Does it here as well.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22837414/Hulk_2014-_014-012.jpg.html
Remember, Rulk was amped to the 9th degree.
Originally posted by carver9
So if I provide a scene of Hulk punching someone out of orbit...Doc Green, that should suffice huh?
Erm, I don't think you know what you're arguing, lol.
Your original point was asking where were Sentry/BM fighting at superspeed.
My point was, just because they didn't have manga style speed lines and afterflickers, doesn't mean they weren't at high speed. The fact they were drawing blood and punching fliers into orbit is proof that their fists were moving at superspeed (you can't punch hard and slow at the same time).
So not sure what your Doc Green orbit punches have to do with Sentry/BM's fight, lol.
Originally posted by carver9
Does it here as well.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22837414/Hulk_2014-_014-012.jpg.html
Remember, Rulk was amped to the 9th degree.
Rulk shook the planet when he hit A-Bomb as well. Do you remember?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, I don't think you know what you're arguing, lol.Your original point was asking where were Sentry/BM fighting at superspeed.
My point was, just because they didn't have manga style speed lines and afterflickers, doesn't mean they weren't at high speed. The fact they were drawing blood and punching fliers into orbit is proof that their fists were moving at superspeed (you can't punch hard and slow at the same time).
So not sure what your Doc Green orbit punches have to do with Sentry/BM's fight, lol.
You brought up BM punching Sentry out of orbit as a speed ft. Anyways, the reason you gave of them fighting at high speeds isn't legit.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, I don't think you know what you're arguing, lol.Your original point was asking where were Sentry/BM fighting at superspeed.
My point was, just because they didn't have manga style speed lines and afterflickers, doesn't mean they weren't at high speed. The fact they were drawing blood and punching fliers into orbit is proof that their fists were moving at superspeed (you can't punch hard and slow at the same time).
So not sure what your Doc Green orbit punches have to do with Sentry/BM's fight, lol.
Yes let's deal with first things first. my point was just to say that BM has
comparable punching power to even the best out there.
Originally posted by carver9
You brought up BM punching Sentry out of orbit as a speed ft. Anyways, the reason you gave of them fighting at high speeds isn't legit.
Yes, because it is.
Try punching something hard, but slowly at the same time. Go on. Make it out of tinfoil if you want.
Let me guess, you HAD to punch with your fist moving quickly, correct?? Yes or no.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup.Now, please answer my question.
Why do you NOT think there was any speed present? Is it because of the art?
Don't dodge. Everytime you ask a point blank question, I answer it. So answer mine.
I don't think any speed was going on during their battle because nothing was given to me to make me believe either were moving super fast.
So BM punching him out of orbit is the speed ft? So if I post Hulk doing the same, that means he can match BM?
Originally posted by carver9
So him punching someone out of orbit is the speed ft?
No fighting someone that has super speed and staying at their level is considered to be a character capable of moving at super speed. When Gladiator fought Hyperion in space, it may not have appeared to be them moving at super speed but they probably were. Why wouldn't they be if they were both trying to beat each other? if they were trying to beat each other, and they both possess super speed, then why wouldn't they be using it? i mean they are trying to win right? BM has legit super speed, as does the Sentry, and King Hyperion.
Also when you say that BM doesn't have comparable punching power to the best out there, this kind of sort of paints you into a corner, especially since some of the best have yet to even nearly split the moon with one punch.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think any speed was going on during their battle because nothing was given to me to make me believe either were moving super fast.So BM punching him out of orbit is the speed ft? So if I post Hulk doing the same, that means he can match BM?
The Hulk is certainly fast, and he does have super speed. I don't think he moves as fast as the Sentry, or BM does though. He has crazy reaction time feats as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
No fighting someone that has super speed and staying at their level is considered to be a character capable of moving at super speed. When Gladiator fought Hyperion in space, it may not have appeared to be them moving at super speed but they probably were. Why wouldn't they be if they were both trying to beat each other? if they were trying to beat each other, and they both possess super speed, then why wouldn't they be using it? i mean they are trying to win right? BM has legit super speed, as does the Sentry, and King Hyperion.Also when you say that BM doesn't have comparable punching power to the best out there, this kind of sort of paints you into a corner, especially since some of the best have yet to even nearly split the moon with one punch.
Originally posted by Stoic
No fighting someone that has super speed and staying at their level is considered to be a character capable of moving at super speed. When Gladiator fought Hyperion in space, it may not have appeared to be them moving at super speed but they probably were. Why wouldn't they be if they were both trying to beat each other? if they were trying to beat each other, and they both possess super speed, then why wouldn't they be using it? i mean they are trying to win right? BM has legit super speed, as does the Sentry, and King Hyperion.Also when you say that BM doesn't have comparable punching power to the best out there, this kind of sort of paints you into a corner, especially since some of the best have yet to even nearly split the moon with one punch.
Hulk has fought everyone in M.U (minus abstracts of course) and kept up fine with them. If fighting someone is all it takes to prove that someone is a high speed pacer then Hulk beats everyone in this field. Hulk has fought Sentry and Hyperion as well. Don't understand what this have to do with the discussion at hand.
He didn't split the moon though and even then, those fts are not comparable at all to the best of punchers out there. You are literally comparing him to a being that has reversed time with a punch, punch through a time stream, punching...you get the point. BM is good but that moon showing doesn't compare to what Hulk has done. Not even close.