Originally posted by TheNuisanceBirdSo the feat isn't either way. Maybe in the new film this will occur but as it stands now they can't do so in continuity.
He almost made an appearance in TCW during that Yoda arc. Unlike Darth Bane who had a completely different appearance, Revan looked the same. So he has at least been considered. Still, Darth Thor made a good point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you admit it's weaker yourself. Luke survived over ten seconds from the most powerful Sith Lord ever and walked away without a scratch. Could he survive ten shots from a blaster ?A bullet is more powerful than poison but both clearly kill. Blasters are more powerful than fl which is rather pathetic tbh.
No, I'm not admitting that at all. You cannot measure the power of a blaster bolt in the same way as you could measure the power of Force lightning. When you fire a blaster, the bolt has a specific amount of energy. But the energy of a lightning attack is a function of the user's own Force power. And a user can vary the strength of the attack in ways that a blaster's strength can't.
Exactly how does poison have "power" at all? A bullet can have velocity, but how do you measure the "power" of poison? Velocity is not an property that poison even takes on. You're trying to compare things that physically cannot be compared.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede the point that it wasn't that ability uses in the film thus no examples of it being used against blasters.
The only thing you've proven is that the ability Vader used wasn't called tutaminis. But that doesn't ****ing matter. You can call it tutamins, or Force deflection, or cranberry muffins for all I care--it doesn't change the fact that Vader could block a blaster with his bare hands. That fact exists, so you're wrong.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzzSome poisons are more powerful than others. Obviously.
No, I'm not admitting that at all. You cannot measure the power of a blaster bolt in the same way as you could measure the power of Force lightning. When you fire a blaster, the bolt has a specific amount of energy. But the energy of a lightning attack is a function of the user's own Force power. And a user can vary the strength of the attack in ways that a blaster's strength can't.Exactly how does poison have "power" at all? A bullet can have velocity, but how do you measure the "power" of poison? Velocity is not an property that poison even takes on. You're trying to compare things that physically cannot be compared.
A blaster is more powerful than force Lightning ie. Look what it does when it hits. It kills. Fl under a long duration can kill but it lacks the power of a blaster. It's common sense.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzz
The only thing you've proven is that the ability Vader used wasn't called tutaminis. But that doesn't ****ing matter. You can call it tutamins, or Force deflection, or cranberry muffins for all I care--it doesn't change the fact that Vader could block a blaster with his bare hands. That fact exists, so you're wrong.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Some poisons are more powerful than others. Obviously.A blaster is more powerful than force Lightning ie. Look what it does when it hits. It kills. Fl under a long duration can kill but it lacks the power of a blaster. It's common sense.
That works to compare one poison to another poison. That doesn't work to compare a poison to a bullet fired from a gun, which is what you're doing. It's the exact same thing with blaster vs. lightning. They way they kill is too dissimilar to compare them like that.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzzThey both have clear power when they hit their victims. One kills and one kills eventually if you get zapped long enough. Fl is weak. Over ten seconds from the baddest Sith out there with no scarring or long term effects is awful.
That works to compare one poison to another poison. That doesn't work to compare a poison to a bullet fired from a gun, which is what you're doing. It's the exact same thing with blaster vs. lightning. They way they kill is too dissimilar to compare them like that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede the point that it wasn't that ability uses in the film thus no examples of it being used against blasters.Nah, I go by canon. You don't have to but I do. Disney also does. Don't hate on Star Wars continuity.
It was used in the films as seen by Vader.
Well then if that's the case get out this forum. Everyone you meet here is going to be using legends continuity as well as canon. Don't hate on Star Wars. Legends is Star Wars. Legends is what makes Star Wars better than it is. It wouldn't be the same if it were just the six movies and the novelization a and the animated shows. Legends introduces more characters, and gives better light into the characters we already know, and gives them a story.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2You already conceded the abilit hadn't been created thus this isn't an example.
It was used in the films as seen by Vader.Well then if that's the case get out this forum. Everyone you meet here is going to be using legends continuity as well as canon. Don't hate on Star Wars. Legends is Star Wars. Legends is what makes Star Wars better than it is. It wouldn't be the same if it were just the six movies and the novelization a and the animated shows. Legends introduces more characters, and gives better light into the characters we already know, and gives them a story.
I go by continuity not noncanon sources. I'm glad it isn't canon.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
A blaster is more powerful than force Lightning ie. Look what it does when it hits. It kills. Fl under a long duration can kill but it lacks the power of a blaster. It's common sense. [/B]
I'm afraid. This isn't common sense, but just your lack of knowledge regarding the topic you're arguing.
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People have been instantly reduced to ash by applications of Force Lightning.
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The strength of the ability can be varied. The two Dark Side protagonists of the SW:ToR game are commonly using the ability to punish / torture people within the game in the same fashion, while at least one of them commonly uses it to kill people.
So taking a single instance of use of the ability and attempt to argue the general power of Force Lightning from there is obviously nonsense.
But then, it is you I'm talking to, so I'm not expecting that actual facts do change your view on the matter. 🙄
Originally posted by quanchi112
They both have clear power when they hit their victims. One kills and one kills eventually if you get zapped long enough. Fl is weak. Over ten seconds from the baddest Sith out there with no scarring or long term effects is awful.
One kills by delivering a shock to the central nervous system. The other kills by burning a hole through the body and causing internal trauma--and even then it only kills if it hits something important. One is delivered to the entire body. The other is concentrated to a single point. They are not designed to kill in the same way, and so to say that one is better than the other in the way you're describing is just asinine.
Originally posted by Nai
I'm afraid. This isn't common sense, but just your lack of knowledge regarding the topic you're arguing.1)
People have been instantly reduced to ash by applications of Force Lightning.2)
The strength of the ability can be varied. The two Dark Side protagonists of the SW:ToR game are commonly using the ability to punish / torture people within the game in the same fashion, while at least one of them commonly uses it to kill people.So taking a single instance of use of the ability and attempt to argue the general power of Force Lightning from there is obviously nonsense.
But then, it is you I'm talking to, so I'm not expecting that actual facts do change your view on the matter. 🙄
Bravo. This is it. 💃
Originally posted by quanchi112
You already conceded the abilit hadn't been created thus this isn't an example.I go by continuity not noncanon sources. I'm glad it isn't canon.
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Actually I don't. I said it probably hadn't had that specific name, but the power was there. It's like having a sport. Basketball and even baseball have existed ipfor thousands of years, but it was probably never called baseball or basketball, but it was the sport.
Well that's all good for you, but you still mystery abide by the rules here. Rules say legends is applicable. I shall continue to use legends. If you don't like it, then leave. Very simple choice.
Originally posted by Nai1) nothing in continuity alludes to anyone being reduced to ash. To the contrary Palpatine burned Luke set to kill for well over ten seconds and he walked away like a headache went away without any visible scarring or debilitating effects.
I'm afraid. This isn't common sense, but just your lack of knowledge regarding the topic you're arguing.1)
People have been instantly reduced to ash by applications of Force Lightning.2)
The strength of the ability can be varied. The two Dark Side protagonists of the SW:ToR game are commonly using the ability to punish / torture people within the game in the same fashion, while at least one of them commonly uses it to kill people.So taking a single instance of use of the ability and attempt to argue the general power of Force Lightning from there is obviously nonsense.
But then, it is you I'm talking to, so I'm not expecting that actual facts do change your view on the matter. 🙄
2) nothing in continuity.
Those aren't facts. Disney 86'd all that ridiculous wank. It is no longer recognized so get with the times. But then, it is you I'm talking to, so I'm not expecting actual canon to matter to you.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Except the ability wasn't thought up hence he just deflected it. We see tutaminis clearly work differently in the films than in esb.
Actually I don't. I said it probably hadn't had that specific name, but the power was there. It's like having a sport. Basketball and even baseball have existed ipfor thousands of years, but it was probably never called baseball or basketball, but it was the sport.Well that's all good for you, but you still mystery abide by the rules here. Rules say legends is applicable. I shall continue to use legends. If you don't like it, then leave. Very simple choice.
And they also say one can go by canon which I do. What I go by counts and what you go by doesn't. Facts. 😄
Originally posted by quanchi112
Except the ability wasn't thought up hence he just deflected it. We see tutaminis clearly work differently in the films than in esb.And they also say one can go by canon which I do. What I go by counts and what you go by doesn't. Facts. 😄
Deflecting is the ability. Look up and do your research on tutamintis. That was with lightning. Tutamintis works with lightsabers lightning and blasters.
We all go by canon. We all also go by legends which here does count. If you can't accept that we have a problem. 😂