Originally posted by carver9
Ok. Don't forget the word "almost".
Why should she?
The words from the Watcher clearly state you COULD have split the moon in two, not you ALMOST split the moon in two. YOU'RE the one changing the text.
Others have calculated it. The answer is 3x10^28 Joules. Or, IOW, 10^13 large nukes of a megaton in energy.
So the Watcher was telling BM, you COULD have split the moon, so he believes BM is fully capable of outputting that amount of energy.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why should she?The words from the Watcher clearly state you COULD have split the moon in two, not you ALMOST split the moon in two. YOU'RE the one changing the text.
Others have calculated it. The answer is 3x10^28 Joules. Or, IOW, 10^13 large nukes of a megaton in energy.
So the Watcher was telling BM, you COULD have split the moon, so he believes BM is fully capable of outputting that amount of energy.
So "could have" is a solid argument to you?
Originally posted by carver9
So "could have" is a solid argument to you?
Hell of a lot of difference to 'almost', which is what you were saying he said.
You almost had a point.
You COULD have had a point.
See the difference?
Not to mention, it's also the person saying it which makes a difference.
If Reed says, 'Hulk, you could have destroyed the Eastern Seaboard', that is a hell of a difference than Carver9 saying 'Hulk almost destroyed the Eastern Seaboard'.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm talking about the first fight that they had, not when Rulk was amped
in the second fight. What you're saying makes little sense. If Doc Green
was dominant enough to beat Rulk in the first showing, he would have
knocked him out, and taken the sample forcibly. Rulk wouldn't have
broken BM's arm, not if he can't even defeat Wonder Man. Or are you
saying that Wonder Man is above BM as well? Why not go the extra
and say that Wonder man is above King Hyperion as well? You seem
ready to spin the tale to suit a skewed perspective, but unable to do
the same for BM when he beat King Hyperion up. The only difference
here is that Rulk beat Doc Green in the first fight, while King Hyperion
only stunned Blue Marvel only to get hit with more force than he could
take. Doc Green and the Indestructible Hulk are two different Hulk's.
Same body different mind set. The Hulk gets his power from his mind.
But if you want to play that game, I guess we should say that Merged
Hulk and Indestructible Hulk are also the same. Or that Indestructible
Hulk is the Green Scar.Doc Green struggled against Rulk, while BM beat King Hyperion. We
saw Doc Green pushed to the limit by Rulk. There is no way that Rulk
is beating BM. Not even close.
The first fight they had, you are correct, Rulk wasn't amped but Hulk allowed him to pound on him to get samples of turning him back to Ross. They had a total of 3 fights and during 2 of those, Rulk was amped.
The second fight, Rulk tells us he was absorbing large quantities of radiation and yes, he temp koed Hulk who thrashed him the second go round. So, Rulk wasn't amped during the first fight and Doc allowed him to pound on him for access on how to depower him. The second and 3rd fight, Rulk was amped.
Originally posted by carver9
The first fight they had, you are correct, Rulk wasn't amped but Hulk allowed him to pound on him to get samples of turning him back to Ross. They had a total of 3 fights and during 2 of those, Rulk was amped.The second fight, Rulk tells us he was absorbing large quantities of radiation and yes, he temp koed Hulk who thrashed him the second go round. So, Rulk wasn't amped during the first fight and Doc allowed him to pound on him for access on how to depower him. The second and 3rd fight, Rulk was amped.
Here is the scan. The bullet was made to prevent him from absorbing Radiation. Doesn't mean it took away the amp he already received.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22837408/Hulk_2014-_014-006.jpg.html
Also, Stoic, this scan answers your question. Hulk tells us he was playing possum and allowed Rulk to beat him. No denying hard core proof buddy.
Here is more proof.
Originally posted by carver9
Here is the scan. The bullet was made to prevent him from absorbing Radiation. Doesn't mean it took away the amp he already received.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22837408/Hulk_2014-_014-006.jpg.html
Also, Stoic, this scan answers your question. Hulk tells us he was playing possum and allowed Rulk to beat him. No denying hard core proof buddy.
Here is more proof.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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I think Blue Marvel can pull some wins. But people are kinda wanking him a little. He is definitely a peer with the big boys and is as every bit as powerful but lets be realistic, yall are literally rehashing the same four feats over and over.
1. Lifting Arkansas- obviously high herald level strength, and can put the dukes up with Thor, Hulk etc. But hardly that impressive when you compare it to some.
2. Sentry fight- harder to judge since Sentry is so inconsistent but damn good showing at least
3. King Hyperion- probably the most impressive to me, that Hype had already killed Sentriea, Thors, Hulks and other Blue Marvels. This right here puts Blue Marvel as close to the top of the food chain imo, really good showing, no reason to believe he couldnt take some wins over Hulk in a K.O match
4.Almost breaking a moon, impressive, but when Hulk and Thor have already broken planets and things. Its not exactly a game changer.
I see these 4 things posted over and over for BM, and thats it. And those are used as pretty much arguments for him beating everybody.
I think BM can possibly kill the Hulk with anti-matter somehow, but he certainly isnt beating him to death. So hulk wins a majority due to stips.
.if this was just BM beating Hulk, then yeah, better versatility and comparable strength should give him some wins. But rehashing the same 4 feats over and over doesent compare to the 60 years or so Hulk has going for him.
The Ultimates are on the way (title is going to be awesome). We will see how much of a threat Blue Marvel is. And the Ultimates look like a pretty powerful team. Blue Marvel may or should eventually meet up with the Hulk, or a peer of the Hulk's and then we will see how he measures up. Doc Green has not proven that he is capable of taking on the Sentry like the Green Scar did. I think that this would be a good fight, but Blue Marvel should win before Doc Green ramps up enough to take him out.
