Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter

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Originally posted by long pig
You seem victimized by my post...

He was, he's from Florida..

Originally posted by psmith81992
And this is the problem. You don't see any other minorities creating their own movement like this. If there's discrimination, all the minorities are getting it. Singling out one of them is just missing the point.

Where does this axiom that all minorities get the same discrimination come from? That's blatantly not true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where does this axiom that all minorities get the same discrimination come from? That's blatantly not true.

Then prove black people get discriminated more than others.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Then prove black people get discriminated more than others.

Block lives matter.

the thing that gets me about black lives matter is it's based on specific incidents that were media circuses more than anything else

like i want to be symapthetic to actual police brutality/racism.... but this movement basically grew out of the racial tension stirred up by trayvon and mike brown... one was a case of self defense by a citizen and the other was a lawful use of lethal force by a police officer... it's like if racism and brutality is as widespread as they say then why are the examples they rally behind BS media circuses?

Originally posted by Stringer
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Originally posted by red g jacks
the thing that gets me about black lives matter is it's based on specific incidents that were media circuses more than anything else

like i want to be symapthetic to actual police brutality/racism.... but this movement basically grew out of the racial tension stirred up by trayvon and mike brown... one was a case of self defense by a citizen and the other was a lawful use of lethal force by a police officer... it's like if racism and brutality is as widespread as they say then why are the examples they rally behind BS media circuses?

You understand that part of the problem that people are angry about is that police officers (or pseudo police officers) get away with their killings in the justice system. So you saying that both of those were legal killings, while true, doesn't speak against the problem. Both these young men were unarmed...it's ridiculous that police officers murder so many unarmed citizens. And it's even more ridiculous that they murder black unarmed citizens at twice the rate of white people (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/black-americans-killed-by-police-analysis).

question... do you really think that reaching for a cop's gun isn't a legit way to get shot?

Originally posted by red g jacks
question... do you really think that reaching for a cop's gun isn't a legit way to get shot?

Counter question, do you really think that stalking, confronting, fighting and shooting an unarmed, black kid should not have legal consequences?

LOL. Of course something like that should have consequences. But, unjustifiable killings you're referring to don't happen nearly as often as clueless people like you or many black people think. Probably at least 90-95% of the time the thugs who get shot were practically asking for it with their unlawful actions.

We know that police officers show more restraint when it comes to white people, "Black Lives Matter" asks that the same restraint is shown to black people. That makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Of course something like that should have consequences. But, unjustifiable killings you're referring to don't happen nearly as often as clueless people like you or many black people think. Probably at least 90-95% of the time the thugs who get shot were practically asking for it with their unlawful actions.

"The thugs" "Asking for it."

Or in other words, you don't think their lives matter, and you are fine with them being shot.

The problem is in similar situations, officers will try and de-escalate with white people doing the exact same thing. The officers think people acting the same way but with superficial differences matter more.

And note it's not just being shot. One of the famous recent killings was from a Baltimore police 'Rough Ride,' put in the back of a vehicle without a seatbelt while handcuffed, and had his back broken.

The practice while not always fatal, is common and has a common name when the Baltimore PD does it, because everyone knows they do it.

Counter question, do you really think that stalking, confronting, fighting and shooting an unarmed, black kid should not have legal consequences?

If you're referring to Zimmerman, I think the jury got it right but he's still an idiot. And remind us how many times that has happened?

Has anyone been paying attention to this?

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/former-tennis-star-jason-blake-mistaken-arrest-cop-shouldnt-get-n426381

Basically he was just standing by a hotel and a plainclothes cop tackled him because he looked "suspicious." I'm wondering why, as in the video he doesn't even appear to be dressed remotely "thuggish."

"Thug" is just a racist code word for a black person anyways.

And of course the cop should lose his job, and then he should have to pay damages. Police officers need to get the message that their actions have real consequences.

I don't think there's another profession where so many people will go up to bat for your job security when you make a horrible mistake. Where are the media support groups when a bus driver runs over a kid or a frycook gives you food poisoning?

Our media also glamourises the violent, rogue cop, that doesn't play by anyone's rules, but gets shit done. That certainly plays a role.

Our media? You don't live here.

Again it all boils down to Bardock being mad that he doesn't live in the country with the greatest amount of fast food options.