Originally posted by Delta1938
😆 Irony rapes you so hard. And you think Superman loses? Going to actually debate?
I thought you were having the time of your pitiful life talking shit to me?
I already spoke to the topic dumb ass. Cap would split Clarks ass down the middle with his shield and you'd bare witness.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I thought you were having the time of your pitiful life talking shit to me?I already spoke to the topic dumb ass.
Pointing-out reality isn't talking shit.
So basically you have nothing else to say on the topic and are sticking around solely to troll, and say I don't have a life? Yeah, irony tore you up.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Pointing-out reality isn't talking shit.So basically you have nothing else to say on the topic and are sticking around solely to troll, and say I don't have a life? Yeah, irony tore you up.
😂 So in other words, "You go first!!"
You started ****ing with me a couple of days ago out of the blue so stop copping pleas now.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
😂 So in other words, "You go first!!"You started ****ing with me a couple of days ago out of the blue so stop copping pleas now.
When you're not having your meltdowns, you're a perfect example of ignorance is bliss.
Who said your piss poor comebacks bother me? I'm just pointing-out how hilarious it is that you're saying I don't have a life, when your sole purpose has been to troll, when you're not having a meltdown.
Do you actually want to debate the topic? If so, I can drop the hostility, as long as you do.
Originally posted by Delta1938
When you're not having your meltdowns, you're a perfect example of ignorance is bliss.Who said your piss poor comebacks bother me? I'm just pointing-out how hilarious it is that you're saying I don't have a life, when your sole purpose has been to troll, when you're not having a meltdown.
Do you actually want to debate the topic? If so, I can drop the hostility, as long as you do.
Translation: "You go first!!" 😂
GTFOH..... Let me tell you something to your troll ass face. I didn't know you from Adam a couple of days ago until you fired off your mouth as I was engaged with another poster. Now, it is what it is.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Translation: "You go first!!" 😂GTFOH..... Let me tell you something to your troll ass face. I didn't know you from Adam a couple of days ago until you fired off your mouth as I was engaged with another poster. Now, it is what it is.
"Troll ass face?" 😆 Your meltdowns aren't clever.
Originally posted by Delta1938
So you're trying to argue John is faster than Superman because he reacted faster than Wally, but that John isn't faster than Wally, but still faster than Superman even though Superman attacked faster than Wally could react(or at least do anything)?
Nope scans don't prove that he's faster than Supes or Flash it just proves John could potentially deal with Supes speed and it's not an 'auto' command. Can't be really bothered to break it down to you please figure it out.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Hal grabbed Zoom from behind when Zoom was standing in one spot. Not the best example. And have scan/issue reference for Kyle grabbing Flash? Also, unless you think it being a different Power Ring makes a difference, Superman treated Sinestro like this.
When you learn to read scans properly then I will right now can't be bothered.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Sinestro got away, because he attacked while Superman was distracted. And Superman initially couldn't escape without hurting the sailors. Since this is from the SILVER AGE storyline(not from the Silver Age, but named after that as it was an homage in style; it's definitely canon), this would take place with a rookie Superman against the veteran ring slinger Sinestro. And hurts the argument about the Power Rings giving the reflexes you're arguing.
That's just one incident you got comics that's been going on for decades. You're going to have scans that show GLs reacting slow or vice verse. Waste of time.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Honestly, that's a circular argument and means little. The burden of proof is on you to prove Cap will perform like you're arguing. You really made a topic that's hard for you to do that with due to the rules on GLs.
Beyonder took Steve Rogers form, if Cap had a weak will Beyonder wouldn't have done it. Cap beat Nightmare in his own realm that's like beating The Beyonder and he's not truly superhuman. Beat that.
Cap beats the GLs and Supes compartively in willpower all day long.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Well... Yeah. That's literally around 95% of the time how the ring is used.
Fantastic show me scans that indicate this.
Originally posted by Deadline
Nope scans don't prove that he's faster than Supes or Flash it just proves John could potentially deal with Supes speed and it's not an 'auto' command. Can't be really bothered to break it down to you please figure it out.When you learn to read scans properly then I will right now can't be bothered.
That's just one incident you got comics that's been going on for decades. You're going to have scans that show GLs reacting slow or vice verse. Waste of time.
Beyonder took Steve Rogers form, if Cap had a weak will Beyonder wouldn't have done it. Cap beat Nightmare in his own realm that's like beating The Beyonder and he's not truly superhuman. Beat that.
Cap beats the GLs and Supes compartively in willpower all day long.
Fantastic show me scans that indicate this.
"I dismiss Superman blitzing sinestro because it's one time thing. "
" Beyonder chose Cap's body because his will was strong."
"Cap beat Nightmare which is like beating Beyonder without any scans or issue number. "
It's like talking to h1 while he is high.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Got to say this is one of the most atrocious reasoning I've ever seen."I dismiss Superman blitzing sinestro because it's one time thing. "
Missing the point. I'm not really dismissing it the point is characters have different feats you need to take them all as a whole not just one.
Originally posted by abhilegend
" Beyonder chose Cap's body because his will was strong."
He didn't?
Originally posted by abhilegend
"Cap beat Nightmare which is like beating Beyonder without any scans or issue number. "
I could if I wanted to, so you got scans or issues numbers for every feat? And yes there were circumstances to the feat still very very impressive. If it helps its The American Nightmare arc think it was 1999. Don't have exact number to hand.
Originally posted by Deadline
Missing the point. I'm not really dismissing it the point is characters have different feats you need to take them all as a whole not just one.
Of course you're dismissing it.
Any other questions?
Yes, he didn't.He didn't?
Move along.
I could if I wanted to, so you got scans or issues numbers for every feat? And yes there were circumstances to the feat still very very impressive. If it helps its The American Nightmare arc think it was 1999. Don't have exact number to hand.
So you don't have the issue number or scans and it's out of context to boot. Good, good.
Originally posted by Deadline
You know what I'm not so sure. Are you trying to argue that Superman is faster than both Flash and John Stewart? That doesn't make any sense fact is eventhough I wouldnt argue that John is faster than the Flash in general doesn't change the fact in this instance he was and hes still very fast. The reason why he hesistated was obvoulsy because he thought it would be the best thing to do otherwise he would have just blitzed them.Still doesn't change the fact that Hal has grabbed Zoom and Kyle has been able to grab Flash in a fight. Oh and as far as Im concerned Steve would be the best GL there is period and he also has his indestructible shield, h2h skills etc. Supes goes down hard.
😂
Someone's going down hard in this fight alright but it sure ain't Superman. 👆
Originally posted by Deadline
Nope scans don't prove that he's faster than Supes or Flash it just proves John could potentially deal with Supes speed and it's not an 'auto' command. Can't be really bothered to break it down to you please figure it out.
So John encasing Superman in a shield while Superman was going after Wally and Superman's own narration showing he was setting things up(making it questionable at best that it's a legit speed feat for John even with the distraction) proves.....what, exactly?
Originally posted by Deadline
When you learn to read scans properly then I will right now can't be bothered.
First, I was going off memory and thought it was Superman Zoom was hitting when Hal came in, so it's not that I need to learn to read scans. Second, you clearly can't be bothered with providing scans, at all. Just make claims. I could post a lot more, but you're not making it worth the effort.
Originally posted by Deadline
That's just one incident you got comics that's been going on for decades. You're going to have scans that show GLs reacting slow or vice verse. Waste of time.
One incident is just as much as you've shown. And considering the context of both my example and yours, it doesn't help your case.
Originally posted by Deadline
Beyonder took Steve Rogers form, if Cap had a weak will Beyonder wouldn't have done it.
.....are you arguing that genetics equate to willpower?
Originally posted by Deadline
Cap beat Nightmare in his own realm that's like beating The Beyonder and he's not truly superhuman. Beat that.Cap beats the GLs and Supes compartively in willpower all day long.
Trying to dismiss Superman's feats of willpower because he's not a powerless human is actually really, REALLY ****ing stupid. It gives you an excuse to dismiss anything Superman's done because "Cap is human!!" while you're blissfully unaware that it doesn't actually matter because regardless of your opinion on Cap's being better because "he's not superhuman" it doesn't change if Superman's are simply better. That's like trying to argue Superman isn't stronger than Captain America because "Captain America is human therefore his strength feats are better!!"
So, are you actually going to post anything to back your claims, or are you going to continue to make arguments based on nothing but speculation and assumption?
Originally posted by Deadline
Fantastic show me scans that indicate this.
Wait... How do you not know this? It's one of the first things Lanterns are told about the ring.
Or do you really think the ring has to be vocally told what to do?
Have you never watched any of the cartoons? Haven't seen the movie?
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Delta and Blue, tone down the personal stuff.
