Gladiator vs Black Adam

Originally posted by Stoic
It's only irony because you decided to take one thing that i said, and attempt to run with it. In so doing you also decided that it was an opportune time to insult my intelligence. Either deal with my entire statement or continue cherry picking to the point of looking pedantic. Like I said keep running in circles.

It's irony because you're doing the shit you're accusing me of doing. I give absolutely no ****s about your other arguments because I asked a question of what feats Gladiator has with his freeze breath, I have not been arguing the topic AS A WHOLE. You failed to answer, instead strawman, and focus on everything but my question. You seem to be arguing because I'm not accepting your argument based on nothing but assumption(unless there are feats which you've been not citing for whatever reason, but I doubt that's the case).

For an analogy, it's like you're saying Fighter X beats Damian Maia(a multi-time world Jiu-Jitsu/submission wrestling champion) and one of your arguments is he submits Maia. I ask you what has he done to make you think he can submit one of the most accomplished submission grapplers to go into MMA. You keep bringing-up X's speed, power, takedown defense, technique, athleticism and striking versatility, and bring-up he's trained in submissions.

I say all of that is irrelevant, and ask what submission grappling credentials he has, or who he has submitted that's noteworthy in that department. You go on a rant about me ignoring everything else and say I shouldn't dismiss he'll submit Maia just because he hasn't trained as long in submissions. Yeah, that's pretty much what this has been like.

If Gladiator has even one feat that's comparable to Superman in freeze breath, your argument would have merit. If it doesn't, having "the same power" ain't gonna cut it dude. By that logic I can say that U.S. Agent beats the shit out of Hulk, Thanos, Gladiator and Thor combined in a slugfest because he has the same power. And you'd be a hypocrite to argue otherwise.

Originally posted by Stoic
You did? I was under the impression that you trolled. Close enough i guess.

I'm not trolling. I simply laughed because his post was funny, while simultaneously being a valid point.

Originally posted by Stoic
What does that have to do with being blasted in the eyes by a guy that has no problem with killing his opponent? MM has the same character as Superman, while Gladiator shares the same regards for life while in battle as Lobo does. Gladiator would have no problem with crippling BA with a dose of laser vision to the eyes. After all he did try to burn the Hulk's heart out of his chest without even thinking about it.

He's not going to. Adam has been blasted by heat vision and Martian vision and it did nothing, while Gladiator hasn't taken a full blast of magic lightning. Adam wins this.

Stop trolling, Stoic. Your reasons are shit.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It's irony because you're doing the shit you're accusing me of doing. I give absolutely no ****s about your other arguments because I asked a question of what feats Gladiator has with his freeze breath, I have not been arguing the topic AS A WHOLE. You failed to answer, instead strawman, and focus on everything but my question. You seem to be arguing because I'm not accepting your argument based on nothing but assumption(unless there are feats which you've been not citing for whatever reason, but I doubt that's the case).

For an analogy, it's like you're saying Fighter X beats Damian Maia(a multi-time world Jiu-Jitsu/submission wrestling champion) and one of your arguments is he submits Maia. I ask you what has he done to make you think he can submit one of the most accomplished submission grapplers to go into MMA. You keep bringing-up X's speed, power, takedown defense, technique, athleticism and striking versatility, and bring-up he's trained in submissions.

I say all of that is irrelevant, and ask what submission grappling credentials he has, or who he has submitted that's noteworthy in that department. You go on a rant about me ignoring everything else and say I shouldn't dismiss he'll submit Maia just because he hasn't trained as long in submissions. Yeah, that's pretty much what this has been like.

If Gladiator has even one feat that's comparable to Superman in freeze breath, your argument would have merit. If it doesn't, having "the same power" ain't gonna cut it dude. By that logic I can say that U.S. Agent beats the shit out of Hulk, Thanos, Gladiator and Thor combined in a slugfest because he has the same power. And you'd be a hypocrite to argue otherwise.

I'm not trolling. I simply laughed because his post was funny, while simultaneously being a valid point.

Because you brought up one thing that i stated, and made it the issue when I gave a number of reasons why I gave Gladiator a slight nod. This in turn made your entire stance pedantic. You asked I answered. I asked and you kept on with the same stance. Should I ask again? I think I will.

1. Who has beaten Gladiator so bad that makes you believe that BA is his superior.

2. What stops Gladiator from blinding him the moment that the fight begins.

3. Gladiator has a few advantages due to power set. Yes or No?

Now once you answer those questions, especially the last one, you may see how his freeze breath, coupled with the rest of his powers could, and should give him a slight edge over BA.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because you brought up one thing that i stated, and made it the issue when I gave a number of reasons why I gave Gladiator a slight nod. This in turn made your entire stance pedantic. You asked I answered. I asked and you kept on with the same stance. Should I ask again? I think I will.

1. Who has beaten Gladiator so bad that makes you believe that BA is his superior.

2. What stops Gladiator from blinding him the moment that the fight begins.

3. Gladiator has a few advantages due to power set. Yes or No?

Now once you answer those questions, especially the last one, you may see how his freeze breath, coupled with the rest of his powers could, and should give him a slight edge over BA.

When has Gladiator used his vision to blind someone? Or kill? What top tier has he killed?

Originally posted by Zack M
Stop trolling, Stoic. Your reasons are shit.

My answers are shit? Dude you have two Marvel clones that argue just you you do. Why in the world would anyone ever take anything that you say seriously? When I see your name in a thread, I know that 95% of the time what your going to say, before i even enter the thread. What? You're answer is usually DC character [insert name] wins.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because you brought up one thing that i stated, and made it the issue when I gave a number of reasons why I gave Gladiator a slight nod. This in turn made your entire stance pedantic. You asked I answered. I asked and you kept on with the same stance. Should I ask again? I think I will.

1. Who has beaten Gladiator so bad that makes you believe that BA is his superior.

2. What stops Gladiator from blinding him the moment that the fight begins.

3. Gladiator has a few advantages due to power set. Yes or No?

Now once you answer those questions, especially the last one, you may see how his freeze breath, coupled with the rest of his powers could, and should give him a slight edge over BA.

If I had said, "Adam wins" and then questioned your entire argument based on the freeze breath thing, you'd have a point. I did not. You made a claim, I asked what feats to support Gladiator slowing Black Adam down with freeze breath has, and you've gone on a rant about me ignoring everything else you've said.

But no, you've been ranting and complaining and coming-up with conspiracy theories to justify yourself while dodging my original question.

Originally posted by Stoic
So if BA can use his magic against Glads, why can't Glads look into his eyes before he even opens his mouth and fry his eyes at the speed of light? If this is a quick draw, Glads would win. In this case they both know what each other can do if we go by forum ruling. Since we are going by forum rules, Gladiator would actually be able to hit BA first with his laser vision.

It's only irony because you decided to take one thing that i said, and attempt to run with it. In so doing you also decided that it was an opportune time to insult my intelligence. Either deal with my entire statement or continue cherry picking to the point of looking pedantic. Like I said keep running in circles.

Because whilst BA has used lightning before, Glads has not HVd people's eyes out. Otherwise, ill just say Flash plucks everyone's eyes out in every match, or Zoom does etc.

Also, did you see my other scans. If we're crossing feats,Billy has been turned inside out and back again...and lived. Adam could do the same.

Not to mention, HVhas already been tried against BA. He was weakened, she was out for the kill...you can see that even though his hair wasn't the target of her HV, it was still burning.

His eyes, however, were not.

Proof that his eyes aren't more vulnerable to HV as one would assume.

Originally posted by Stoic
My answers are shit? Dude you have two Marvel clones that argue just you you do. Why in the world would anyone ever take anything that you say seriously? When I see your name in a thread, I know that 95% of the time what your going to say, before i even enter the thread. What? You're answer is usually DC character [insert name] wins.

Yes, the whole heat vision is stupid. Adam has a huge durability advantage and has ALREADY tanked said attack, among other uber opponents like Onimar. It's not going to work.

Originally posted by Zack M
When has Gladiator used his vision to blind someone? Or kill? What top tier has he killed?

He burned a hole in the Hulk's hide, and if the Hulk didn't have a HF he would have died. You could see his heart.

Originally posted by Stoic
He burned a hole in the Hulk's hide, and if the Hulk didn't have a HF he would have died. You could see his heart.

Adam is more durable and he didn't kill the Hulk. NEXT!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because whilst BA has used lightning before, Glads has not HVd people's eyes out. Otherwise, ill just say Flash plucks everyone's eyes out in every match, or Zoom does etc.

Also, did you see my other scans. If we're crossing feats,Billy has been turned inside out and back again...and lived. Adam could do the same.

Not to mention, HVhas already been tried against BA. He was weakened, she was out for the kill...you can see that even though his hair wasn't the target of her HV, it was still burning.

His eyes, however, were not.

Proof that his eyes aren't more vulnerable to HV as one would assume.

Does that mean that BA can not be defeated? Anyways I truly wish you luck. BA is not and has never been unbeatable. Some things that happen in comics are PIS. In a forum match, Gladiator could laser his eyes, and beat him into a KO'd state while he tried to recover. However the BA that's being used here happens to be invulnerable to attacks that would harm any top tier. Whatever though. I'm done with the head games, better things to do.

I'll be honest, I always thought Hulk had a relatively poor durability, and it was his HF that was top notch.

Originally posted by Stoic
Does that mean that BA can not be defeated? Anyways I truly wish you luck. BA is not and has never been unbeatable. Some things that happen in comics are PIS. In a forum match, Gladiator could laser his eyes, and beat him into a KO'd state while he tried to recover. However the BA that's being used here happens to be invulnerable to attacks that would harm any top tier. Whatever though. I'm done with the head games, better things to do.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Stoic
Does that mean that BA can not be defeated? Anyways I truly wish you luck. BA is not and has never been unbeatable. Some things that happen in comics are PIS. In a forum match, Gladiator could laser his eyes, and beat him into a KO'd state while he tried to recover. However the BA that's being used here happens to be invulnerable to attacks that would harm any top tier. Whatever though. I'm done with the head games, better things to do.

Head games? 😆

😂 So Stoic's great example was Hulk who he did not kill and is less durable than Adam? 😂 Good going, Stoic!

Guys, he's left now.....no need to wallow. Its unseemly, we're not LoB.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Guys, he's left now.....no need to wallow. Its unseemly, we're not LoB.....

I replied only a few minutes after.

😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if you told me, hey, DS, Manny Pacquiao is going to punch you as hard as he can, brace for it!

And I brace.....you're saying I'd be able to laugh it off? Tank it?

What about Tyson in his prime? If I'm allowed to brace for his best haymaker, I can take it?

The pertinent point here is not that Thor had help, or used Mjolnir, or whatever. The point was, normal (i.e. non magical) lightning was sufficient to stun Glads. Shazam lightning is pretty damn potent on top of that, PLUS is magical to boot. And can be spammed.

Do you have Gladiator durability?

Originally posted by Zack M
😂 So Stoic's great example was Hulk who he did not kill and is less durable than Adam? 😂 Good going, Stoic!

Less durable than Adam?