
FOTJ Confirms that the Ones are what the Celestials became.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I do find it interesting that you are using a source that says Celestials>Vitiate though.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The Daughter stomps. Not even Sidious could defeat her I believe. So if I have doubt about this, vitiate gets slaughtered 10/10 times.
It is stated in SWTOR that formless Vitiate cannot be restrained or destroyed by conventional methods/means.