Faora (Man of Steel) vs. John Connor

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Originally posted by playa1258
How does John win Quan?
Phasing.

Can John phase? I thought he was just concentrated nanites so he can turn into a cloud to move around attacks, but he can't phase through anything.

Wait, since this battle is in Metropolis..doesn't that mean Faora will steadily be growing stronger due to yellow sun exposure until she gains her full kryptonian powers?

It was nanites, Quan is just making up shit to try and spin Faora losing.

Originally posted by KingD19
Can John phase? I thought he was just concentrated nanites so he can turn into a cloud to move around attacks, but he can't phase through anything.
What he did at the end of the film I deemed phasing. Connor wins.

I don't agree with Quan - that John phasing can beat Faora. But at least he gave a reason as to why he thinks Connor can win. Still haven't heard any reasoning from the Faora side as to how she can beat John.

Making up powers isn't a valid argument though. It would be no different than someone saying "Faora wins via nanite-disrupter clap".

Originally posted by Robtard
Making up powers isn't a valid argument though. It would be no different than someone saying "Faora wins via nanite-disrupter clap".

True. But you have to admit that move he pulled near the end of their fight looked like phasing... or at least something similar to it. I'm not entirely sure how to explain it. I was originally thinking that he broke down to his nano particles and blasted through T800 and reformed at his back... but then that should have left millions of tiny wounds on the T800's skin.

So yeah, I'm not entirely convinced it was phasing, but I have no other explanation for it either.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True. But you have to admit that move he pulled near the end of their fight looked like phasing... or at least something similar to it. I'm not entirely sure how to explain it. I was originally thinking that he broke down to his nano particles and blasted through T800 and reformed at his back... but then that should have left millions of tiny wounds on the T800's skin.

So yeah, I'm not entirely convinced it was phasing, but I have no other explanation for it either.

He partially turned himself into a nanite cloud. It was similar to what GORT did in DTEST.

Phasing through solid objects like Kitty Pryde, it was not. At no time do we see him go through Pops, he 'clouds' around Pops and reforms behind him. I can probably make a gif of the scene later.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
This is a stalemate unless Faora can find a way to put John down permanently. Otherwise, she'll just be kicking him around all day, and he will just keep coming back.

Pretty sure she can BFR him.

Did we miss the part she rips his head off and thunderclaps it?

Originally posted by Robtard
He partially turned himself into a nanite cloud. It was similar to what GORT did in DTEST.

Phasing through solid objects like Kitty Pryde, it was not. At no time do we see him go through Pops, he 'clouds' around Pops and reforms behind him. I can probably make a gif of the scene later.

I hope we're thinking of the same scene. It's where Connor created what seemed to be multiple "shadows" of himself to slam through Pops and then form behind him. I just rewatched the scene and Connor does go through Pops and not around him.

Is that what you're referring to? Because I know there was a different scene with him forming into a nanite cloud... that's not what I'm referring to.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Did we miss the part she rips his head off and thunderclaps it?

Yeah... his head disperses into millions of nanite particles and just reforms after. That's not going to keep him down.

It would keep him down long enough for a forum win. His system was taxed to the brink in the movie. Something Faora can easily replicate.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I hope we're thinking of the same scene. It's where Connor created what seemed to be multiple "shadows" of himself to slam through Pops and then form behind him. I just rewatched the scene and Connor does go [b]through Pops and not around him.

Is that what you're referring to? Because I know there was a different scene with him forming into a nanite cloud... that's not what I'm referring to. [/B]

I was thinking of the fight scene next to the time-portal. I'll rewatch it then, don't recall the actual passing through.

But if you're correct and I'm willing to believe it as you're not known for lying, there's multiple issues with Connor taking out Faora that way. Connor didn't seem to be able to damage Pop's internals by passing through him and Faora and her armor are far more durable than human-based flesh and a T-800 chassis.

Originally posted by Robtard
I was thinking of the fight scene next to the time-portal. I'll rewatch it then, don't recall the actual passing through.

But if you're correct and I'm willing to believe it as you're not known for lying, there's multiple issues with Connor taking out Faora that way. Connor didn't seem to be able to damage Pop's internals by passing through him and Faora and her armor are far more durable than human-based flesh and a T-800 chassis.

It was a pretty weird scene. I remember first watching it and I'm like "WTF?!". Because all of a sudden Connor seemed to gain some supernatural power that was incongruent with the powers he already displayed.

My standing theory is that he breaks down into small enough particles that they can go through Pop's body. If that's the case then I agree with you it won't work on Faora because she's helluva lot tougher than Pops.

Problem with that theory is that though Pops seemed "hurt" by it he didn't display any physical injuries. I would have expected millions of tiny wounds. So another theory is that Connor broke down into such small particles that they can pass through Pops and not leave an injury. But if that's the case then it's pretty useless, having a power that doesn't leave lasting injuries and would definitely not put Faora down.

IMO, Connor's best chance at winning this is breaking Faora's helmet, hit her as hard as he can and hope to KO her. But I'm not sure if he's even strong enough to damage that helmet.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It would keep him down long enough for a forum win. His system was taxed to the brink in the movie. Something Faora can easily replicate.

In what point was he "taxed"? He seems to be able to just come right back after every injury except when he was placed inside that time machine.

When he was being sliced and diced by T800 with the laser slicer.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
When he was being sliced and diced by T800 with the laser slicer.

Yeah but Faora doesn't have a laser. Not unless she develops her heat vision.

So extreme trama of getting his head ripped off won't work.

I highly suspect his head being ripped off would have worse affect them that cutting laser.

This does not have to be *** for tat here.

I get you like arguing as much as you can against kryptonias in every situation but this isn't even a fight.

It's a slaughter.