Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So 25% of writers over 75% of writters? That is not standard.The rule is based on the 75% not on the exception
Wrong, that isn't how it works. Point me to the wording in the rules that says this. The reality is, YES those 25% are just as canon as the 75% no matter how much you don't want it to be so. It's a fact. They can't be just discounted as if they don't exist. Doesn't work that way.
Originally posted by One-Punch
That black hole didn't start off at solar system busting mass. It was the size of a marble and was barely warping the room (which Batman was in) when Superman contained it. Superman deliberately stopped it from growing that large.Against a fully formed black hole, Superman was helpless and nearly killed.
I think his Hasselhoff hair weighed more.
Originally posted by One-Punch
That black hole didn't start off at solar system busting mass. It was the size of a marble and was barely warping the room (which Batman was in) when Superman contained it. Superman deliberately stopped it from growing that large.Against a fully formed black hole, Superman was helpless and nearly killed.
LOL. A black hole is a singularity (the size of an molecule or less) with the mass of many stars. There is no such thing as a solar system sized black hole or even a marble sized black hole.
Superman shielded the black hole with his hands. That's why it only warped the room a little with Batman in it.
Originally posted by h1a8
LOL. A black hole is a singularity (the size of an molecule or less) with the mass of many stars. There is no such thing as a solar system sized black hole or even a marble sized black hole.Superman shielded the black hole with his hands. That's why it only warped the room a little with Batman in it.
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I like how H1 pretends like he knows what he's talking about.
The size of the black hole's event horizon is related to it's mass. Smaller mass = smaller event horizon, bigger mass = bigger event horizon
All matter in a black hole is squeezed into a region of infinitely small volume, called the central singularity. The event horizon is an imaginary sphere that measures how close to the singularity you can safely get. Once you have passed the event horizon, it becomes impossible to escape: you will be drawn in by the black hole's gravitational pull and squashed into the singularity.The size of the event horizon (called the Schwarzschild radius, after the German physicist who discovered it while fighting in the first World War) is proportional to the mass of the black hole. Astronomers have found black holes with event horizons ranging from 6 miles to the size of our solar system. But in principle, black holes can exist with even smaller or larger horizons. By comparison, the Schwarzschild radius of the Earth is about the size of a marble. This is how much you would have to compress the Earth to turn it into a black hole. A black hole doesn't have to be very massive, but it does need to be very compact!
http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/encyc_mod3_q3.html
In fact, black holes have different size classifications based on their mass.
H1 claiming there's no such thing as different sized black holes is just pure and utter BS.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wrong, that isn't how it works. Point me to the wording in the rules that says this. The reality is, YES those 25% are just as canon as the 75% no matter how much you don't want it to be so. It's a fact. They can't be just discounted as if they don't exist. Doesn't work that way.
So you want to rely your argument based on the exeption but not in the rule?
Hopefully you will be honest enough to do it on both sides.
Most writers have portrayed superman under the depiction of having a psionic power.
Actually I will go as far as to say that 90% of them have done it at some point oor in some story.
But like I said if you want to rely your argument on the exeption is fine is not like you will be the first one doing it.
Originally posted by One-Punch
That black hole didn't start off at solar system busting mass. It was the size of a marble and was barely warping the room (which Batman was in) when Superman contained it. Superman deliberately stopped it from growing that large.Against a fully formed black hole, Superman was helpless and nearly killed.
I honestly dont have energy nor time or desire to enter into a nitpicking argument.
A black hole has certain mass based on the amount of time it has been alive independently of its size.
If a black hole has survived for millions of years it means it has the mass to do it.
If a black hole it is stated to be solar system destroyer it means it has the mass to do it.
You should google mass on black holes no amount of nitpicking changes or denies the feat.
You might check the other instances where superman has survived black holes btw
There is an article in which they talk about black holes the size of plancton created on earth but they don't have enough mass to live long enough to be a danger to earth, they evaporate for the lack of mass.
A microscopic black hole with the mass of mount everest compress onto a miceoscopic size will be enough mass to destroy earth littlw by little.
The sun if it were converted into a black does notbhave enough mass to destroy earth. If our sun went black hole earth will die for the lack of sun not because the black hole devour it.
This black hole was estated to be a solar system buster that has been around for thousands of years.
Info so people can make up their own mind
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
There is an article in which they talk about black holes the size of plancton created on earth but they don't have enough mass to live long enough to be a danger to earth, they evaporate for the lack of mass.A microscopic black hole with the mass of mount everest compress onto a miceoscopic size will be enough mass to destroy earth littlw by little.
The sun if it were converted into a black does notbhave enough mass to destroy earth. If our sun went black hole earth will die for the lack of sun not because the black hole devour it.
This black hole was estated to be a solar system buster that has been around for thousands of years.
Info so people can make up their own mind
I've made up my mind that you h1, Abby and Boardwalk refuse to go by averages like the fanatics you are and discussions with members of your fringe group are pointless outside of the mild entertainment value it offers.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I've made up my mind that you h1, Abby and Boardwalk refuse to go by averages like the fanatics you are and discussions with members of your fringe group are pointless outside of the mild entertainment value it offers.
Someone once told me "No te puedes pasar la vida civilizando pendejos" best advice ever 🙂
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Someone once told me "No te puedes pasar la vida civilizando pendejos" best advice ever 🙂
That was not meant for you my friend raisen 🙂 you know you and I are in good terms.
I know I have the facts on my side to protect my point of view I just don't have the time nor the need nor the will to build up my case.
A good argument is time consuming and I don't have that luxury right now.
But just to be clear that phrase I wrote was only directed at blueareavet and no one else
Originally posted by One-Punch
That black hole didn't start off at solar system busting mass. It was the size of a marble and was barely warping the room (which Batman was in) when Superman contained it. Superman deliberately stopped it from growing that large.Against a fully formed black hole, Superman was helpless and nearly killed.
But you're just going to ignore all scans, don't you?
Lightray said they would die. Its also a weaker Superman. But tell me, do you accept Surfer saying that a black hole would've killed him?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer gets owned by a black hole"Almost crushed to nothingness".
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mmm
Surfer didn't say he was almost crushed to nothing in that scan, Nova did. Surfer was caught in the Black Hole but doesn't look like he suffered any damage or was in any pain during the time. Surfer actually has a "feat" of being inside the center of a black hole an suffered no damage there either....
hmm
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Surfer didn't say he was almost crushed to nothing in that scan, Nova did. Surfer was caught in the Black Hole but doesn't look like he suffered any damage or was in any pain during the time. Surfer actually has a "feat" of being inside the center of a black hole an suffered no damage there either....hmm
Superman has too. A multiversal black hole, a double black hole and a machine simulating the gravity of a black hole.
Superman actually got more powerful than before. What's surfer's excuse?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer directly says that they were saved by Galactus. Nova said they were almost crushed to nothingness.Superman has too. A multiversal black hole, a double black hole and a machine simulating the gravity of a black hole. So, Nova made ab assumption.
Superman actually got more powerful than before. What's surfer's excuse?
Yes, they did get saved by Galactus. That in no way means they were almost crushed to death. They just didnt know what would have happened had they got completely sucked in.
Don't recall Superman ever being in the center of one, scans?
Why would he need an excuse? Nova assumed they'd be crushed to nothingness, but neither of them really suffered any damage. When Surfer actually did get sucked into the heart of a Black Hole, he didn't suffer any damage or even got affected by it. Essentially, Nova was wrong.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yes, they did get saved by Galactus. That in no way means they were almost crushed to death. They just didnt know what would have happened had they got completely sucked in.Don't recall Superman ever being in the center of one, scans?
Why would he need an excuse? Nova assumed they'd be crushed to nothingness, but neither of them really suffered any damage. When Surfer actually did get sucked into the heart of a Black Hole, he didn't suffer any damage or even got affected by it. Essentially, Nova was wrong.
Final Crisis. Read it. Also.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability1.jpg
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Except, it wasn't an assumption. They were almost crushed to nothingness, later when Surfer tried to go in the black hole again, he was knocked out and threw in a different dimension.
And after that he was so afraid that he asked for Lord Order and Master Chaos to help him cross the black hole.
So, no he wasn't "not affected". That's just an asinine thing to say.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Nova said they were. Mind you, Superman never said he was going to ge crushed in the black hole. It was Lightray. And why the need of saving if you are not in trouble? Surfer even says that "it will be a fitting end" for his life.Final Crisis. Read it. Also.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability3.jpg
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http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability6.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/doubleblackholedurability7.jpghttp://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/youngsupesbh1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/youngsupesbh2.jpgExcept, it wasn't an assumption. They were almost crushed to nothingness, later when Surfer tried to go in the black hole again, he was knocked out and threw in a different dimension.
And after that he was so afraid that he asked for Lord Order and Master Chaos to help him cross the black hole.
So, no he wasn't "not affected". That's just an asinine thing to say.
Nova doesn't have the same level of knowledge as the Surfer has, so her being wrong isn't really far fetched. Also, character -assumptions- <<<<< "feats" and "showings". This doesn't even need to be said.
I am familiar with that "double bh" scan. That's not being at the center of a black hole tho, at least I don't see where it's being mentioned that it's the center of one, more like within the edge of the event horizon (within it's Schwarzschild radius as per scan).
Second scan is Superman getting hit by a grav field that (from character statements) mentioned that it would be similar to a black hole, not really an actual bh.
Her very statement was an assumption. The very nature of saying "almost" is to assume what could have happened. Like "almost getting hit" doesn't really mean you would have gotten hit. You just assumed you would have.
http://i.imgur.com/61ywrX9.jpg
Sure doesn't look very owned by a black hole to me....
If you posted a scan of Surfer being KO'd by a BH and said that it was him being "owned" by one (like you say he was, scans tho?), wouldn't have posted in the first place, as you'd be right. The above scan you posted, however? Is far from getting owned by one.
