Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) vs Darth Maul

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am referring to the skill to take out someone on the higher ground armed with a saber.

What kicks are you talking about ? They jump and land due to the manipulation of the force not just jumping on their own. 😂

Lots of heroes take kicks and aren't defeated. I agree they take the kicks because they aren't physically impressive for the most part.

You are just speculation and we see a long drawn out fight. He was a rival but palpatone was clearly his superior at this point. He was t some scrub like the weak Jedi masters killed by one slash. Even Opress wasn't killed by one slash and he was defeated easily by Dooku.

They were in combat so this just means they are easily surprised showing poor combat skills. You already claimed Kenobi gets distracted if he disarms his opponents. 😂

Maul skill wise disarmed him whereas Anakin was limb hacked after he was unable to disarm Kenobi for a much longer period of time.

Maul wins.

The fact is he lost due to a tactical disadvantage. That is it.

Getting kicked by other force weilder as pointed out by those examples. They manipulated the force to bolster their durability.

Kicks for,most people aren't game winners. Kicks are just things incorporated into fighting.

Considering Sidious was toying around with them they would last a long time.

I don't claim that. The video showed one example. Also they had her down and she pulled a force choke on them out of no where. Also kenobi is,known,for his weak force wall. Anakin also has demonstrated a weak force wall as well.

Through the force yes. While kenobi was able to take a saber away from maul with his own blade and pure martial skill. Anakin got the better kenobi than maul, and kenobi knew Anakins style inside and out, so of course he wouldn't just be able to out right disarm kenobi. Also weren't both Anakins and obis sabers out of their hands at one point.

False. Anakin

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The fact is he lost due to a tactical disadvantage. That is it.

Getting kicked by other force weilder as pointed out by those examples. They manipulated the force to bolster their durability.

Kicks for,most people aren't game winners. Kicks are just things incorporated into fighting.

Considering Sidious was toying around with them they would last a long time.

I don't claim that. The video showed one example. Also they had her down and she pulled a force choke on them out of no where. Also kenobi is,known,for his weak force wall. Anakin also has demonstrated a weak force wall as well.

Through the force yes. While kenobi was able to take a saber away from maul with his own blade and pure martial skill. Anakin got the better kenobi than maul, and kenobi knew Anakins style inside and out, so of course he wouldn't just be able to out right disarm kenobi. Also weren't both Anakins and obis sabers out of their hands at one point.

False. Anakin

No, since their kicks aren't powerful. Kenobi can't hurt grievous with a kick, sport. 😂

Khan one shot roundhouse kicked guys into submission. She used it in the middle of a fight so you think they can't defend against them. 🙂

Based on ?

Maul has always been skill wise greater than Kenobi. Kenobi crushed due to idiocy and arrogance Anakin. Maul wins against the overconfident fool as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No. He was also moronic enough to attempt it so thus he's an idiot.

No, since their kicks aren't powerful. Kenobi can't hurt grievous with a kick, sport. 😂

Khan one shot roundhouse kicked guys into submission. She used it in the middle of a fight so you think they can't defend against them. 🙂

Based on ?

Maul has always been skill wise greater than Kenobi. Kenobi crushed due to idiocy and arrogance Anakin. Maul wins against the overconfident fool as well.

Concession accepted. You says due to a tactical problem and hi stupidity not lack of skill. Also you can't prove it was lack of skill.

Grevious has armour sport. Armour that allowed him to put a dent in metal. How little you know about Star Wars is appalling. Remove yourself from Star Wars forever.

I'm not saying they can't but they are knowing for weak force shields. Also they had her down and disarmed and it wa two of them with blades. So they no doubt believed she was done.

How people such as Barris and Ventress both weaker in the force than Obi and Anakin were able to push them around.

Opinion as other believe the opposite. Concession accepted as you don't mention lack of skill. You can't say anything about Anakin being stupid and remember the Phantom Menace about how maul lost a lower half.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Concession accepted. You says due to a tactical problem and hi stupidity not lack of skill. Also you can't prove it was lack of skill.

Grevious has armour sport. Armour that allowed him to put a dent in metal. How little you know about Star Wars is appalling. Remove yourself from Star Wars forever.

I'm not saying they can't but they are knowing for weak force shields. Also they had her down and disarmed and it wa two of them with blades. So they no doubt believed she was done.

How people such as Barris and Ventress both weaker in the force than Obi and Anakin were able to push them around.

Opinion as other believe the opposite. Concession accepted as you don't mention lack of skill. You can't say anything about Anakin being stupid and remember the Phantom Menace about how maul lost a lower half.

So if he can amp then why can't he bring the force to damage the armor. Says the guy who doesn't know Lucas own opinion on Windu beating Sidious.

When are they stated to be known for their weak shields ? Back your claim.

She was able to find an opening and have greater Jedi at her mercy. It shows how awful those two are.

Maul is greater skilled with the saber and isn't stupid like Anakin who was warned by his former friend and still attempted anyways.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
All three. I explained why numerous time.

So if he can amp then why can't he bring the force to damage the armor. Says the guy who doesn't know Lucas own opinion on Windu beating Sidious.

When are they stated to be known for their weak shields ? Back your claim.

She was able to find an opening and have greater Jedi at her mercy. It shows how awful those two are.

Maul is greater skilled with the saber and isn't stupid like Anakin who was warned by his former friend and still attempted anyways.

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You never explained lack of skill. You just said he lacked the skill without proving why and then you can't have both the lack of skill and tactical situation in thus situation. Which is it lack of skill or tactical situation.

Considering is very strong armour apparently and has taken off its arms in their previous fight and his armour was made to block attacks and his leg is still a human leg. Whether augmented or not it wouldn't have destroyed his leg as Obi isn't strong enough in the force to augment it to that power. Also his armour is heavily plated and meant to be durable to regular attacks unless from a lightsaber.

Based on there showings. Weaker force weilders have broken through their force shields. Yoda was able to attack Sidiosu with a force push because the two are equals and Sidious no doubt was overconfident just like Sidious.

So there terrible after disarming her and having her at their mercy? You're hopeless.

He got chopped in half. He was stupid. My friend and I rewarded the fight and he agreed with me that maul had time to react or could have cut Obi wan in half. Awful.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You never explained lack of skill. You just said he lacked the skill without proving why and then you can't have both the lack of skill and tactical situation in thus situation. Which is it lack of skill or tactical situation.

Considering is very strong armour apparently and has taken off its arms in their previous fight and his armour was made to block attacks and his leg is still a human leg. Whether augmented or not it wouldn't have destroyed his leg as Obi isn't strong enough in the force to augment it to that power. Also his armour is heavily plated and meant to be durable to regular attacks unless from a lightsaber.

Based on there showings. Weaker force weilders have broken through their force shields. Yoda was able to attack Sidiosu with a force push because the two are equals and Sidious no doubt was overconfident just like Sidious.

So there terrible after disarming her and having her at their mercy? You're hopeless.

He got chopped in half. He was stupid. My friend and I rewarded the fight and he agreed with me that maul had time to react or could have cut Obi wan in half. Awful.

So you agree he can't augment his strength significantly at all since he can't damage grievous. 😂

Yoda had an opening so he took it. He didn't just keep force pushing because timing is crucial.

She saw the opportunity and had them both at her mercy, outside the ship shifting they were done against an inferior opponent.

He skillfully disarmed him and taunted him. Skill wise he proved he had him at his mercy whereas Anakin proved he was stupid against an opponent who tried to spare him.

He was taken by surprise but he lived despite that. Amazing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He lacked the skill to jump over Kenobi and slash at him. It's pretty self evidence unless you're a ten year old.

So you agree he can't augment his strength significantly at all since he can't damage grievous. 😂

Yoda had an opening so he took it. He didn't just keep force pushing because timing is crucial.

She saw the opportunity and had them both at her mercy, outside the ship shifting they were done against an inferior opponent.

He skillfully disarmed him and taunted him. Skill wise he proved he had him at his mercy whereas Anakin proved he was stupid against an opponent who tried to spare him.

He was taken by surprise but he lived despite that. Amazing.

Prove that is the case. Prove that that is the case besides him having a tactical disadvantage.

No. Grevious had very strong armour so not hurting him with a kick is not something to be ashamed of.

Or that's just not how anyone operates.

So was she when they had her disarmed and pinned. Also Anakin could have used a force choke as well as he has the ability and just because your choked doesn't mean you can't do anything.

Obi wans way of disa,ring was much better as he did it with his martial ability instead of his force powers. However maul did disarm him I give him credit for that. However he was stupid to not either just finish Obi wan off or destroy qui gons lightsaber when he and the chance.

He was not caught by suprise he had plenty of time to react. Guess what Vader got three of his limbs cut off and then burned alive and he still walked away. That's amazing.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Prove that is the case. Prove that that is the case besides him having a tactical disadvantage.

No. Grevious had very strong armour so not hurting him with a kick is not something to be ashamed of.

Or that's just not how anyone operates.

So was she when they had her disarmed and pinned. Also Anakin could have used a force choke as well as he has the ability and just because your choked doesn't mean you can't do anything.

Obi wans way of disa,ring was much better as he did it with his martial ability instead of his force powers. However maul did disarm him I give him credit for that. However he was stupid to not either just finish Obi wan off or destroy qui gons lightsaber when he and the chance.

He was not caught by suprise he had plenty of time to react. Guess what Vader got three of his limbs cut off and then burned alive and he still walked away. That's amazing.

So he can't amp his durability. Good.

So you feel he wouldn't do an effective attack due to the circumstances ? Do you drool often ?

He was at her mercy and not fighting back. She had both at her mercy. 😂

We already knew kenobi lived so there was never going to be a time we thought kenobi would die. He was superior skill wise and continued to be such in the clone series.

He was caught by surprised backed by the facial expression. You're really a dense guy.

Because sheev showed up and personally saved him. Maul didn't need someone to save him. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact obi cut him down. Claim backed.

So he can't amp his durability. Good.

So you feel he wouldn't do an effective attack due to the circumstances ? Do you drool often ?

He was at her mercy and not fighting back. She had both at her mercy. 😂

We already knew kenobi lived so there was never going to be a time we thought kenobi would die. He was superior skill wise and continued to be such in the clone series.

He was caught by surprised backed by the facial expression. You're really a dense guy.

Because sheev showed up and personally saved him. Maul didn't need someone to save him. 😂

Wrong try again. That proves by claim as it shows a situational problem and tactical problem not skill. This point is done. Good job you big dummy.

Of course he can. He's done it plenty of times.

Circumstances make up a battle even though you refuse to,ignore them.

They had her at their mercy. So what? 😂

During the phantom menace maul was better. However during the clone wars kenobi either became his equal or got better as maul had lost his training while kenobi was still improving.

No. That's the facial expression of someone who just got cut in half. He wasn't suprised because he saw kenobi jump and he could have jumped up or moved to the left. No you're just a fanboy.

The fact that Vader didn't die right then and their shows great durability and power. Actually maul had help form his brother and mother talzin and I believe death watch. Also,Sidious,didn't personally saved him. He was personally saved by the robots that installed his suit. Get the facts straight.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Wrong try again. That proves by claim as it shows a situational problem and tactical problem not skill. This point is done. Good job you big dummy.

Of course he can. He's done it plenty of times.

Circumstances make up a battle even though you refuse to,ignore them.

They had her at their mercy. So what? 😂

During the phantom menace maul was better. However during the clone wars kenobi either became his equal or got better as maul had lost his training while kenobi was still improving.

No. That's the facial expression of someone who just got cut in half. He wasn't suprised because he saw kenobi jump and he could have jumped up or moved to the left. No you're just a fanboy.

The fact that Vader didn't die right then and their shows great durability and power. Actually maul had help form his brother and mother talzin and I believe death watch. Also,Sidious,didn't personally saved him. He was personally saved by the robots that installed his suit. Get the facts straight.

When ?

So you admit Anakin can't just force choke her at his mercy whenever he wants. Point proven.

After the ship moved breaking her concentration but prior to that they were unable to break free from her force choke.

I didn't say Sidious personally created the suit but he was there with the appropriate help nearby. He isn't a Khan and can't save people by a blood transfusion. Sheev is someone who relies on others far too often. I agree. Vader burned quite easily proving he had no special durability.

Maul wasn't saved right there and you're speculating. Vader was saved right after as he laid there helpless.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
It proved he lacked the skill to clear kenobi and then defend himself. Point proven.

When ?

So you admit Anakin can't just force choke her at his mercy whenever he wants. Point proven.

After the ship moved breaking her concentration but prior to that they were unable to break free from her force choke.

I didn't say Sidious personally created the suit but he was there with the appropriate help nearby. He isn't a Khan and can't save people by a blood transfusion. Sheev is someone who relies on others far too often. I agree. Vader burned quite easily proving he had no special durability.

Maul wasn't saved right there and you're speculating. Vader was saved right after as he laid there helpless.

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It proved that by kenobi being in a tactical position he was to catch Anakin. So with that his problems are because of a situational/tactical disadvantage.

Oh with his several beatings throughout the clone wars. How he's able to jump from high buildings without issue, and take physical hits from Grevious which were capable of denting a space ship.

1) when was that ever a point? 2) I never agreed to that) 3) if force choked her he would have her at her mercy. 4) he's more powerful than Ventress and telekinetic Sheilds can be broken by someone powerful enough as seen by how Dooku was Able to tank a telekinetic sand storm sent by Anakin and how he was Abel to,break through Anakins, obis, and Ventress force Sheilds. So with that after a decent duel or even before Anakin has the ability to,force choke her.

Again doesn't detract from hem having her at their mercy prior to that.

Sidious doesn't need blood transfusions he has the force. He can force heal and has some skill with midiclorian manipulation however not to the extent of Plagueis. Sheev didn't need help when he took out 3 highly skilled Jedi masters, took out maul and savage by himself, stale mating yoda and windu. He is placed in circumstances where he needs stuff done through others. Such as orchestrating the war he needed people with financial resources and someone to head his army so he could break it down and take it, the clones to become storm troopers, all circumstance.

So you admit he was saved. Speculating about what? Vader was saved the moment after he survived being burned alive and losing 3 limbs.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It proved that by kenobi being in a tactical position he was to catch Anakin. So with that his problems are because of a situational/tactical disadvantage.

Oh with his several beatings throughout the clone wars. How he's able to jump from high buildings without issue, and take physical hits from Grevious which were capable of denting a space ship.

1) when was that ever a point? 2) I never agreed to that) 3) if force choked her he would have her at her mercy. 4) he's more powerful than Ventress and telekinetic Sheilds can be broken by someone powerful enough as seen by how Dooku was Able to tank a telekinetic sand storm sent by Anakin and how he was Abel to,break through Anakins, obis, and Ventress force Sheilds. So with that after a decent duel or even before Anakin has the ability to,force choke her.

Again doesn't detract from hem having her at their mercy prior to that.

Sidious doesn't need blood transfusions he has the force. He can force heal and has some skill with midiclorian manipulation however not to the extent of Plagueis. Sheev didn't need help when he took out 3 highly skilled Jedi masters, took out maul and savage by himself, stale mating yoda and windu. He is placed in circumstances where he needs stuff done through others. Such as orchestrating the war he needed people with financial resources and someone to head his army so he could break it down and take it, the clones to become storm troopers, all circumstance.

So you admit he was saved. Speculating about what? Vader was saved the moment after he survived being burned alive and losing 3 limbs.

So ? He obviously didn't hit kenobi as hard as the ship. Kenobi hurt his own weak leg kicking Grievous.

He didn't. Speculation. Anakin was at her mercy. It shows they were not that formidable to let an inferior opponent to both for her to have them at her mercy. Simply pathetic Jedi.

Neither does Khan you idiot. Khan can save lives with his blood alone. Sidious by your own admission can't save shit and needs others to do it for him. Pathetic. The force can't save them either.
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Sheev needed help against Windu. He begged Anakin two help him. What about a worthless beggar. Khan would crush his geriatric skull.

I want you to back your claim. You keep speculating. Anakin was but it wasn't the first time. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
And that Anakin lacked the skill for the maneuver.

So ? He obviously didn't hit kenobi as hard as the ship. Kenobi hurt his own weak leg kicking Grievous.

He didn't. Speculation. Anakin was at her mercy. It shows they were not that formidable to let an inferior opponent to both for her to have them at her mercy. Simply pathetic Jedi.

Neither does Khan you idiot. Khan can save lives with his blood alone. Sidious by your own admission can't save shit and needs others to do it for him. Pathetic. The force can't save them either.
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Sheev needed help against Windu. He begged Anakin two help him. What about a worthless beggar. Khan would crush his geriatric skull.

I want you to back your claim. You keep speculating. Anakin was but it wasn't the first time. 😂

False. I've already proven its a situational/tactical problem. He didn't lack the skill to complete the manuver as he had a situational obstacle that he couldn't overcome.

He did hit kenobi hard enough to human standards and what makes you think he didn't hit kenobi that hard. He also took several hits and a kick from Grevious and he was just fine.

Yet they had her at their mercy twice. Also if she could just have them at their mercy at her will than why didn't she do it the second time when she was pinned and when they weren't looking used the force to push them away or something.

Don't get mad at me because of your words. You Sidious can't save people through blood transfusions. That's what you said I can repost the quote later if you need proof. I've proved he doesn't need help to do things. He didn't need help when he manipulated the entire senate in the first place. He didn't need help stringing together some events. He didn't help to take out maul and savage or 3 highly trained Jedi and keep up with yoda and mace and really don't need help against mace either. Sidious is just placed in political situations to where he has to have certain things. Sidious didn't need help when he studied the dark side by ROTJ thus becoming extremely powerful.

Sheev didn't needed help against Windu. I've stated this with evidence over and over again. He could have killed windu if he wanted to.

In the episode where savage finds maul he is found crazy and psycho and scarred. In the following episode I believe or that same episode savage takes him to mother talzin who fixes him. Gives him new legs and gives him back his sanity. https://youtu.be/QWPPffAmujM in this video talzin saves him. https://youtu.be/YN9srwHTltk in this video savage finds a broken maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
False. I've already proven its a situational/tactical problem. He didn't lack the skill to complete the manuver as he had a situational obstacle that he couldn't overcome.

He did hit kenobi hard enough to human standards and what makes you think he didn't hit kenobi that hard. He also took several hits and a kick from Grevious and he was just fine.

Yet they had her at their mercy twice. Also if she could just have them at their mercy at her will than why didn't she do it the second time when she was pinned and when they weren't looking used the force to push them away or something.

Don't get mad at me because of your words. You Sidious can't save people through blood transfusions. That's what you said I can repost the quote later if you need proof. I've proved he doesn't need help to do things. He didn't need help when he manipulated the entire senate in the first place. He didn't need help stringing together some events. He didn't help to take out maul and savage or 3 highly trained Jedi and keep up with yoda and mace and really don't need help against mace either. Sidious is just placed in political situations to where he has to have certain things. Sidious didn't need help when he studied the dark side by ROTJ thus becoming extremely powerful.

Sheev didn't needed help against Windu. I've stated this with evidence over and over again. He could have killed windu if he wanted to.

In the episode where savage finds maul he is found crazy and psycho and scarred. In the following episode I believe or that same episode savage takes him to mother talzin who fixes him. Gives him new legs and gives him back his sanity. https://youtu.be/QWPPffAmujM in this video talzin saves him. https://youtu.be/YN9srwHTltk in this video savage finds a broken maul.

Kenobi was hurt and had to rely on a gun to fire on his weak heart to win. Weak.

He should have an inferior opponent at his mercy. Two superiors bs one inferior opponent but she still had them both at her mercy. 😂

Sidious can't. Khan can. You agreed Sidious needs others to save Vader since he's an incompetent fool who can't do what Khan does. Sheev didn't need help taking out inferior opponents but he needed help against Windu. Whoops. He also needed help manipulating the senators the entire time. He wasn't alone in his plans.

Yes, he did since he says so. On screen proof >>>>your baseless theories. 💃

So you agree Maul wasn't saved after he was cut in half which I was referring to. He survived that on his own. Anakin needed help after Kenobi roasted him.

Maul will fall to the most gifted Jedi ever.

Originally posted by playa1258
Maul will fall to the most gifted Jedi ever.

Maul beats him worse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He lacked the skill to overcome the situational obstacle. 😂

Kenobi was hurt and had to rely on a gun to fire on his weak heart to win. Weak.

He should have an inferior opponent at his mercy. Two superiors bs one inferior opponent but she still had them both at her mercy. 😂

Sidious can't. Khan can. You agreed Sidious needs others to save Vader since he's an incompetent fool who can't do what Khan does. Sheev didn't need help taking out inferior opponents but he needed help against Windu. Whoops. He also needed help manipulating the senators the entire time. He wasn't alone in his plans.

Yes, he did since he says so. On screen proof >>>>your baseless theories. 💃

So you agree Maul wasn't saved after he was cut in half which I was referring to. He survived that on his own. Anakin needed help after Kenobi roasted him.

False it was solely a situational issue.

Momentarily wasn't a permanent thing. He defeated Grevious skill wise in lightsaber combat and had him pinned for a while with the staff, then opened up his chest.

Anakin had Ventress down at one point in one of their duels. Had her beaten.

I said based on the political situations he is in he has to have certain things.
He doesn't just need help for everything. He didn't NEED hep against windu. He could have easily taken out windu without help. Fact. You're terrible at this.

Manipulation. I go based on facts and facts show me he doesn't need help as he had windu at sword point and could have stabbed him through hi heart.

Maul was saved by talzin. Point proven.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, kenobi straight beat him.

Maul beats him worse.

Anakin was far superior to any Jedi at his age. He was barely over 21 in ROTS.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
False it was solely a situational issue.

Momentarily wasn't a permanent thing. He defeated Grevious skill wise in lightsaber combat and had him pinned for a while with the staff, then opened up his chest.

Anakin had Ventress down at one point in one of their duels. Had her beaten.

I said based on the political situations he is in he has to have certain things.
He doesn't just need help for everything. He didn't NEED hep against windu. He could have easily taken out windu without help. Fact. You're terrible at this.

Manipulation. I go based on facts and facts show me he doesn't need help as he had windu at sword point and could have stabbed him through hi heart.

Maul was saved by talzin. Point proven.

He was disarmed. Grievous isn't very skilled with sabers.

She is inferior she's supposed to lose but she had both he and Kenobi at her mercy.

He said he needed help against Windu. He begged for it. Speculation which goes against movie statements. 😂

Not after his body was cut in half. You repeat yourself when you can't rebut like a moron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So he lacked the skill to overcome that situation, loser.

He was disarmed. Grievous isn't very skilled with sabers.

She is inferior she's supposed to lose but she had both he and Kenobi at her mercy.

He said he needed help against Windu. He begged for it. Speculation which goes against movie statements. 😂

Not after his body was cut in half. You repeat yourself when you can't rebut like a moron.

No he couldnt overcome that.

It just shows kenobi was better. He has many Jedi kills and I believe he is better than Ventress that's why he's the general of the droid army.

Irrelevant as she dead now. They also did have her at their mercy.

Faker. What part of throwing the fight and being a master manipulator don't you understand. He was faking weakness during that point as confirmed by Lucas. So is it speculation he had windu at sword point. Answer this question and I have all I need to know.

I repeat myself because it's the correct response and you deny it. She gave him back his sanity and a good pair of legs and with that his skill. She saved him as proven by the video I sent you.