On the debate results, it's hard to pick a winner because it kinda feels like they fell into their grooves.
The big names aren't making big moves, and there was no surprise showing, except arguably Kasich, but while he did make a move to get more notice, it didn't exactly put him on top.
Now, talking policy and stuff is what a debate should be about and they did some of that, but a number of 'em did fairly equally in that.
Not a bad debate, but still, hard to pick a winner.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Just looking at the very first one he broke, ending the war in Afghanistan, that's a fairly huge one. Don't you think?
This is an interesting point, FiveThirtyEight has a cool graph about Obama's promises vs. the actual progression:
Their whole liveblog of the debate is very interesting:
I would've made a separate thread for this but I get the feeling Ush would've closed it. Carly Fiorina blasts liberal media over double standard displayed regarding a Clinton supporter who wanted to choke her:
She's exactly right. If one of her or Trump's supporters had said something like that about Hilldog then you can bet the media would be all up in Trump's face if he didn't take up for Hillary. Hillary's reaction to her supporter who said he/she wanted to strangle Fiorina? She chuckled. LMAO. Makes me sick. If Trump had laughed when that guy in his audience asked Donald "How do we get rid of Muslims?" can you imagine the backlash that he would've received from the media? You liberals and your double standards make me sick to my stomach. I'm sure you'll all come along now with every excuse in the book or justification for why the media has, for the most part, looked the other way at Clinton's shameful "non-reaction" to the threat that one of her typical disgusting supporters threatened to choke Fiorina while they certainly didn't look the other way when Trump was asked about how to get rid of Muslims. Why didn't your supposed socialist savior take up for Fiorina instead of laugh? Is it because the ugly prune face pig has no class to speak of? And libs on this forum can actually call that b**** "Presidential" with a straight face? You gotta be kidding me.
Now let's hear all of your typical liberal lame-ass excuses for this double-standard behavior. I can't wait to hear them. I guess you're all gonna say something typical like "another Republican whining" or some such horseshit, right? LOL. Pathetic.
Oh, and btw, that source is one of your left-wing lib ones so you can't complain about it being invalid like you libs always do when you don't agree with it or like it. 👆
LMAO. Just what I thought. Pathetic lame-ass excuses. Different things? You bet. The Hillary supporter threatened to choke Fiorina to death. Damn right it's not the same thing, dude. It's much more serious. Especially when the b**** you describe as "Presidential" (LMAO) just laughs. Yeah, she sure is a classy "Presidential" lady isn't she? *rolls eyes* ...Both Trump and Fiorina have more class in their pinkies than she has in her entire being which has been shown time and time again. Sorry, but NO, she most certainly is NOT "Presidential" in any description of the word. Trump sure didn't laugh when the person in the audience asked "How do we get rid of Muslims did he?"
Originally posted by Star428
LMAO. Just what I thought. Pathetic lame-ass excuses. Different things? You bet. The Hillary supporter threatened to choke Fiorina to death. Damn right it's not the same thing, dude. It's much more serious. Especially when the b**** you describe as "Presidential" (LMAO) just laughs. Yeah, she sure is a classy "Presidential" lady isn't she? *rolls eyes* ...Both Trump and Fiorina have more class in their pinkies than she has in her entire being which has been shown time and time again. Sorry, but NO, she most certainly is NOT "Presidential" in any description of the word. Trump sure didn't laugh when the person in the audience asked "How do we get rid of Muslims did he?"
"Every time I see her on TV, I want to reach through and strangle her," is not a threat, let alone a death threat.
What is truly pathetic is someone who has to exaggerate and lie to try to score political points.
That is true for you and Fiorina.
The controversy revolved around a male Clinton supporter who was laid off by Fiorina at Hewlett-Packard. At a rally on Tuesday, he told Clinton he’d like to “strangle” Fiorina when the Republican candidate boasts about her time as CEO of the company.
"Every time I see her on TV, I want to reach through and strangle her," he said. Clinton laughed off the comment, responding that she wouldn’t mess with him. -snip
That's the controversy now. Fiorina needs to focus on getting her numbers up instead of crying foul every time someone takes a minor jab at her, considering she's at the bottom.
Originally posted by Star428
I would've made a separate thread for this but I get the feeling Ush would've closed it. Carly Fiorina blasts liberal media over double standard displayed regarding a Clinton supporter who wanted to choke her:She's exactly right. If one of her or Trump's supporters had said something like that about Hilldog then you can bet the media would be all up in Trump's face if he didn't take up for Hillary. Hillary's reaction to her supporter who said he/she wanted to strangle Fiorina? She chuckled. LMAO. Makes me sick. If Trump had laughed when that guy in his audience asked Donald "How do we get rid of Muslims?" can you imagine the backlash that he would've received from the media? You liberals and your double standards make me sick to my stomach. I'm sure you'll all come along now with every excuse in the book or justification for why the media has, for the most part, looked the other way at Clinton's shameful "non-reaction" to the threat that one of her typical disgusting supporters threatened to choke Fiorina while they certainly didn't look the other way when Trump was asked about how to get rid of Muslims. Why didn't your supposed socialist savior take up for Fiorina instead of laugh? Is it because the ugly prune face pig has no class to speak of? And libs on this forum can actually call that b**** "Presidential" with a straight face? You gotta be kidding me.
Now let's hear all of your typical liberal lame-ass excuses for this double-standard behavior. I can't wait to hear them. I guess you're all gonna say something typical like "another Republican whining" or some such horseshit, right? LOL. Pathetic.
Oh, and btw, that source is one of your left-wing lib ones so you can't complain about it being invalid like you libs always do when you don't agree with it or like it. 👆
"Fiorina Defends Not Correcting Remark About Obama" from The Hill:
"Carly Fiorina is defending her decision not to correct a man who made remarks about President Obama at a diner in New Hampshire.
Fiorina said it wasn’t her job to defend the president . . . The former Hewlett-Packard CEO said it’s her job to defeat Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton in 2016."
Originally posted by Bardock42
This is an interesting point, FiveThirtyEight has a cool graph about Obama's promises vs. the actual progression:
Right. You can see he's trying to move in that direction, but keeps moving the estimates on when the actual out-time would be and seems to have shifted to a 'slooowly decreasing presence' approach.
lol, Trump is really going after Carson.
Inside Donald Trump's 10-minute, insult-filled rant about Ben Carson
Trump obviously doesn't take losing in the polls well...but Carson could also generally just lie less...
Originally posted by Bardock42
lol, Trump is really going after Carson.Inside Donald Trump's 10-minute, insult-filled rant about Ben Carson
Trump obviously doesn't take losing in the polls well...but Carson could also generally just lie less...
This. The GOP is crumbling from the inside, so sad.
Originally posted by Bardock42
lol, Trump is really going after Carson.Inside Donald Trump's 10-minute, insult-filled rant about Ben Carson
Trump obviously doesn't take losing in the polls well...but Carson could also generally just lie less...
Kinda like Hillary, huh? The lying. Only in her case it's happens much more often and they're MUCH more serious/relevant lies. Carson may've lied about things that happened in his childhood while practically every word that comes out of Hilldog's mouth is a lie. 👆
Last I checked Carson wasn't responsible for getting four Americans killed in Benghazi and then lying about the cause to the families and everyone else. Yeah, I'd take Carson or any other Republican over her ass for President any day.