Blue Marvel VS Hulk(DOC GREEN):TO THE DEATH

Started by carver97 pages
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
But how will Hulk hit him, he isn't as fast as BM and can't fly, while you agree that enough blows/blasts will bring Hulk down.

Unless Blue Marvel has shown he can consistently fight like Barry, then I'm not buying it. I go by on panel showings here and looking at BM fights against Hyperion, Ant Man, etc... he loves to fight up close and personal.

Originally posted by carver9
Unless Blue Marvel has shown he can consistently fight like Barry, then I'm not buying it. I go by on panel showings here and looking at BM fights against Hyperion, Ant Man, etc... he loves to fight up close and personal.

Hyperion and Anti Man have the same level of Superspeed though. This comparision won't work here for the Hulk.

A guy who nearly split the moon with a small chunk of metal and caught an asteroid the size of a state with no problem should be able to shake planets and continents with his punches as well.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Hyperion and Anti Man have the same level of Superspeed though. This comparision won't work here for the Hulk.

A weakened Juggernaut matched Hyperion during a fist cuff. Then you have to prove that Hyperion and BM was moving at super speed. Show me some Anti Man speed fts please. Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
A weakened Juggernaut matched Hyperion during a fist cuff. Then you have to prove that Hyperion and BM was moving at super speed. Show me some Anti Man speed fts please. Scans.

So you are telling me that Hulks only chance to win is Blue Marvel acting like Hyperion against Juggernaut? IOW BM being stupid enough to make it a slugfest, against Hulk? Well if this is your only argument why Hulk wins, sorry not buying it^^. This would require a lot of CIS.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So you are telling me that Hulks only chance to win is Blue Marvel acting like Hyperion against Juggernaut? IOW BM being stupid enough to make it a slugfest, against Hulk? Well if this is your only argument why Hulk wins, sorry not buying it^^. This would require a lot of CIS.

What showings of BM are you using that makes you think he will fight the ways you are suggesting?

Originally posted by carver9
What showings of BM are you using that makes you think he will fight the ways you are suggesting?
using his super speed to fly through Shuma gorath, using his super speed to fly across the world and battle ultimo, using his super speed to counter sentry's super speed?

Originally posted by deathslash
using his super speed to fly through Shuma gorath, using his super speed to fly across the world and battle ultimo, using his super speed to counter sentry's super speed?

So he is going to flu fast at Hulk? Do I need to post scans of Hulk busting people in the face attempting this? He also blind sided Shuma. Hulk has fts of slapping people that is coming at him at high speeds. Those speed fts doesn't prove that he will overwhelm Hulk. Also, show me him and Sentry fighting at high speeds.

In Carver's world, only if there are speed lines does it mean that speed is being used.

IOW, Damian Wayne is faster in combat than Blue Marvel/Sentry.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In Carver's world, only if there are speed lines does it mean that speed is being used.

IOW, Damian Wayne is faster in combat than Blue Marvel/Sentry.

Naah, just proof. Do you have that proof?

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, just proof. Do you have that proof?

Yep, of course I do.

Here is Robin, whilst poisoned, punching at superspeed:
http://i.imgur.com/80lyOPx.png

Agreed?

Why do we know it is at superspeed?

Because of the art.

Here is the Sentry/Blue Marvel fight:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1031145-albm_05_009.jpg

They are NOT using superspeed.

How do we know?

Because of the art.

Never mind the fact that no body can punch slowly with that amount of power (imagine how fast your fist has to move to bloody BM). No, speedlines and manga style art is all that's needed.

Therefore, a weakened Damian is > Blue Marvel and Sentry in reaction speed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yep, of course I do.

Here is Robin, whilst poisoned, punching at superspeed:
http://i.imgur.com/80lyOPx.png

Agreed?

Why do we know it is at superspeed?

Because of the art.

Here is the Sentry/Blue Marvel fight:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1031145-albm_05_009.jpg

They are NOT using superspeed.

How do we know?

Because of the art.

Never mind the fact that no body can punch slowly with that amount of power (imagine how fast your fist has to move to bloody BM). No, speedlines and manga style art is all that's needed.

Therefore, a weakened Damian is > Blue Marvel and Sentry in reaction speed.

wooo, logic.

Originally posted by KingD19
A guy who nearly split the moon with a small chunk of metal and caught an asteroid the size of a state with no problem should be able to shake planets and continents with his punches as well.

He did not nearly split the moon with a small chunk of metal (ie his medal). He physically punched the moon.

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Originally posted by -K-M-
This is the "moon splitting feat" for Marvel.

1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-013_zps4dded4ec.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AdamBlueMarvel-014_zpsdc2f0485.jpg

People need to realize he PUNCHED the moon, he didn't throw the medal through the moon. He even returns years later to get the medal back which is still on the surface. Hell he is shown HOLDING the medal after he punches the moon just a few panels later

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yep, of course I do.

Here is Robin, whilst poisoned, punching at superspeed:
http://i.imgur.com/80lyOPx.png

Agreed?

Why do we know it is at superspeed?

Because of the art.

Here is the Sentry/Blue Marvel fight:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1031145-albm_05_009.jpg

They are NOT using superspeed.

How do we know?

Because of the art.

Never mind the fact that no body can punch slowly with that amount of power (imagine how fast your fist has to move to bloody BM). No, speedlines and manga style art is all that's needed.

Therefore, a weakened Damian is > Blue Marvel and Sentry in reaction speed.

This applies to Hulk too, right?

Yes. Damian is > than Hulk, too. How much faster? I will count the number of fists in the same panel.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes. Damian is > than Hulk, too. How much faster? I will count the number of fists in the same panel.

Are you saying Damian is faster than Hulk?

Based on your criteria of only using manga style speed lines, yes.

Shall I quote you where you use the art style to justify your opinion?

Note: I am only using your argument against you. I don't SERIOUSLY believe that Wayne>Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on your criteria of only using manga style speed lines, yes.

Shall I quote you where you use the art style to justify your opinion?

Note: I am only using your argument against you. I don't SERIOUSLY believe that Wayne>Hulk.

So super fast punches is the reason he is faster?

To the death?
Blue Marvel.

Fisticuffs to the death?
Hulk.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He did not nearly split the moon with a small chunk of metal (ie his medal). He physically punched the moon.

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Looked like he threw the medal to me. Do you have that scan of him holding the medal several panels later? Actually why don't you post the entire sequence? Also whether or not he threw the medal, which nearly splits the moon in half or punches it, doesn't that show WW Hulk level strength alone? Is that not enough power to shake the planet?

I think I missed the Doc Green showing of him shaking the planet. Anyone have those scans?