Nai, I've not responded mainly due to a lack of motivation, but since you seem to be going on about Kun's unique style and weapon, I'll post my response to the lightsaber section now:
The comment regarding Exar Kun’s lightsaber abilities was given aboutPadawan Kun. To spell that out for you😛adawan Kun is already better with a lightsaber than all other beings that Vodo has trained in six centuries. This is before he turns to the Dark Side (which does amplify people’s combat skills), before he designs his own weapon and comes up with a style to wield it, which would have made him an even more formidable swordsman.
And, because of the same reason, the last quote can’t be extended to Kun, because the Order didn’t “produce” him as a sword master.
I don’t see how the dark side increases one’s combat ability aside from the occasional rage boost, unless that’s specifically what you’re referring to. In that case, Kun has already experienced this dark rage as a Jedi, as is fairly evident from his facial expressions here:
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The panel even notes how Kun feels “a rage of his own”. So the quote does indeed extend to Sith Kun, when he’s wielding a single blade. But fair enough on it not applying to the double-bladed lightsaber. Mace still has a solid advantage in raw skill, though, as I’ll explain now:
Mace Windu is a superior duelist to Anoon Bondara, a Jedi Weapons Master, canonically one of the greatest lightsaber duelists in history. 600 years is a rather short amount of time compared to the entire history of the Jedi Order; Anoon is more skilled than Kun. And Mace’s superiority to him – and Qui-Gon, who, according to the below quote, is also more skilled than Bondara – widens the gap between Kun and Windu quite a bit. Not anything drastic, but still noticeable.
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Only a handful were ever elevated to the rank of Jedi Weapons Master, and these were revered for their skills.
-The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
During his tenure at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, he spars with superior lightsaber duelists such as Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu. Although he humbles himself when compared to their skill, Bondara's prowess is nonetheless considerable.
-Jedi Academy Training Manual
Mace is also noted to be canonically superior to Dooku, someone who is objectively ranked at the third spot in the Jedi Order’s history (quotes in my previous post). Again, this puts a quite a wide gap between Mace and Kun. There’s also this:
Master Windu himself remained perfectly balanced and centered. In the history of the Jedi Order, only two opponents ever overcame him in battle. One was Master Yoda, who some said was the Order's true master of lightsaber combat. The other was former Master Dooku, whose own fighting style was archaic, yet stunningly effective.
-Power of the Jedi Sourcebook
If we take the above statement at face value – and I see no reason not to – it would mean Windu has been besting experienced Jedi swordmasters in sparring matches ever since his Youngling and Padawan days (logically, Masters should spar with their Padawans, and lightsaber instructors most definitely do) and only ever lost to Dooku and Yoda. Exar Kun has nothing on this level. While it wouldn’t be a stomp, it would be a rather one-sided fight – if it came down solely to skill.
But this fight is not solely about skill; as you’ve brought up many times, Kun possesses a unique weapon and a unique style. This won’t be a problem for Mace, however, as he has experience fighting against double-bladed weapons in his fight against Asajj Ventress and a shoto in his fight with Sora Bulq. Kun will not catch Mace off-guard by wielding two blades, be they short or long.
As for styles, Mace has logically experience fighting against all seven forms of combat, as his reputation as the second greatest lightsaber wielder would require him to have fought basically everyone with something notable to their name – which could potentially include hundreds of Jedi – and beaten them. Even if you – for some reason – do not accept this without more concrete evidence, there are his spars with Anoon Bondara, a Jedi Weapons Master noted to be a master of multiple fighting disciplines, and Sora Bulq, a master of numerous styles, some classical, some of which he developed himself:
While all Jedi receive some training in combat, few make fighting the central focus of their union with the Force. These Jedi are weapon masters, adepts of various styles of melee combat.
-Power of the Jedi Sourcebook
Sora Bulq was one of the greatest lightsaber instructors the Jedi order had ever known, perfecting the various forms of combat techniques, both classical and experimental. He even helped Mace Windu perfect the art of vaapad, the seventh form of lightsaber combat so intense and dangerous, that to practice it was to tread perilously close to the dark side.
-Databank: Sora Bulq
The study seventh form in itself requires mastery of multiple forms, and Bulq, alongside Mace Windu, was noted to have “perfected” it. Yet despite this, Windu is pretty much capable of stomping Bulq. I’ll link this rather brilliant blog by fellow user EmperorDMB, explaining the circumstances behind the duel:
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/emperordmb/blog/mace-windus-lightsaber-duels-analysis-thread/127977/
He has also faced Tràkata in the hands of Dooku. Although this is never outright confirmed, it is still logical given that Dooku is knowledgeable on the style and his very weapon boasts a feature which allows him to change the blade-length on the fly.
Dooku's expertise in one-to-one combat was aided by some intelligent design features that were built into his lightsaber. Among them was a thumb trigger that allowed Dooku to reduce the blade size instantly for short-range, surprise attacks.
-The Official Star Wars Fact File 68
Another thing to note about Windu is his ability to almost instantly adapt to utterly alien weapons. Before his fight with Asajj Ventress, he had never faced a saberstaff, yet was still capable of handing her ass to her in the same fight. Even if Exar has something up his sleeve that is completely alien to Windu, it will present no problem for him.
I will now summarize why Windu beats and is greater than Exar Kun. Mace Windu...
...has raw skill far surpassing that of Exar.
...has experience fighting against saberstaffs, single blades, dual blades, shotos, long and short blades used at once, tactics that change the blade-length on the fly, etc.
...is familiar with and has experience against all classical forms of lightsaber combat
...is able to adapt instantly to alien weapons and styles if he is confronted with them.
...dueled evenly with someone who has “mastered” numerous unique and personal fighting styles that were known only to him while using two lightsabers of different sizes providing him with access to many unorthodox methods and angles of attack.
...has never been defeated in combat except by Masters Dooku and Yoda, both more skilled than Exar.
And this is why I see Exar Kun having little to no chance against Mace Windu in a contest of technical ability. We don’t need to factor in physicals since Sidious is Kun’s opponent here, not Windu. We merely needed to establish Windu’s technical ability, since it correlates directly with Sidious’.
Gosh.
First: This is all based on a wrong (at least unproven) premise (Mace > Kun), meaning it doesn’t make sense to start with. But you’re making even more mistakes here. Mace’s Shatterpoint ability, which leads to Sidious losing his blade, is not an external factor, but a natural gift. And Sidious wasn’t holding back, which has been demonstrated countless times. The RotS commentary makes that rather clear. And even the picture you posted is utter tosh. While Sidious hold his blade out in Windu’s direction, he can’t deliver a killing blow, because Windu is moving backwards and Sidious is already extending his reach. Mace > Sidious as a swordsman. It’s that easy.
If you’ve read the RotS novel, it should be quite clear the “external factor” I was referrin to was Sidious' fear, which Mace uses to amplify his fighting capabilities even more than they already were, but as is revealed shortly after, the fear wasn’t Sidious’ but Anakin’s. So unless Mace Windu has the emotions of passers-by fueling his Vaapad even further, he cannot best Sidious in a duel.
Second, mind posting the quotes that have “demonstrated countless times” Sidious giving it his all in this fight?
Third, so Sidious can't take the kill because Windu was stepping backwards and Sidious had already extended his arm? Lol. Are you saying he can't swiftly lunge forward, or arch his back? Lol.
One must love your attempt to simplify my entire reasoning to a very small part of the argument. Kun doesn’t beat Sidious because he is a greater swordsman. He beats him, because he is an unpredictable swordsman (weapon and style), wearing lightsaber resistant armor and being much more focused on lightsaber combat and combat related applications of the Force than Sidious is.
Quote for Kun having lightsaber-resistant armor?
Anyway, I’ve already posted quotes about Sidious being a master of every weapon and every style, and proven his technical superiority to Windu – someone ahead of Kun in this aspect – so your point is moot.
And I’m pretty sure Windu was more focused on personal combat than Sidious was, too, yet he was still his inferior, despite Sidious not having used a lightsaber in years. Once you train yourself to a certain level, if your Force connection is strong enough, that level of skill never leaves you.
