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Started by Bashar Teg5 pages
Originally posted by red g jacks

it's basically disingenuous because it's selectively dealing with stats in order to push some ideologically driven message. it's not a genuine assessment of which ethnic groups are more likely to pose a threat to your safety.

or you're just trying to fudge figures which concentrate underclass black people together while taking an overall average for white people regardless of class. yeah that's not dripping with ulterior motive.

Originally posted by red g jacks
i didn't say either one of those statements.

i'm too lazy to hunt down the stats so i'll just ask you... do you think someone who lives in the hood is more likely to be killed in the hood or to be killed while travelling outside that hood (presumably by a white guy 16-67)?

using the same logic: "obviously if we talk about a country which is 70% white, the number will reflect that fact"

why is that excuse valid when discussing the ethnic make-up of single neighborhoods but not when discussing the ethnic make-up of the country as a whole?

it's basically disingenuous because it's selectively dealing with stats in order to push some ideologically driven message. it's not a genuine assessment of which ethnic groups are more likely to pose a threat to your safety.

I never said the stat wasn't because of America being largely Caucasian. Caucasian males still kill more overall, as a group.

It's funny, there's countless post of people talking about how violent black people/ brown people are, it's seemingly alright.

I point out that you're more likely to get killed by a male Caucasian in America as a whole(not just in one poor section of Detroit), statistically speaking, and suddenly the tears start flowing. "You can't say that!" -Whitey

Originally posted by Robtard
-Whitey

no, you don't get to say that word. that's OUR WORD.

Just don't kill me, American Caucasian male.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
or you're just trying to fudge figures which concentrate underclass black people together while taking an overall average for white people regardless of class. yeah that's not dripping with ulterior motive.

Originally posted by Robtard
I never said the stat wasn't because of America being largely Caucasian. Caucasian males still kill more overall, as a group.

It's funny, there's countless post of people talking about how violent black people/ brown people are, it's seemingly alright.

I point out that you're more likely to get killed by a male Caucasian in America as a whole(not just in one poor section of Detroit), statistically speaking, and suddenly the tears start flowing. "You can't say that!" -Whitey

lol, please.

i'm just pointing out the obvious. you are more likely to be killed in a majority white country by a white person... shocking. you are more likely to be killed in a majority black neighborhood by a black person.... also shocking. in other news, water is still wet.

funny thing is, if we really want to talk about race and crime statistics, black people are more likely to be killed by other black people than white people are to be killed by ANY race. by a pretty wide margin. regardless of their socio-economic status.

reminds me of how someone posted a thread a while back saying that black americans are much more likely to be murdered than white americans.... and then proceeded to suggest they were largely being murdered by white police, while the reality is they are mostly killed by black criminals.

if it was so obvious you probably wouldn't need to fudge the figures to prove your point.

Despite his previous fudging, it now seems like he's agreeing that the greatest threat to someone in America is a male Caucasian. So good enough for me 👆

what figures did i fudge?

did you guys know that you're much more likely to be killed by a woman if you live in a female prison? why these bitches so violent man?

Comparing Caucasian males as a whole to improvised Black people, when we all know that poverty increases crime rates, generally speaking 👆

"living in a female prison" is once again a very specific geography and doesn't represent America as a whole 👆 👆

all i did was point out why your statement was disingenous

i'll give you this: it's not completely meaningless. it literally means that overall more murders are committed by white men.

this does not, however, mean that white men 16-67 are the most dangerous demographic to you no matter who you are

that's what you said, and it's incorrect. that stat doesn't back up that statement. it only demonstrates that you have a hazy understanding of statistics. because if you are black man in a certain age demographic, statistically you are much more likely to be killed by another black man in said age demographic. so your statement only applies to the vast majority of whites and a minority of non-whites who live in mostly white areas. it doesn't apply to a good chunk of the population, which you choose to dismiss or ignore because you're a condescending white racist who doesn't care about black deaths. see... i can spin shit too. whitey.

also, to fudge the stats means to fake or falsify them. so again, specifically which stats did i fudge? if you answer with anything other than a false statistic that i posted, then you are not answering the question and are just making baseless accusations.

Glad you agree it's not a meaningless statement.

'to fudge something' can mean a few thing, not just "fake or falsify".

I love to see Rob get creamed in a debate and then his racism comes out against caucasians.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I love to see Rob get creamed in a debate and then his racism comes out against caucasians.

Creamed? Red Jacks just agreed that my statement wasn't meaningless in the point that it was meant 👆

Originally posted by red g jacks

i'll give you this: it's not completely meaningless. it literally means that overall more murders are committed by white men.

How am I racist by stating an observed statistic? BTW, I'm also Caucasian 👆

your original statement was actually incorrect.. specifically the "no matter who you are" part

your general point that whites commit the most murders overall is factually correct and thus not meaningless... though what you can extrapolate from that is another question... as well as what larger point you were trying to make

but sure, if that's all you need for a technical victory to satisfy you, then do your thing, mayweather. as for me i come on here to talk shit and discuss actual ideas...

Originally posted by Robtard

How am I racist by stating an observed statistic? BTW, I'm also Caucasian 👆
i know you are, whitey. i was saying you're ignoring the black murder rates cause black deaths don't mean as much to you. racist.

Originally posted by red g jacks
your original statement was actually incorrect.. specifically the "no matter who you are" part

your general point that whites commit the most murders overall is factually correct and thus not meaningless... though what you can extrapolate from that is another question... as well as what larger point you were trying to make

but sure, if that's all you need for a technical victory to satisfy you, then do your thing, mayweather. as for me i come on here to talk shit and discuss actual ideas...

It was factually correct, as I wasn't specifically referring to "murders in the hood", "murders in Aspen during winter break" etc.

Good. That's all it was, I didn't imply that Caucasian males are all a bunch of murderous savages, that was other people's kneejerks. Really, I have no idea why so many whiteboys flipped out, when it's a statistic that can be looked up.

Lol, you're literally agreeing that what I said is correct, but still sour about it. Weird.

Originally posted by red g jacks
i know you are, whitey. i was saying you're ignoring the black murder rates cause black deaths don't mean as much to you. racist.

That comment was to TI, who apparently thinks I'm a non-Caucasian racist who hates Caucasians. He knows nothing.

Originally posted by red g jacks

but sure, if that's all you need for a technical victory to satisfy you, then do your thing, mayweather. as for me i come on here to talk shit and discuss actual ideas...

You actually figured Rob out, I finally figured this out last week and blocked him. He only comes here for an ewin, and to punch holes in arguments rather then actually discuss the issues as a whole, and he just loves do it, also he isn't white.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You actually figured Rob out, I finally figured this out last week and blocked him. He only comes here for an ewin, and to punch holes in arguments rather then actually discuss the issues as a whole, and he just loves do it, also he isn't white.

LoL, what a troll.

Reported.