Black Lives Matter is a movement with actual goals and has an actual reason to exist. All Lives Matter is simply some platitude concocted by wellmeaning or not-so-well-meaning people who don't understand Black Lives Matter and what it means and think that Black Lives Matter means that other lives don't, or that other lives matter less.
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Re: Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Which nonsense holds more weight?
Black Lives Matter.
The first is addressing an existent problem.
The second is trying to sound bland and positive- while really just being unhelpful at best, and often outright trying to talk over those addressing a problem.
All of this "Black lives matter" bullshit is the direct cause of the white officers who've been killed or beaten up recently by black thugs. The thugs think they are justified in doing what they did to these policemen because of all the white policemen who've unjustly (according to their warped-ass logic) killed black men who've been breaking the law somehow. I just hope the bastard they caught for murdering the veteran police officer who was just pumping his gas at a service station gets his ass executed soon for his cowardly act. I'm sure his lawyer will try to get him off by using the "Black lives matter" BS excuse and ask for sympathy from the jury/judge. Hope the ****er burns in Hell.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
You realize more whites are killed by police than blacks right?
Yes, but there's also much more whites than blacks total, and a whole lot of incidents are ones where the person killed was doing things that in no way should've involved the level of force that killed them.
A number of Police have a tendency to escalate situations with black suspects in a way they don't with white suspects. Automatically classifying black suspects as 'thugs,' not trying to de-escalate the situation with words like they're supposed to, yadda yadda.
Also, when white people get killed, stuff is much more likely to get done about it. People fired and yada yada. When black people are, the police officers often don't even get a slap on the wrist, and public outcry is often needed to get departments to do *anything*.
Whether or not the officers and department are held accountable says a lot on who is considered to matter.
It's also in media coverage and reaction- Black person gets killed by an officer after they had, at most, committed a minor crime. The media and various people immediately try and tar them as a thug, say the officer did nothing wrong, etc. etc., and basically tell people that it's ok for officers to err on the side of excessive force just in case. See Star here, for an example.
There is a difference in treatment, it is clear and sizable and well-document (this is a big thing, it's not like it's just a matter of opinion, the statistics are clear), how much varies location to location, but it needs addressing, and trying to cover it up by replacing specific calls for action with generic platitudes is bad.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Black Lives Matter is a movement with actual goals and has an actual reason to exist. All Lives Matter is simply some platitude concocted by wellmeaning or not-so-well-meaning people who don't understand Black Lives Matter and what it means and think that Black Lives Matter means that other lives don't, or that other lives matter less./thread
Originally posted by Q99
Black Lives Matter.The first is addressing an existent problem.
The second is trying to sound bland and positive- while really just being unhelpful at best, and often outright trying to talk over those addressing a problem.
Originally posted by Q99
Yes, but there's also much more whites than blacks total, and a whole lot of incidents are ones where the person killed was doing things that in no way should've involved the level of force that killed them.A number of Police have a tendency to escalate situations with black suspects in a way they don't with white suspects. Automatically classifying black suspects as 'thugs,' not trying to de-escalate the situation with words like they're supposed to, yadda yadda.
Also, when white people get killed, stuff is much more likely to get done about it. People fired and yada yada. When black people are, the police officers often don't even get a slap on the wrist, and public outcry is often needed to get departments to do *anything*.
Whether or not the officers and department are held accountable says a lot on who is considered to matter.
It's also in media coverage and reaction- Black person gets killed by an officer after they had, at most, committed a minor crime. The media and various people immediately try and tar them as a thug, say the officer did nothing wrong, etc. etc., and basically tell people that it's ok for officers to err on the side of excessive force just in case. See Star here, for an example.
There is a difference in treatment, it is clear and sizable and well-document (this is a big thing, it's not like it's just a matter of opinion, the statistics are clear), how much varies location to location, but it needs addressing, and trying to cover it up by replacing specific calls for action with generic platitudes is bad.
This covers it.
"All Lives Matter" is a meaningless tag that anyone can subscribe to without having to think about what it means. "Black Lives Matter" addresses an actual issue in society.
Originally posted by Star428
All of this "Black lives matter" bullshit is the direct cause of the white officers who've been killed or beaten up recently by black thugs. The thugs think they are justified in doing what they did to these policemen because of all the white policemen who've unjustly (according to their warped-ass logic) killed black men who've been breaking the law somehow. I just hope the bastard they caught for murdering the veteran police officer who was just pumping his gas at a service station gets his ass executed soon for his cowardly act. I'm sure his lawyer will try to get him off by using the "Black lives matter" BS excuse and ask for sympathy from the jury/judge. Hope the ****er burns in Hell.
What about the white man that shot a police officer in the head when the
cop was just trying to help him? These people that are committing
murder aren't well mentally. You can't exactly place a color on mental
illnesses. Can you? The same thing applies for the black man that shot
the cop 15 times. He was mentally ill, and has a file that actually backs
up his insanity. What sane person runs around randomly killing
people?
Originally posted by Bardock42See, where everyone goes into politics with all this shit, I try to look at it in a Black&White point of view. (No pun intended).
Yes, all lives do matter, everyone agrees at face value. BUT we know statistically that to police officers, black lives matter less...that's why they need to be taught that black lives matter.
This is right, and this is wrong. The police officers who purposely killed those black men and women for no reason deserve what the blacks got.
However, it isn't just done to blacks.
What about that homeless white guy that police officers beat to death.
His father was also a police officer, so him being an officer didn't help anything, the courts didn't dish out justice to him either.
Why do you think people get so nervous around police officers? They do have a certain power about them, you can't hit them or fight back, you go outside having to worry about being KILLED by police officers, the people who are supposed to protect you.
Frankly, its sick.
However, its absolutely horrible that black people think they can kill officers and whites whenever they want, racism is always gonna be a thing. But, it shouldn't be.