Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) vs Darth Maul

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He was in a saber lock so wouldn't necessarily jump as he knew he had the skill edge and kenobi couldn't hold out forever.

A hand he can use to increase his strenght by bionics. Kenobi is a soresu master who has his own physical strenght.

If I jump over you, you shouldn't be surprised. You saw me jump over you. You trying to make excuses for maul and trying to put him above Anakin is unworthy of a Star Wars fan.

So he wouldn't take a greater tactical position thus proving he's a moron like I claimed. I'm glad you agree.

Kenobi has human like strength and despite this the robotic hand was not a factor.

If someone jumps up and force pushes a weapon you didn't realize was still in play while I'm taunting you then yes I'd be surprised. You're a liar.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Except it is not. Luke is referred to as a Jedi throughout the whole movie. Yoda and Vader both describe his skills as being completed.

And Qui-Gon said Obi-Wan is ready. It's the same thing, you're just trying to make it mean something different. In fact if anything Kenobi was thoroughly better trained than Luke.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Yoda, obviously was referring to a choice that Luke would have to make in becoming a Sith or Jedi. If he didn’t kill Vader then all was lost if he did then he confirms himself as a Jedi.

Yoda was referring to the Trials Luke has to undergo before he becomes a Jedi. Vader was the Ultimate Trial for Luke to undergo. There was no Jedi Order to test him with the standard Jedi Trials.

And btw, Luke didn't kill Vader, so your theory is wrong.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Obi wan master died and he promised to train Anakin, so he was promoted. Nothing about their situations is the same.

Again you seem quite confused as to the events of TPM. Kenobi got Knighted first, and then Yoda said "No" to him training Anakin. Then only when Obi-Wan stated he will train him regardless was it that Yoda agreed.

But he was already Knighted, so that was a completely separate issue.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Questionable? That must be why Luke himself admits in the movie that he doesn’t believe his father would destroyed just like he didn’t in their previous fight. Why we see Vader griping the pole with his hands when Luke says “Then I have truly lost my father”. Why Luke mentions more than one that he can feel the conflict within his father.

Vader might have been conflicted sure. But he sure didn't look like he was holding back when he states "You are Unwise to Lower your defenses". And neither does the script or the novel hint to him holding back during the Saber clash.

Still holding back or not is no excuse for Vader to get battered by Luke. Surely he should put in 100% to defend himself against Luke's onslaught at least. And surely he didn't want his hand chopped off.

Originally posted by Kotor3
As for Maul holding back, you are right he was holding back with Obi wan broke his lance in two. When Obi wan had him backing up. You mean fortunate a pit was in the same room. Poor Maul couldn’t respond quickly enough as Obi wan cut him in half.

Now you just sound like a Maul hater. Kenobi couldn't defeat Maul with Qui-Gon's direct aid. Kenobi got defeated by Maul when he was kicked off the ledge and disarmed. Lucky for Kenobi, his Master was there to stop Maul killing Kenobi.

Then Kenobi gets a HUGE Rest whilst Maul finished off Qui-Gon. And even then in the final 1 v 1 it ends with Maul chucking Kenobi down a pit and throwing away his weapon.

There was no skill at all in Kenobi's final victory. It was simply a surprise attack, against an opponent who had no clue Kenobi even had a weapon.

Let's not be a hater and pretend Maul was too slow to react to Kenobi, as if that was the case the fight never would have lasted 2 seconds in the first place.

Originally posted by Kotor3
You are right Luke beat a Vader who wasn’t giving his all and got surprise by Luke’s onslaught. While Maul, was too slow to react to Obi wan. All he could do was make the stupid look on his face as he got cut in half.

LMAO! So a Vader who was purposefully enraging Luke knowing full well Luke has his weapon got completely battered by Luke in a long fought Saber duel because he was "caught by surprise.." But a Maul who had no clue Kenobi even had a weapon and sliced with the initial surprise attack was somehow beaten due to being too slow?

Yeah you're definitely a very biased Maul hater, and are not being Objective here in the slightest.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And Qui-Gon said Obi-Wan is ready. It's the same thing, you're just trying to make it mean something different. In fact if anything Kenobi was thoroughly better trained than Luke.
Your statement is irrelevant to the point. You stated that Vader lost to a padawan, correct? I am stating that Luke was not a Padawan but a Jedi throughout the whole movie.

Either way your comparison has no merit. Vader was not trying and if he was going all out that just makes Luke win that more impressive. Vader is much higher than Maul.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yoda was referring to the Trials Luke has to undergo before he becomes a Jedi. Vader was the Ultimate Trial for Luke to undergo. There was no Jedi Order to test him with the standard Jedi Trials.
And btw, Luke didn't kill Vader, so your theory is wrong.
When did I say that he killed Vader? Once again, whether Luke is a padawan or not, whichever you choose his feat of defeating Vader compares how to Obi wan defeating Maul?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
]Again you seem quite confused as to the events of TPM. Kenobi got Knighted first, and then Yoda said "No" to him training Anakin. Then only when Obi-Wan stated he will train him regardless was it that Yoda agreed.
But he was already Knighted, so that was a completely separate issue.
Fine.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Vader might have been conflicted sure. But he sure didn't look like he was holding back when he states "You are Unwise to Lower your defenses". And neither does the script or the novel hint to him holding back during the Saber clash.

Still holding back or not is no excuse for Vader to get battered by Luke. Surely he should put in 100% to defend himself against Luke's onslaught at least. And surely he didn't want his hand chopped off.

Vader did not employ use of the force as he did in ESB when he showed Luke what he could do. I also gave you Luke thoughts on battle by quoting his words. If you want to say that Vader was going all out then the more impressive for Luke.

Maul was going for the kill. He wasn’t conflicted and had a lot of help from the environment and still lost.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Now you just sound like a Maul hater. Kenobi couldn't defeat Maul with Qui-Gon's direct aid. Kenobi got defeated by Maul when he was kicked off the ledge and disarmed. Lucky for Kenobi, his Master was there to stop Maul killing Kenobi.

Then Kenobi gets a HUGE Rest whilst Maul finished off Qui-Gon. And even then in the final 1 v 1 it ends with Maul chucking Kenobi down a pit and throwing away his weapon.


How do you come to the reason that Kenobit and Qui Gon could not defeat Maul together? Did Maul defeat them both together? Maul was saved by the shields from Qui Gon’s attacks which allowed him to regroup. Then the shields allowed him to face them one on one.

No Maul could not defeat both of them together which is why the script was probably written in a way in which Kenobi and Qui Go were separated.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
There was no skill at all in Kenobi's final victory. It was simply a surprise attack, against an opponent who had no clue Kenobi even had a weapon.

Let's not be a hater and pretend Maul was too slow to react to Kenobi, as if that was the case the fight never would have lasted 2 seconds in the first place.

Surprise or not, that fact is he was not able to sense or respond to the attack fast enough.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LMAO! So a Vader who was purposefully enraging Luke knowing full well Luke has his weapon got completely battered by Luke in a long fought Saber duel because he was "caught by surprise.." But a Maul who had no clue Kenobi even had a weapon and sliced with the initial surprise attack was somehow beaten due to being too slow?

Yeah you're definitely a very biased Maul hater, and are not being Objective here in the slightest.

Calling me biased without proof doesn’t make your statement true. You are trying to give Maul more then he deserves. By comparing his fight to Vader’s and Luke is where you fail. It is a bad comparison.

As you stated Vader was urging Luke to become angry. Showing also that Vader was not trying to kill Luke or going all out as you stated before. He wanted Luke to succeed him. Luke is also much more powerful than Obi Wan. To even thing that Padawan Obi wan could have done the same to Vader would be laughable.

I am very objective, but your comparison is not a good one so choose another.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So he wouldn't take a greater tactical position thus proving he's a moron like I claimed. I'm glad you agree.

Kenobi has human like strength and despite this the robotic hand was not a factor.

If someone jumps up and force pushes a weapon you didn't realize was still in play while I'm taunting you then yes I'd be surprised. You're a liar.

I never disagreed. I've even called him stupid. It could also be that he's also stubborn and arrogant/overconfident.

Kenobi has the force to augment his physical capabilities thus he can augment his strenght and durability. Anakin was still able to push back and crush a Magnaguards robotic hand.

Then you're stupid. You see someone jump right in front of you. Also you killed the person and their lightsaber never left why would you not know it was there. It just dropped it never went away. Maul is an idiot and he loses this battle.

There can be no doubt that Maul was unable to react to Kenobi's attack, well, because he was unable to. That doesn't mean Maul can't react to Kenobi in general, when he has shown to be able to. However, I'm fast enough to dodge a punch from most any human. That doesn't mean I'll be able to every time. Same thing here. Maul was unable to react to Kenobi's attack.

I agree with Darth though that Kenobi was trained much better than Luke at that stage. Of that there can be no doubt.

What also can't be doubted in that Vader was probably holding back. That is how the logical line of progression works for that scene. Sure it's never directly stated but we can infer more that he was than that he wasn't.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I never disagreed. I've even called him stupid. It could also be that he's also stubborn and arrogant/overconfident.

Kenobi has the force to augment his physical capabilities thus he can augment his strenght and durability. Anakin was still able to push back and crush a Magnaguards robotic hand.

Then you're stupid. You see someone jump right in front of you. Also you killed the person and their lightsaber never left why would you not know it was there. It just dropped it never went away. Maul is an idiot and he loses this battle.

and not skilled enough to pull off the jump.

He has to actively augment them so his durability doesn't change. Anakin is also weak and the force can't augment Obi's legs to hurt grievous because he durability doesn't change. That's a lie.

No, I'm honest. He didn't see the move coming and was caught off guard. That's what happened in the scene so you're either too moronic to see it or lying. Either way you're an awful, biased debater.

Originally posted by quanchi112
and not skilled enough to pull off the jump.

He has to actively augment them so his durability doesn't change. Anakin is also weak and the force can't augment Obi's legs to hurt grievous because he durability doesn't change. That's a lie.

No, I'm honest. He didn't see the move coming and was caught off guard. That's what happened in the scene so you're either too moronic to see it or lying. Either way you're an awful, biased debater.

Nah. That is your own interpretation of that specific moment.

No force augmentation allows a being to enhance their physical capabilities to different levels based on the force weilders power in the force. Sidious for instance would be much stronger, faster, more durable than maul due to greater command in the force. So your point saying he has to actively augment his so his durability doesn't change is ? as most to all force wielders sub,went themselves. Considering Grevious has armour that is insanely strong that's not really supprising and also considering not all the force augmentation was in that one hit, and I don't believe kenobi to be a very powerful force weilder I don't see him hurting him like that. What's a lie?

Then maul is stupid. While I admit the move was creative, maul isn't blind. He can see kenobi jump correct? If so he could have just moved to the left or the right to get out of it or have just sliced him in half when he came back up , or used his precog to tell kenobi would have done that. Maul is just flat out stupid.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Nah. That is your own interpretation of that specific moment.

No force augmentation allows a being to enhance their physical capabilities to different levels based on the force weilders power in the force. Sidious for instance would be much stronger, faster, more durable than maul due to greater command in the force. So your point saying he has to actively augment his so his durability doesn't change is ? as most to all force wielders sub,went themselves. Considering Grevious has armour that is insanely strong that's not really supprising and also considering not all the force augmentation was in that one hit, and I don't believe kenobi to be a very powerful force weilder I don't see him hurting him like that. What's a lie?

Then maul is stupid. While I admit the move was creative, maul isn't blind. He can see kenobi jump correct? If so he could have just moved to the left or the right to get out of it or have just sliced him in half when he came back up , or used his precog to tell kenobi would have done that. Maul is just flat out stupid.

No, that's a fact. His skill wasn't up to par therefore it's inferior skill.

No, durability has never been enhanced. That's a lie. Physicality such as leaping farther, etc.

Maul was taken by surprise. That doesn't make him stupid he was just caught off surprise. Anakin was around in how he was defeated. That being said Maul wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, that's a fact. His skill wasn't up to par therefore it's inferior skill.

No, durability has never been enhanced. That's a lie. Physicality such as leaping farther, etc.

Maul was taken by surprise. That doesn't make him stupid he was just caught off surprise. Anakin was around in how he was defeated. That being said Maul wins.

That's your own interpretation. He lacked the tactical positioning in that moment.

Yes it has. How do you think Obi wan has taken so much punishment throughout the clone wars. This shows how you don't understand the force. Force augmentation bolsters any physical capabilitiy. The ability to jump high distances, run faster, become stronger, more agile, become more durable, etc. Notice how Jedi,and Sith can take various amounts of punishment and how they jump,from large distances or heights and aren't affected.

Nah. Anakin is superior and more powerful in the force. You have no evidence to,suggest maul wins. The two are not on the same level. Maul is massively outclassed by Anakin in every category.

Maul lost badly to Padawan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker stomped Count Dooku whom dismantled Master Kenobi. Anakin wins.

Quanchi is wrong again, no one is surprised however.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
That's your own interpretation. He lacked the tactical positioning in that moment.

Yes it has. How do you think Obi wan has taken so much punishment throughout the clone wars. This shows how you don't understand the force. Force augmentation bolsters any physical capabilitiy. The ability to jump high distances, run faster, become stronger, more agile, become more durable, etc. Notice how Jedi,and Sith can take various amounts of punishment and how they jump,from large distances or heights and aren't affected.

Nah. Anakin is superior and more powerful in the force. You have no evidence to,suggest maul wins. The two are not on the same level. Maul is massively outclassed by Anakin in every category.

And the skill to pull that off.

No, it doesn't. Kenobi just wasn't killed. He was often beaten and almost killed. Dooku ko'd him easily in rots. Lucky Anakin was there to save his weak ass.

They bolster their physical attributes but can't alter their durability.

So what ? Maul is more skilled and quicker with a lightsaber. Anakin was more powerful in the force than Kenobi and lost. 😂

Originally posted by AncientPower
Maul lost badly to Padawan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker stomped Count Dooku whom dismantled Master Kenobi. Anakin wins.

Quanchi is wrong again, no one is surprised however.

Maul skill wise had Kenobi at his mercy. He was beaten by surprise because he taunted his opponent.

Kenobi bested Anakin due to skill. Anakin made a stupid maneuver that his own opponent ware d him against. I'm right yet again. Maul wins over the crybaby moron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And the skill to pull that off.

No, it doesn't. Kenobi just wasn't killed. He was often beaten and almost killed. Dooku ko'd him easily in rots. Lucky Anakin was there to save his weak ass.

They bolster their physical attributes but can't alter their durability.

So what ? Maul is more skilled and quicker with a lightsaber. Anakin was more powerful in the force than Kenobi and lost. 😂

No just tactical disadvantage.

Yes it does. It's force augmentation. It can bolster any physical capability. Strenght, agility, speed, endurance/stamina, durability etc. all of which have examples in the movies. Prove that force augmentation doesn't work with durability. Considering that Dooku had previously force pushed him, and he was fine getting up around a second or two afterward, was force choked by Dooku for 2-3 seconds then thrown across a room and hit a metal balcony and then said balcony was collapsed on his legs. So yes he would be no doubt out for the count. Shall we look at how Kenobi didn't have any broken bones or anything afterward? How he was able to just walk and cheerfully talk to Anakin without any strain and even go on to fight General Grevious?

Than Anakin? Anakin outclasses maul as both a duelist and force weilder. Due to tactical disadvantage. 😂 Quicker I don't think so. Anakin is stated to be on Sidious level or at least in the same league. Maul is not nor has he shown that he is. Maul is one if not the most overrated Star Wars character of all time and his power and skill is not on level with the greats. Not even close. If you can disprove this try.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No just tactical disadvantage.

Yes it does. It's force augmentation. It can bolster any physical capability. Strenght, agility, speed, endurance/stamina, durability etc. all of which have examples in the movies. Prove that force augmentation doesn't work with durability. Considering that Dooku had previously force pushed him, and he was fine getting up around a second or two afterward, was force choked by Dooku for 2-3 seconds then thrown across a room and hit a metal balcony and then said balcony was collapsed on his legs. So yes he would be no doubt out for the count. Shall we look at how Kenobi didn't have any broken bones or anything afterward? How he was able to just walk and cheerfully talk to Anakin without any strain and even go on to fight General Grevious?

Than Anakin? Anakin outclasses maul as both a duelist and force weilder. Due to tactical disadvantage. 😂 Quicker I don't think so. Anakin is stated to be on Sidious level or at least in the same league. Maul is not nor has he shown that he is. Maul is one if not the most overrated Star Wars character of all time and his power and skill is not on level with the greats. Not even close. If you can disprove this try.

He lacked the skill.

When has it boosted durability ? Obi got knocked out and that just pinned him in. It didn't need to break at bones. Kenobi hurt himself kicking grievous.

Nah. So what ? Sidious considered maul a rival. Your opinion is worse than the stuff that comes out of my regal *******.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He lacked the skill.

When has it boosted durability ? Obi got knocked out and that just pinned him in. It didn't need to break at bones. Kenobi hurt himself kicking grievous.

Nah. So what ? Sidious considered maul a rival. Your opinion is worse than the stuff that comes out of my regal *******.

I actually re watched the fight and he would have landed if he didn't jump form that position in which he was in a bad tactical disadvantaged spot. So it wasn't lack of skill just a tactical disadvantage.

Oh how about when windu a human jumped from the top of a balcony like thing in AOTC to the ground and wasn't hurt at all, how Obi has taken multiple beatings and come out of it just fine.(Perfect Example would be when he was fighting a Slaver and took a large amount of punishment and was just fine, also how Obi took a force push from maul and just took it like it didn't matter, how Anakin has been able to take Lightning from Dooku and survive for a longer period of time at one point taking it and just getting. Up like it was nothing, or how he was able to take multiple light wipes hit from multiple guards having the queen say so determined as he didn't instantly fall unconscious, how Obi didn't die when Dooku choked, flung him into a metal railing, then collapse said railing on him, how Luke was Abel to take blast from Sidious belfry he went all out and how he didn't just die instantly but just suffered, how Dooku was Abel to take hits from Anakin(Dooku is 83 years old so really anything showing his durability is the force) how yoda was able to fall from about a 100ft and just walk it off,and many many other examples.

Not in skill. He considered him a rival faction. Sidious saying that means as a Sith faction as based on evidence maul was not match for Sidious so he wouldn't be a rival. Anakin would be closer than maul was. At least I have good opinion. Al. You have are baseless rants. 💃

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I actually re watched the fight and he would have landed if he didn't jump form that position in which he was in a bad tactical disadvantaged spot. So it wasn't lack of skill just a tactical disadvantage.

Oh how about when windu a human jumped from the top of a balcony like thing in AOTC to the ground and wasn't hurt at all, how Obi has taken multiple beatings and come out of it just fine.(Perfect Example would be when he was fighting a Slaver and took a large amount of punishment and was just fine, also how Obi took a force push from maul and just took it like it didn't matter, how Anakin has been able to take Lightning from Dooku and survive for a longer period of time at one point taking it and just getting. Up like it was nothing, or how he was able to take multiple light wipes hit from multiple guards having the queen say so determined as he didn't instantly fall unconscious, how Obi didn't die when Dooku choked, flung him into a metal railing, then collapse said railing on him, how Luke was Abel to take blast from Sidious belfry he went all out and how he didn't just die instantly but just suffered, how Dooku was Abel to take hits from Anakin(Dooku is 83 years old so really anything showing his durability is the force) how yoda was able to fall from about a 100ft and just walk it off,and many many other examples.

Not in skill. He considered him a rival faction. Sidious saying that means as a Sith faction as based on evidence maul was not match for Sidious so he wouldn't be a rival. Anakin would be closer than maul was. At least I have good opinion. Al. You have are baseless rants. 💃

The jump wasn't the problem kenobi was.

That just means he survived beatings. I can name a host of humans who have survived way worse beatings who are humans aka Riggs, mcclane.

Anakin was really hurt from the lightning. It took him over a minute or so to recover. That's awful. We see a far more powerful lightning used against Luke and he walked like a champ without time needed to recover.

I already responded to the dooku example. Quit repeating yourself like some baboon.

He was a rival sidious beat. You are wrong and ignore his words because you're a moronic fanboy.

Maui based off defeating Qui, Kenobi, and Pre Vizsla.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The jump wasn't the problem kenobi was.

That just means he survived beatings. I can name a host of humans who have survived way worse beatings who are humans aka Riggs, mcclane.

Anakin was really hurt from the lightning. It took him over a minute or so to recover. That's awful. We see a far more powerful lightning used against Luke and he walked like a champ without time needed to recover.

I already responded to the dooku example. Quit repeating yourself like some baboon.

He was a rival sidious beat. You are wrong and ignore his words because you're a moronic fanboy.

Maui based off defeating Qui, Kenobi, and Pre Vizsla.

So with that you admit it isn't a skil problem just a situational/tactical issue.

The beatings he recekved are nothing the average human would survive or best case scenario not need some type of medical treatment or not lose a tooth or blood. Kenobi didn't lose any in his battle with the zygerian slaver, his bones weren't crushed when Dooku collapsed,and he recovers with no injury, a normal human would have had some broken bones and wouldn't have recovered like that, windu jumped from a very high point in AOTC and landed without any injury, human jump off of high points to kill themselves.

Where? Anyway, Dooku is an 83 year old human male and www able to take kicks from Anakin Skywalker, and was able to fight 3 nightsist re while intoxicated. So unless you can actually refute that Get out.

A rival faction not a rival swordsman or force weilder. His words say You have become a rival. He didn't say a rival in what specifically. I go based off of evidence and the evidence shows that maul stood no chance against Sidious with the blade or the force. So definitly not a rival in skill. If he were than Dooku would be considered a competitor for Sidious rival seeing as he is greater than maul.

Anakin is better than all of them. So what does beating them prove exactly?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So with that you admit it isn't a skil problem just a situational/tactical issue.

The beatings he recekved are nothing the average human would survive or best case scenario not need some type of medical treatment or not lose a tooth or blood. Kenobi didn't lose any in his battle with the zygerian slaver, his bones weren't crushed when Dooku collapsed,and he recovers with no injury, a normal human would have had some broken bones and wouldn't have recovered like that, windu jumped from a very high point in AOTC and landed without any injury, human jump off of high points to kill themselves.

Where? Anyway, Dooku is an 83 year old human male and www able to take kicks from Anakin Skywalker, and was able to fight 3 nightsist re while intoxicated. So unless you can actually refute that Get out.

A rival faction not a rival swordsman or force weilder. His words say You have become a rival. He didn't say a rival in what specifically. I go based off of evidence and the evidence shows that maul stood no chance against Sidious with the blade or the force. So definitly not a rival in skill. If he were than Dooku would be considered a competitor for Sidious rival seeing as he is greater than maul.

Anakin is better than all of them. So what does beating them prove exactly?

He lacked the skill to defeat Kenobi with the jump attack.

Speculation. Kenobi has no special durability and we see how weak his flesh is against Grievous.

Dooku can tank attacks but nothing he tanked showed anything durability enhanced. If a light saber hits him it cuts him just like any human being. His skill was still exceptional enough to beat the sisters. He can't just tank their attacks due to his weak durability.

If he says rival then we don't need other words we accept you're a rival. You're tying to change the meaning because you're a dense person. You still don't grasp Windu's win. 😂

Speculation. An akin lost hard to kenobi. Skill wise he lose. Maul wins. Superior with a Saber.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He lacked the skill to defeat Kenobi with the jump attack.

Speculation. Kenobi has no special durability and we see how weak his flesh is against Grievous.

Dooku can tank attacks but nothing he tanked showed anything durability enhanced. If a light saber hits him it cuts him just like any human being. His skill was still exceptional enough to beat the sisters. He can't just tank their attacks due to his weak durability.

If he says rival then we don't need other words we accept you're a rival. You're tying to change the meaning because you're a dense person. You still don't grasp Windu's win. 😂

Speculation. An akin lost hard to kenobi. Skill wise he lose. Maul wins. Superior with a Saber.

No he didn't he just al lacked the tactical positioning. The stunt coordinator himself says Aankin is better than Obi as a duelist. Yes the movie showed Obi won however he didn't win due to greater skill he won due to greater tactical positioning.

No it's not. What humans survive or even come out perfectly fine after beatings like the ones kenobi took. So one kick and you say that the force augmenting his durability doesn't exist? This is why I dont take you seriously. More than one example is greater than one example that is circumstantial as in that one kick he would no doubt put his augmentation toward speed or strenght or stamina to keep him in the fight or hit Grevious before he can move of hit him harder than he normally would.

As he is human however even force augmented humans and even aliens have their limits. If a lightsaber goes through anything even the most solid of objects it will break. Only cortosis will block a lightsaber or another lightsaber or tutamins and possibly electrum and anything using a lightsaber type blade like a light win,or shoot.

A rival in what though. Yes we know Sidious considered him a rival but a rival in what. A rival, faction, a rival duelist, rival force weilder, a rival competitor in a contest/event? That's what I mean. I understand what Sidious said but Sidious definitly didn't consider him a rival in terms of skill. So using process of elimination, there was no contest or event that wa happening that both would be competing in at the same time, you yourself admitted that maul was no match for Sidious in terms of the force, we see Sidious had no problems handling maul in sabers, so,the last logical answer would be as a Sith faction as maul was proclaiming hims led a Sith Lord and his brother was his Sith apprentice, and he and entire crime families at his disposal to take control of an entire plant and the other neutral planets mandalorian spoke for.

False. Anakin is way better with a saber than Maul. He is defiantly better than Qui gon. By the time Obi gets to ROTS he is defiantly better than Qui gon. Obi was able to take out pre and force him to retreat so Anakin could definitly do it. Anakin has been stated to be better than Obi and Obi has demonstrated that he is better or on par with Obi or very slightly better very slightly that it's hard to call. Since Anakin is better than Obi he would defiantly be better than maul.

Anakin is a better fighter than Obi-wan and Maul.

Maul loses this fight badly.