Except your quotes still fly in the face of what the Ruusan Reformations did, which was to change the millions of small sectors to 1,024 enormous ones. That building is clearly large enough and a very close-up image of seating we see is cram-packed with senators.
Realising of course how enormous the entire building seems to be when looked at from the POV of the duel. Meaning that the actual stands which stretched right around the podium itself in a wide arc, which all appear very wide and long in other images could most certainly be large enough.
That thing looks far larger than practically every stadium I have seen, some of which contain six digit capacities.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rCy173y7Y&t=0m10s
... Where?
And not the Jedi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA
"With his first words, Exar Kun uttered a powerful Sith
spell, freezing the entire Senate chamber, save a few Jedi.
However, they were held in check by the Massassi
Warriors that Kun and Mandalore had brought with them."
--Star Wars: Galaxy Guide 14: The Dark SideI'm 99% sure I've already addressed this in our past Exar Kun debate but you decided not to respond since I laughed at your BS.
Master Vodo Siosk-Baas wasn't remotely "stomped" in the battle, though I do admit he stood "no chance" in defeating Exar Kun - because that wasn't his goal.
"Because I was his Master, I alone of the allied Jedi went to confront him, hoping that I could turn him back. I knew it was a foolish mission, but I had no choice. I had to try."
―Vodo Siosk-Baas (Star Wars: Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force)Master Vodo-Siosk Baas's goal was to turn Exar Kun back to the light, something explicitly seen in the battle. Another source confirms this, saying Vodo Siosk-Baas did not try to defeat Exar Kun until the very end of the duel, in which Vodo had already grew weaker from defending himself. Finally, just when the Jedi Master vowed to meet his apprentice's charge, he was struck down, never allowing us to see how the battle would have then played out.
"But Master Vodo-Siosk Baas stepped onto the floor: the diminutive Jedi would stand against him. Exar Kun battled his old Master, using a doublebladed lightsaber and all the Sith tricks he had learned. He tried to lure Vodo to join his Sith cause, but the Jedi Master refused. As the fight continued, Vodo grew weaker and Kun gained strength. Finally, just as Vodo vowed that he would defeat Exar Kun, the Dark Lord struck with his lightsaber and killed his teacher."
―Star Wars: Essential ChronologyAdditionally, the above quote also shows a different perspective of the battle. Exar Kun unleashed all his powers against the Jedi Master, including Sith magic and sorcery, yet Master Vodo-Siosk Baas seemingly resisted it all. Despite the Dark Lord of the Sith giving his all, and the Jedi simply defending himself, Master Baas' stand against Exar Kun shows that even when having no defense the modifications of his changing lightsaber blade, powerful combatants can hold their own.
Then what do you call being strapped to the giant pyramid of destiny? Just something that's casual in an everyday draining?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdtKbq3Omkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM
The temples the Maasassi constructed near Revan was under the supervision of Naga Sadow. Said temples were fully completed to where rituals and sacrifices could be completed. Likewise, the mutations of the Maasassi in the area were completed by none other, once again, by Naga Sadow. You claimed the Temple of Sacrifice was probably built by Exar Kun. I laughed in your face and supplied you with codex entries pretty much directly stating otherwise. You're resorting to ancient quotes and dogma that do not have more authority over the details on Revan's temples than the actual source material itself. It's possible, and at this point rather likely, they both did the process, but once again it demonstrates Exar Kun doing nothing special and pretty much copying / using the work of other great Sith Lords for his own cause - which was a failure.
Between the lines of my trolling, laughing, and amusement, indeed.
>"ancient power"
>"evidence"First off, kek @ "limit this to creatures." You do know what alchemy is, right?
Yeah, lol. Malaphar the Savage >. That's sort of the whole point of the discussion.
You do realize you engaged in a hypothetical debate under the impression that Revan, did in fact, make the Maasassi? I sort of said that back at square one, and even admitted I don't have it on my respect thread given how vague it is. I do plan on adding it, but even then it won't be without a disclaimer saying it's merely a likely possibility based off the information presented and authorial intent.
Kun is the strongest member on team 1 so naturally he should face Vitiate. Since we know how much Vitiate respected/was wary of Kun, I doubt he would try to mindrape him(and for the sake of argument I guess, as an outright shinny force fight between them would be more fun). Vitiate will naturally win though Kun won't go down without a decent fight.
Revan should defeat anyone else in team 1 and HoT managed to hold his ground against a weakened Vitiate. His defenses are simply too great and would stall his enemy pretty efficiently. With that said, the lack of melee in this fight will be his downfall. However, the 2 most important fights will be between Kun-Vitiate and Revan-(Whoever he faces). So team 2 wins.
I concede the point that the Jedi were indeed there, I had mistakened Vodo's lone arrival as that of the other Jedi's arrival.
A point to be made here is that Kun's own dialogue during the scene indicates he was specifically targeting the Senators so as to render them inert. Even mocking them.
You suggest that Kun is incapable of dominating the Jedi around him, when this is simply untrue. After destroying Vodo (something I'll correct you on for the second time later.) He still casually dismissed Sylvar, a Jedi so strong in the Force she was capable of slaughtering a Killik Nest by herself. The other Jedi were clearly helpless themselves, which is in stark contrast to how they easily disarmed and captured Ulic Qel-Droma.
Yet Exar Kun himself had attempted to convert Vodo in turn. Once he realised Vodo would never join him, he unleashed his full skill and cut him down. Showing that contrary to your claim he was no match for Kun's dual-blades. You use a singular source to claim Kun used all his powers to kill him when the depiction of the fight itself is a pure duel. Glad to see you acknowledge statements declaring Vodo never had a chance.
Seriously? Kun had to quickly prepare the ritual, the ritual itself being done via the pyramid he is strapped to. It clearly states that Kun drains the sacrifices first, his power grows and he begins the ritual channeling that power through the Sith objects he is strapped to.
Yes your sources are correct in regards to the fact the Temple of Sacrifice was a Naga Sadow construct. You are however making a leap in logic by claiming Exar Kun didn't finish the temples across the planet when even TOTJ itself shows otherwise.
He had the knowledge of Sadow, Nadd and the Tedryn Holocron, knowledge stated to be far more than he would ever need to learn. Knowledge that is also stated to have been lost with him.
Exar Kun waged a war that nearly won him the galaxy and nearly destroyed a fresh & strong Republic/Jedi Order. He didn't need a Star Forge or to attack a weak Republic by surprise with access codes and all that jazz to do it either.
Yes trolling is certainly what you are best at, though you aren't particularly good at it.
Do you know what alchemy is? It's imbuing/creating objects(I.E weapons, armor, trinkets) and Sith spawn with sorcery. Something Kun is praised for.
You went off on a tangent that Malaphar the Savage is a greater production of Alchemy than anything Kun made and laughed that Revan surpassed him. When I pointed out the Dark Reaper you immediately backtracked to only alchemical beasts. Concede already.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
We only take TOR's characters' feats at face value because
Because, if we took Galen's feats at face value, he is clearly > Revan.
Rag-dolling the strike team, pales in comparison to incinerating half a frigate, while no selling temperatures comparable to that of star's surface via barrier. But some don't take that argument as valid, because TFU multimedia series allegedly exaggerated the abilities of characters in the series, 'cause the shits cool.
With that said, and if it is true, the authorial intent was for Galen to be in the upper-Echleon of Force users, as stated by Haden Blackman himself in an interview, and his overall potential was > Palpatine. And the clone, was even more powerful than Marek himself.
So yeah, depending on how you see it, Galen > Revan isn't a silly notion, and I'm honestly leaning towards that way myself these days.
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Also, I don't excatly take TOR bullshit at face value either - whenever someone says Marr's defense is better than planitery shields, I die in the inside, because it's beyond retarded.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I just pulled out my favorite noose when I noticed you actually think people take Marr > planetary shield seriously.
Then it shouldn't be mentioned at all, you coon. No one brings up Corran's nanosecond reaction feat when discussing him, because that type of hyperbole is beyond retarded and beyond any worthwhile use, besides "he's good".
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ Revan takes 'Killer tho
Not really.