Rank Lucifer and Michael In Marvel Cosmology

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't need to name people really. However, OneZee (Abi) is one of them. Even the person I directly quoted and replied to has said the same thing. Oh it talked about Universe when thanos had the IG so the IG is only universal. Even though other terms were used and the feats back it up being more than universal. Yet here, it's oh don't mind that it said Universe... it also said this 2.... ummmm No, you've argued the opposite with other marvel artifacts. I agree with what you're saying in principle. I also never aligned myself one way or another on Lucifer and the universe question. All I'm illustrating is the blatant hypocrisy that goes on around here.

I guess I can understand not naming people, but then I hope this thread goes to show feats matter more then labels.

I personally don't like going off specific labels given as opposed to feats unless you really have nothing else to go on. Since sometimes comics can just be wrong. Like when Flash evacuates a city of half a million people in the blink of an eye and the narration says he is merely going at the speed of light. With the same logic people apparently applied to the IG, that feat now is vastly less impressive because even though it would take speed well beyond mere lightspeed..well, the comic said it was lightspeed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say... He was able to do all that on his own?

Does it matter that much?

Samael and Michael are below Yahweh alone.

But Michael has the power of the Demiurgos. The ability to create infinitely from nothing.
Michael is described as "The spark that expands forever. An ocean of power with no shore." by Yahweh himself.

Samael wasn't blessed with it. He was blessed with the Morning Star instead. He gives power shape. He created all the concepts.
But he is no less powerful.

After inheriting the Demiurgos, Elaine even created a multiverse on accident.

When Samael went to rescue Elaine from the Mansions of Silence to repay her, his presence alone caused an infinite number of realms, universes and creations to collapse and vanish.

What are these infinite realms, universes and creations ?
They're the leftovers from when he shaped Yahweh's creation.

Yahweh's creation expands into infinity.
And so do the leftovers.
And so does Samael's sequel.
And so does Elaine's.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say... He was able to do all that on his own?

Destroying dimensions via sheer presence was 100% Lucifer IIRC.

They would be The Living Tribunal Level.