Originally posted by Bardock42
lol, Trump is really going after Carson.Inside Donald Trump's 10-minute, insult-filled rant about Ben Carson
Trump obviously doesn't take losing in the polls well...but Carson could also generally just lie less...
Lolz, not sure what was the more whacked move, calling the people of Iowa "stupid" while in Iowa, or ever so slyly comparing Carson to a child molester.
The "wanna try it on me" in regards to the stabbing was also decent. This guy is a riot.
Originally posted by Surtur
So what are the opinions on the debate on Saturday? They came at Hilary hard over the Paris attacks.
The early bits had a lot of "Candidate A, will you tell us what's wrong with candidate B?" questions, but we did move on to some substance.
It's not as strong a debate as the first one, but it wasn't a bad debate either. Fairly middle of the road- which isn't good for O'Malley or Sanders, who need breakouts. I don't think anyone got hammered, but nor did anyone really score major points.
538's people gave, purely subjectively, Hil and Bern 'Bs' on average (some C+s, some A-s, average B), O'Malley a C+ average.
I do think we're in the phase where there's less going on. Right now the debates are more a way to inform voters on the stances of candidates on specific issues- this one what to do about banking/wallstreet, and gun control- and less about major shakeups. Rather, the smaller candidates want it to be shakeups, but it's harder to make it happen as everyone knows them better.
Things are going to start mattering more the closer we get to actual primaries, and Nate Silver's of the opinion polls only start mattering past thanksgiving- and even then, that's just 'they start heading upward more but start from a low level'.
On the wall street talk they had, Hillary really does have a more comprehensive reform plan, but not everyone believes she'll do it due to her ties to wall street
But actual wall street donations to her campaign are actually fairly low on the list of her donors. Federal employees are the number one, and there's a good number more before wall street gets on the list. Even a school (Yale) gets higher.
"At a time when Clinton is trying to counter the narrative that she's beholden to Wall Street and corporate America — represented in Washington by K Street lobbyists — the numbers show that she doesn't yet depend on their contributions. That, coupled with the pressure of rising populism in the electorate, may explain why Clinton feels she has plenty of political latitude to propose tightening financial industry regulations, raising capital gains taxes, and punishing corporate executives whose companies break the rules."
Originally posted by Nephthys
So I heard that 3 GOP candidates had attended a "kill the gays" seminar like a week ago.That's kinda ****ed up.
That would be Kevin Swanson. He advocates for killing gays and has said all manner of repulsive stuff. Cruz, Huckabee, and Jindal, attended a conference organized by Swanson.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah. Shouldn't that be kind of a big deal? If that happened in England they'd be getting castrated by now.Or are these guys just that much of small fries for anyone to give a shit?
Or people kinda already understand that they're bigots.
But yea, I'm still surprised there's not more talk on it.
Oh, that does remind me- There is a thing where candidate's campaigns investigate other candidates for potential scandals (of course)... and then stockpile them for the main campaign.
You can be sure that Hillary is having her people look at the Republican candidates and try and find surprises. Meanwhile, the Republican candidates are mostly trying to do the same to each other.
Though those are kind of shady tactics. So do we look the other way because everyone does it?
Originally posted by Robtard
Lolz, not sure what was the more whacked move, calling the people of Iowa "stupid" while in Iowa, or ever so slyly comparing Carson to a child molester.The "wanna try it on me" in regards to the stabbing was also decent. This guy is a riot.
I'm surprised nobody volunteered to try it on him. However, even though Trump went on one of his traditional rants if his main point was "Ben Carson has said a lot of stupid shit" he would be 100% correct. Though if it were me I would of talked about Carson's claims about his cancer.
Originally posted by Surtur
Though those are kind of shady tactics. So do we look the other way because everyone does it?
Hm? I don't think 'looking the other way' is the right way to say it here. That's, like, 100% normal, checking out opponents is arguably part of the point of a campaign, not a shady thing.
Deciding when to use it is part of the tactics, but I don't think looking into your opponent's history is something to be avoided.
Though if it were me I would of talked about Carson's claims about his cancer.
Or vaccines... anything science related that is not actually brain surgery.
GOP candidates do love their fear tactics; that and shitting on the Constitution they so claim to hold above all:
Ted Cruz wants to deny refuges based on religion: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/17/politics/hillary-clinton-gop-syrian-refugees/index.html
Trump wants to consider shutting down Mosques: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/donald-trump-paris-attacks-close-mosques/index.html
Originally posted by Robtard
GOP candidates do love their fear tactics; that and shitting on the Constitution they so claim to hold above all:Ted Cruz wants to deny refuges based on religion: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/17/politics/hillary-clinton-gop-syrian-refugees/index.html
Trump wants to consider shutting down Mosques: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/donald-trump-paris-attacks-close-mosques/index.html
they're always shitting on the constitution, except for their precious "SEKUND 'MENDENT". oh, and when they're whining that their freedom of speech was violated because of any public backlash at their obvious trolling.