Originally posted by carver9
So super fast punches is the reason he is faster?
So as Robin has 6 punches in the same scan, using your logic, Robin is 2x as fast as Hulk?
Note, again - I never said that the art equals speed. YOU, Carver, are the one arguing that just because there are no manga style speed lines, there is no speed.
How fast do you think BM's fists are when they punch Sentry? When he throws a medal to the moon?
Originally posted by carver9
That was weird. I thought Loeb also wrote Rulk breaking Hulk's neck with him surviving.
Only arm.
http://i.stack.imgur.com/Tgy1h.jpg
He got choked out after that.
Originally posted by carver9
He did throw a medal.
That's what it looked like to me. But no matter how he hit the moon, it still shows planet shaking power. Do you have any scans of Doc Green shaking the planet? My attention span for most things Marvel has diminished. The new Secret Wars was really handled very poorly.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Wow he didn't throw the medal through the moon, he is shown a few panels later still HOLDING the medal (of bravery) and then he tosses it to the ground gently and flys away. Years later he returns and finds the medal exactly where he threw it.
That medal sure must be pretty durable to be able to split a moon in half
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So as Robin has 6 punches in the same scan, using your logic, Robin is 2x as fast as Hulk?Note, again - I never said that the art equals speed. YOU, Carver, are the one arguing that just because there are no manga style speed lines, there is no speed.
How fast do you think BM's fists are when they punch Sentry? When he throws a medal to the moon?
This is when context must supersede the artwork. Let's all remember
that the artist attempts to follow the story and not the story trying to
follow the artwork.
This is what people are referring to:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40000/1306707-adam_blue_marvel__013.jpg
So no, he COULD have. But he didn't.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So as Robin has 6 punches in the same scan, using your logic, Robin is 2x as fast as Hulk?Note, again - I never said that the art equals speed. YOU, Carver, are the one arguing that just because there are no manga style speed lines, there is no speed.
How fast do you think BM's fists are when they punch Sentry? When he throws a medal to the moon?
Hulk has 6 punches as well.
Also, do you think Blue Marvel and Sentry are fighting at super speed? If so, why?
Originally posted by -K-M-
That medal sure must be pretty durable to be able to split a moon in half
Thank you. I fully agree with you. i never noticed that detail. Great catch
you should take up photography, and I'm not saying that to be sarcastic
you have decent spacial awareness skills. Again great catch.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's what it looked like to me. But no matter how he hit the moon, it still shows planet shaking power. Do you have any scans of Doc Green shaking the planet? My attention span for most things Marvel has diminished. The new Secret Wars was really handled very poorly.
He did it when fighting the Alternate Hulk and did it here as well.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk and Rulk fight again and Hulk shows some martial arts skill. He also stomps Rulk proving he is the Omega and the planet is shaking during their scuffle. Hulk has shown time and time again that he has the best punching power in comics.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has 6 punches as well.Also, do you think Blue Marvel and Sentry are fighting at super speed? If so, why?
In total.
Look at Robin's again. He has six punches just with his right hand. Five with his left. Prob one off panel, so let's round up to 12 punches in one panel.
Whereas Hulk has 6 total. So 12, vs 2, is 2x as fast.
Let me focus in for you. Note, I am not using the later panel, which shows even MORE punches - because it makes Hulk look worse.
Bear in mind, too, that Robin is poisoned.
Again, this is using your logic of relying on art.
Why do I think they are at speed? Go get a punching bag. Try and punch it hard. Imagine you are punching/throwing a medal hard it enough to potentially crack the moon in half.
How fast do you think your fist is moving then?
Imagine how fast the Sentry can fly. Now imagine him being punched so hard he flies into orbit, through a space station (at the end of his flight), and he still continues along his flight path. All against his will.
Imagine how fast BM's fist was flying at the moment of impact. Going back to my example, imagine trying to send that punching bag flying away from you. Punch fast, then slow. Which speed makes the bag fly further?
Originally posted by Stoic
Looked like he threw the medal to me. Do you have that scan of him holding the medal several panels later? Actually why don't you post the entire sequence? Also whether or not he threw the medal, which nearly splits the moon in half or punches it, doesn't that show WW Hulk level strength alone? Is that not enough power to shake the planet?I think I missed the Doc Green showing of him shaking the planet. Anyone have those scans?
He punched the moon. He threw the medal after.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In total.Look at Robin's again. He has six punches just with his right hand. Five with his left. Prob one off panel, so let's round up to 12 punches in one panel.
Whereas Hulk has 6 total. So 12, vs 2, is 2x as fast.
Let me focus in for you. Note, I am not using the later panel, which shows even MORE punches - because it makes Hulk look worse.
Bear in mind, too, that Robin is poisoned.
Again, this is using your logic of relying on art.
Why do I think they are at speed? Go get a punching bag. Try and punch it hard. Imagine you are punching/throwing a medal hard it enough to potentially crack the moon in half.
How fast do you think your fist is moving then?
Imagine how fast the Sentry can fly. Now imagine him being punched so hard he flies into orbit, through a space station (at the end of his flight), and he still continues along his flight path. All against his will.
Imagine how fast BM's fist was flying at the moment of impact. Going back to my example, imagine trying to send that punching bag flying away from you. Punch fast, then slow. Which speed makes the bag fly further?
So if I provide a scene of Hulk punching someone out of orbit...Doc Green, that should suffice huh?
