Thanos vs Supermans

Originally posted by Surtur
Superman as of the last 20-25 years didn't bust out anywhere near the amount of plot device powers as he used to. Thor always carries around a plot device hammer that allows him to fight way outside his weight class.

The "plot device" powers you mentioned are usually 1 time things for Superman.

Originally posted by Surtur
Not only that, but Thor lacks any sort of weakness to magic, Superman doesn't. Thor doesn't just fight magical beings, but it's a thing he does more then Superman. So yeah, just all in all going "Superman can beat anyone Thor can" doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Surtur
Either way this is moot, this isn't about Thor, who managed to do all of give Thanos a bloody nose even though he had the power gem. He's not the best person to use as a reason why Superman wins. The fact is Superman isn't putting down someone who can survive the shit Thanos does..before Thanos uses telepathy or transmutation. Hell he could teleport Superman to another galaxy with a point of his finger.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not only is ODG right in the post you quoted.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is far faster than Thanos and can perceive Thanos moving in slow motion. Superman is physically stronger as well (when he let's loose).
This combination makes the fight easy for Superman.

Just imagine if you were Superman fighting Thanos. But when Thanos moves you see it happening in slow motion. You also have the strength to ko Thanos after multiple hits. Would you win easily?

You keep saying this crap, but Superman never displays this slow motion fighting skill you praise upon all the time. He gets hit in every comic and a fight with Thanos would be no different. Gladiator and Surfer have the same speed characteristics as Superman, but we all know how that turns out when they go up against Thanos. Thanos is also one of the most durable characters I've ever seen. Sure Superman could KO him with punches, but it would take many, many, many punches and the only problem with that is that Thanos will be punching back.

Superman would best be served by his speed advantage to go and get backup because he isn't winning this fight. Thanos is a notch or two above what the big S can take.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Why do ppl even bother with h1, he still lies about stuff even when he's constantly corrected.

I know. I really need to stop.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's a whole lot of words without answering the question.

I mean since you know, Darkseid who was the source of this anomaly is right there with them.

He was taking them to the black hole at the end of creation where Mandrakk was. Green Lanterns felt it, it caused space time to fracture and entire universes were destroyed because of it.

But it didn't cause any trouble to people who were actually *in* it like Superman.

Simply pathetic way to handwave a feat.

Originally posted by One-Punch
The Omega sanctions transported Batman to the past in that scene. But before that, Batman was still standing in the same room as Darkseid, who according to you was in the center a singularity. How is Batman, who's only human, not affected by being inside this"multiversal" black hole?

Originally posted by One-Punch
The Omega sanctions transported Batman to the past in that scene. But before that, Batman was still standing in the same room as Darkseid, who according to you was in the center a singularity. How is Batman, who's only human, not affected by being inside this"multiversal" black hole?

Because it was Darkseid's human host Dan Turpin. And the earth hadn't fell into black hole yet.

Why did Superman shrink down entire universe for protection if there was no danger and "Batman could stand in the black hole which destroyed entire universes “?

Originally posted by ODG
Edited for relevancy and truthiness. 👆

Nah, all of it was.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is far faster than Thanos and can perceive Thanos moving in slow motion. Superman is physically stronger as well (when he let's loose).
This combination makes the fight easy for Superman.

Just imagine if you were Superman fighting Thanos. But when Thanos moves you see it happening in slow motion. You also have the strength to ko Thanos after multiple hits. Would you win easily?

Again with this slow motion nonsense. Surfer dosent see him in slow motion,gladiaror dosent see him in slow motion,superman won't. Superman is not stronger either. Nor can he knock out thanos who is capable of taking shots from odin,without even using shields. Thanos shits on supes the sane way he does surfer and glads. Supes gets tagged everyday,so cut the slow motion crap. Thanos has reacted to attacks from cosmic levels,let alone superman. This not even countin his other 'tricks'

I think h1 is using the Deathstroke/Flash argument.

So Deathstroke tags Flash, multiple occurrences of this, actually - but nobody here will say Deathstroke would tag Surfer in a forum fight.

If we replace Thanos with Deathstroke, and Surfer with Flash - that's the argument he's trying to make.

Note, I am NOT saying Thanos has Deathstroke level speed, lol. Only that the analogy is being applied.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think h1 is using the Deathstroke/Flash argument.

So Deathstroke tags Flash, multiple occurrences of this, actually - but nobody here will say Deathstroke would tag Surfer in a forum fight.

If we replace Thanos with Deathstroke, and Surfer with Flash - that's the argument he's trying to make.

Note, I am NOT saying Thanos has Deathstroke level speed, lol. Only that the analogy is being applied.

Understood, but if it were true, they would portray it in the comics. It may just be that Thanos, and super-humanly strong characters are simply also super fast, and have super fast reaction times.

Originally posted by Genii96
Again with this slow motion nonsense. Surfer dosent see him in slow motion,gladiaror dosent see him in slow motion,superman won't. Superman is not stronger either. Nor can he knock out thanos who is capable of taking shots from odin,without even using shields. Thanos shits on supes the sane way he does surfer and glads. Supes gets tagged everyday,so cut the slow motion crap. Thanos has reacted to attacks from cosmic levels,let alone superman. This not even countin his other 'tricks'

Agreed.

Originally posted by Genii96
Superman is not stronger either.

Prove that Thanos is stronger using canon, please.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Prove that Thanos is stronger using canon, please.

Don't care either way, but can Superman be proved to be stronger though? Nope

Its cute that DC gives Superman all these strength feats with numbers associated with them, but who says Thanos cant do the same? He seems to have no issues at all with Marvels strongest characters.

Originally posted by tkitna
Don't care either way, but can Superman be proved to be stronger though? Nope

Its cute that DC gives Superman all these strength feats with numbers associated with them, but who says Thanos cant do the same? He seems to have no issues at all with Marvels strongest characters.

lol so no feats? gotcha

We have to use Thanos victories or the casual manner hes defeated some of the strongest heroes to determine his strength. Name the last time you saw a villain benchpressing a mountain for no reason.

Originally posted by tkitna
Don't care either way, but can Superman be proved to be stronger though? Nope

Its cute that DC gives Superman all these strength feats with numbers associated with them, but who says Thanos cant do the same? He seems to have no issues at all with Marvels strongest characters.

Thank you. I can't believe people really don't consider the difference in the two comicbook universes. Marvel was never about sucking off one dominant character, so mulitple strength feats over decades wasn't a priority. It was was the highest priority for years in D.C., however.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
We have to use Thanos victories or the casual manner hes defeated some of the strongest heroes to determine his strength. Name the last time you saw a villain benchpressing a mountain for no reason.

Bravo. Imagine how ****ing PETTY it would be to see Thanos bench pressing a star.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
We have to use Thanos victories or the casual manner hes defeated some of the strongest heroes to determine his strength. Name the last time you saw a villain benchpressing a mountain for no reason.

Name a time Thanos ripped apart a Herald level character with his bare hands after getting increasingly weakened by the same Herald level character absorbing his power.

Anyone thinking Superman can't give Thanos a fight is ludicrous. Anyone thinking Superman can beat Thanos is insane.

Superman shouldn't beat Thanos straight up. Just like he shouldn't beat Darkseid straight up.

But if anybody in Herald tier can beat Thanos, it's Superman. Obviously as a hero with hundreds of appearances he gas his share of low showings which in Thanos case get retconned away.

But at his best, he is damn near unbeatable.

srug

Well this is an interesting thread