Exar Kun vs. Palpatine

Started by Deronn_solo44 pages

Either way.

Originally posted by SunRazer
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So what's the deal with complaining about Disney accolades, lol?


They shouldn't be used to support Sidious' dick in a Legends match-up. It's just something that's part of Disney canon. And did I mention the Sheevite writers?
And after all these post-comments; it should be pretty obvious that Exar Kun stomps Palpatine.
If it is easy for Kun, maybe not.
But take it this way(I might write a fanfic duel lol)
You have Sidious in ROTS and instead of Yoda. Exar appears.
Now think of Exar Kun as a Darth Vader; because obviously he is an evil rip-off Vader without armor. But this Vader is just, literally, a Force beast(even in the physical sense of word), equipped with amulets(even without them, he can use those blasts according to the Jedi Academy Trilogy)
And Sidious right now faces someone who is not a Jedi(a pushover, fearing the dark side) but a fully-fledged Dark Lord. You can't know how would Sidious react. Because he has never been in such a position. All of his enemies(except Yoda<<still equal ground>> or Luke<<but on a dark side nexus{Eclipse}, enhancing his Force connection and hindering Luke's>>, Windu<<debateable. But it was a 50-50 situation. Windu defeated Sidious in the first part of their duel. But Sidious could keep on when was disarmed after Anakin showed up, but played the weak old man to make him his Sithy *****>>😉 were just inferior to him.

For the second part(off-topic)
What advantages Exar Kun has over Sidious?
1. Kun(because he is young) has already an overwhelming physical force(that means he won't use the Force to bolster his body) wasting his Force reserves
2. Kun has an unorthodox fighting style and a unique lightsabre. He seems to have a unique lightsabre style of his own. A style, Sidious does not know of. Kun seems to utilize a variant of Niman/Juyo=Nimuyo?
Kun already knows the Niman form according to various sources(so he must be proficient in the other as well) given how much he has sparred with Vodo(and that he calls him his best student in hundreds of years) which should compensate for Sidious' so-called 'ambidextrously' lightsabre talent. But I still doubt of that TCW Insider as Sidious is more of a Sith 'Consular'(even his training under Plagueis was disdainful when it came about lightsabres. Not to mention that even his apprentices always trained alone with robots. Even in TFU, Sidious uses the Force to fight Malek instead using his lightsabre. Or against Yoda, or the Brothers<<Maul and Opress>>😉
So you have all these instances where Sidious resorts to Force to dominate his opponents. Therefore, I call that TCW Star Wars Insider as an 'official crap' written by a Sheev fanboy.
So it's to safe to say that, even if Sidious is a Juyo Master(he can't just switch from one form to another as he pleases to)
3. Kun has a similar technique used by Zannah in DoE to summon Dark Side tendrils. Something that Sidious is not aware of. He's not aware of many things even when he smokes the Dark Side and gets visions.
4. Exar knows Force drain; and used it against Force-sensitives(his Massassi); Sidious just used it against featless nonfactor unknown people on Byss{and it was slow} But at this point; Sidious has not used Force drain. And it is safe to say that he hasn't any Force drain immunity, unlike Kun who(might have) given that Ulic knew a counter for it against the Dark Reaper. It would be nonsensical to say that Kun does not have it. So Kun could just suck the life out of Palpatine.
5. Kun(due to his unique lightsabre) could trick Sidious during their duel(shortening or increasing the blade's length) if he catches him into a 'dramatic pose'(if they lightsabres clash in an X) And it will happen here, nonetheless.
6. Exar Kun also uses his lightsaber style and his Force abilities in-between moments whereas Sidious mostly resorts to using the Force to dominate his opponents(his counterpart would be Yoda)
7. Kun is just too unpredictable in combat. That's why no one ever claimed a victory against him(not even a 600 years old experienced Jedi Weapon Battlemaster when Kun was nothing more but a Jedi Padawan) It's not like Ulic was a pushover either when it came about being on the battlefield.
Imagine this scenario:
They draw their lightsabres out*
Both jump at each other*
They clash their sabers in an X*
Kun Force-pushes Palpatine and slams him like Yoda did*
Palpatine gets up and Force lightning's Kun*
Kun uses his lightsaber to repel the attack*
Kun throws another Force-push against Sidious*
Kun runs to attack Sidious*
Sidious Force-pushes Kun too*
Sidious then tries to Force-choke Kun to death*
Kun uses his saber(it fell down) via TK and throws it in Palpatine*
Palpatine release him to avoid the deadly blow*
Kun uses this time a Force blast to hit Sidious*
Sidious evades*
Kun lashes at him with(Saiyan look) to end him*
They clash again in X*
Kun uses his overwhelming physical strength to best Sidious*
Sidious still stands, yet*
Sidious is overwhelmed physically by Kun and doesn't want to waste his Force reserves, so he jumps back, away from Kun*
Kun uses another Force blast and hits Sidious*
This time, Kun uses his power in Jedi Academy to rip Sidious' soul from his body(via Dark Tendrils) and kills him, sending Sidious' spirit into Chaos*

Conclusion:
You have two Sith Lords from different eras with different requirements for being a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Ancient Sith:
Make your way to top via your own Force strength(whether it is natural or stolen) against other contenders
Watch your back
Train, train, train to keep your position(Kun trained as a Jedi too)
Destroy your enemies and crush them via face-to-face
Banite Sith:
You must be two
Be cunning, deceitful
Crave knowledge(power) from your Master
Kill them when YOU think that they are no longer useful to you(no matter what means you use) If they didn't see it. They must be weak
Get into damn politics and fool everyone in the Republic and topple the Jedi Order from within and CONQUER THE GALAXY

Oh, look who's back.

Nadd is like a diet, zero calorie, Nai.

Okay, I seriously thought that was a poem or something for a moment.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nadd is like a diet, zero calorie, Nai.

Why bringing Nai into this?
You will never turn me to the troll side, Sit Lord.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Oh, look who's back.

It has been a long time. My furryous old friend.

The champion we need in the dark times of the Sheevites Nadd has returned. It's time to bring down the Palpatine establishment that has poisoned the Internet for a decade my friend.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Okay, I seriously thought that was a poem or something for a moment.

Oh, c'mere.

Love
The saddest thing I see—
People who walk, not knowing where they are
Wanderers, dropped on this earth by mistake
Empty eyes, like pebbles, dropped in a lake.
They see only images
A dim outline in the fog of appearance.
Like words that you’ve said so many times they have no meaning
These people are just clones
With shadows of who they could have been.
Of whom they are not.

This is a good poem!

Originally posted by The Merchant
The champion we need in the dark times of the Sheevites Nadd has returned. It's time to bring down the Palpatine establishment that has poisoned the Internet for a decade my friend.

You should see the Star Wars Epic Battles group on Facebook. They have a huge mass of EU PT/OT fanboys with to no little creative intelligence(with the admins in charge)

I'm apart of that group already. I have challenged the status quo and they revealed themselves to be nothing more than cowards in the face of the power of true Sith such as Vitiate and Muur.

You guys are so unbelievably cringeworthy, lmao.

Originally posted by The Merchant
I'm apart of that group already. I have challenged the status quo and they revealed themselves to be nothing more than cowards in the face of the power of true Sith such as Vitiate and Muur.

Are you Raul(Piccolo dude)?

Originally posted by Trocity
You guys are so unbelievably cringeworthy, lmao.

You don't have to remind us.

Originally posted by Trocity
You guys are so unbelievably cringeworthy, lmao.
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Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Lord Beni, you have survived.

And the final instance is Luke's experience with Dark Empire Darth Sidious.
He said that both were the greatest nexuses of dark side power he had ever seen. And he was comparing Exar Kun at his weakest to Sidious at his strongest in Dark Empire.
So, Exar Kun being the victorious is pretty darn obvious.

Um, Luke never said that, nor is that the context of the quote.

I swear, I don't know what's worse: your misinformation or your grammar.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nadd is like a diet, zero calorie, Nai.

No, that's Ziggy. Nadd is... just kinda a lapdog.

Originally posted by MythLord
Um, Luke never said that, nor is that the context of the quote.

I swear, I don't know what's worse: your misinformation or your grammar.


He considered both Sith Lords the greatest focals of the dark side. That's all.
I didn't say that he said it like "literally'. It was a figure of speech created by me.
And this is weak Kun and strong Palpatine.
"There in front of him, starkly visible against the blackness of space, he could see the faint images of Emperor Palpatine and Exar Kun, two of the greatest focal points of the dark side he’d ever had to face. They were standing there before him, gazing back at him. And laughing.
- Specter of the Past
I never said that he encountered them, physically.
For Luke, these two were the greatest focals of the dark side. So, he kind of makes a comparison in his mind if he thinks that.