Faora (Man of Steel) vs. John Connor

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Just like you are unaware of Faora's feats.

And what DarkThor said.

I know Faora's feats better that you do it seems, as you were attributing a feat to her that she didn't do.

I also know for a fact that Faora (nor any of the kryptonians) ever threw anything at far enough distances to escape orbit. Unless you're able to prove otherwise, we're going to keep coming back to this point. So again, I seem to know more of her feats than you.

Now tell me, did you or did you not watch Terminator Genysis?

And regarding what DarkThor said, yes Faora is a lot stronger and faster than Connor but that's not what makes Connor a tough opponent. It's the fact that he can heal himself from blunt trauma attacks which at this point is the only thing Faora is capable of doing.

Not its blunt force trauma.

Conner had trouble overpowering t800 a few times.

The strength difference is to vast here. These guys were capable of tossing trains like cans.

Conner also lacks the ability to control the fight.

He loses. Sorry to crush your flying dreams.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not its blunt force trauma.

Conner had trouble overpowering t800 a few times.

The strength difference is to vast here. These guys were capable of tossing trains like cans.

Conner also lacks the ability to control the fight.

He loses. Sorry to crush your flying dreams.

Yeah, it's blunt force trauma. What exactly is your point? It's not going to work against the T3000. As I mentioned, the strength difference isn't going to matter here because regardless of how strong Faora is Connor will just keep healing himself.

Conner lacks the ability to control the fight. Agreed. Faora lacks the capability to finish the fight. Thus a stalemate. Faora is going to make Connor her punching bag. At the end of the day, she's still not going to be able to put him down for good. And Faora will eventually get tired. Unsure about Connor.

Btw, nice to see you dodging my question about actually watching Terminator Genysis.

I'm not going to answer stupid questions when I already was posing in the thread about the actual movie talking about it.

Grow up, yes I saw it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, it's blunt force trauma. What exactly is your point? It's not going to work against the T3000. As I mentioned, the strength difference isn't going to matter here because regardless of how strong Faora is Connor will just keep healing himself.

Conner lacks the ability to control the fight. Agreed. Faora lacks the capability to finish the fight. Thus a stalemate. Faora is going to make Connor her punching bag. At the end of the day, she's still not going to be able to put him down for good. And Faora will eventually get tired. Unsure about Connor.

Faora will not get tired. Conner will eventually be taxed to much.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Faora will not get tired. Conner will eventually be taxed to much.

No? As far as we can tell, kryptonians still need to eat and sleep. You saying Faora can keep fighting indefinitely?

And if you've watched the movie, what do you think about Connor's seemingly phasing abilities?

Did you not know they don't need to eat or sleep?

When did you see them eat anything?

Is this the debate we getting into now about eating schedules?

This is when the debate dies a horrible death.

Faora wins.

/thread

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Did you not know they don't need to eat or sleep?

When did you see them eat anything?

Is this the debate we getting into now about eating schedules?

This is when the debate dies a horrible death.

Faora wins.

/thread

Ah so now you claim that the Kryptonians (Clark Kent included) do not need to eat or sleep? You do realize that comic feats do not count in the MVF right?

You know the difference between us TI? I provide feats and scenes from movies, you provide assumptions.

I tell you that Connor can turn into a nanite cloud and fly around in air and provide scenes of him doing so.
I claim that Faora isn't capable of throwing someone into orbit because she has no feats to suggest so.
I claim that blunt force trauma can't put down Connor because he's been able to recover from every single blunt force trauma he's received in his movie.

You on the other hand:

Claim that Faora can throw Connor straight into orbit... which you can't back up with any feat.
Claim that Faora doesn't need to eat or sleep... which I assume is you basing it from comics?
Claim that Faora will have no trouble hurting Connor in his nanite cloud form... because she's so uber strong that she just has to win.
Heck you even claim that there's no nanite cloud... where you base this assumption from I have no idea. Just leads me to believe you really have yet to watch the movie.

And then you keep dodging points I raised. Like Connor's phasing ability. Do you even know which scene I'm talking about?

Prove Krptonians need to eat or sleep.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Prove Krptonians need to eat or sleep.

Numerous times I've asked you to prove that:

1. Faora can throw anything strong enough to break orbit
2. The Nanite cloud doesn't exist
3. Faora's punches can take out Connor
4. Faora can handle Connor while he's a nanite cloud

And you have yet to prove a single one of these. Now you're trying to latch on eat/sleep habits and not address all previous points? Get outta here.

Address the previous questions asked first then I'll debate with you on eat/sleep habits.

I said the nanite cloud "problem" does not exist, because its not a problem..

Her punches can take him out based on t800 tossing him around like a child.

If he's in his nanite cloud, he's lost the fight due to leaving the battle.

Keep arguing a losing battle though, nothing you say can change the outcome of the fight that she dominates.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I said the nanite cloud" problem" does not exist, because its not a problem..

Her punches can take him out based on t800 tossing him around like a child.

If he's in your nanite cloud, he's lost the fight due to leaving the battle.

Keep arguging a losing battle though, nothing you say can change the outcome of the fight that she dominates.

Yeah the T800 tossed him around. Did it hurt him? Did it keep him down? No. So Faora can toss him around all she wants. How's that going to enable her to win the battle?

How is him dissolving into a nanite cloud equal him leaving the battle? You'll have to explain this to me because it doesn't make sense.

Let's stick to these two points first and then move on from there.

His tossing him around pales in comparison to the force behind Faora's tossing. In a forum fight, there is a winner and loser. She wins based on domination.

Like I said, tossing John around isn't going to put him down. Faora can toss him around as much as she wants... he'll keep standing back up.

And do we really have any forum rules that say a combatant can win for simply dominating the fight? I thought winner was either through a kill, KO or bfr?

You really gone full Carver. Only he could argue a losing fight and find a backdoor with the excuse "stalemate."

Pathetic

So basically what you're saying is Faora wins on points but not tgrough a kill, KO or bfr?

I can agree to that.