Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No it just proves you troll both sides and you really have contempt for anyone and everyone.
i am indiscriminate with my contempt, i'll give you that. don't know why that computed as "playing both sides" in your brain. what if i just call BS, regardless of whether or not the culprit happens to be my special internet bro-friend?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i am indiscriminate with my contempt, i'll give you that. don't know why that computed as "playing both sides" in your brain. what if i just call BS, regardless of whether or not the culprit happens to be my special internet bro-friend?
I thought you were my bro friend in this hughbox.
I agree 100% with Surtur. Even though this thread was made by TI for obvious reasons, I'm glad the important part of this topic was addressed.
I too, was ill with madness when I analysed the notion of convicts obtaining a better education than an average citizen.
It made me sick to my stomach, I must admit. And I'm not exaggerating.
Why? Well let's take a closer look:
I work around 50 hours a week in order to gain a miserable wage to pay to get into a college. I literally bust my ass all day, my fingers are worn out by the end of Monday, by the end of the week I can't even move the joystick from my Playstation controller because my fingers hurt quite a lot; and I'm not the type to complain about physical pain.
While prisoners that commit crimes are given an education for doing me harm, I'll be paying for their education with my tax dollar. How is that fair? We not only get hurt by them, but we also have to give them money for it.
The typical argument I see is prisoners should be given a second chance at life. Why should they have a higher priority than people that are hard workers and that follow the rules? What type of value is this? Honest-working-lawful citizens should be held to a greater priority than a petty or hard criminal.
If you want to play the circumstance game, then we can all play. You can say that Tommy was in a rough neighborhood when he was a kid, therefore his actions are justified and he should receive more government help due to unfortunate circumstances.
But what about Jill? She is a hardworking- lawful citizen that due to unfortunate circumstances decided to do things which hindered her grades at school so she didn't get scholarships.
Or Mickey? He, under unfortunate circumstances, was raised in a humble, but poor family. Poor Mickey had no money for college so he worked all his life in a miserable job that he detested.
All of these people had unfortunate circumstances, which some, effected their decisions; others were just unfortunate. Given the premise that people that commit bad choices should get a free (high level) education,. In such a case everyone should get should get a free education of the same level.
My problem with this isn't based on statues, it's based on priority based on statues. Should inmates receive basic human needs to make them better people? Of course. Should they receive a better lifestyle and education than good citizens? Of course not.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I think some of you need to think about this subject in a more critical manner and should try to look at this from a different lens. I will also like to apologize for a very bad articulated rant.
its interesting to see how the system works. Instead of blaming the injustice that you are required to work so hard to get something as basic as education, your anger is redirected at these convicts instead.
Rather than " hey, this is unfair, we all should get a good thing" your reaction is "hey, this is unfair, they should have a bad thing as well!"
Originally posted by Bardock42👆
its interesting to see how the system works. Instead of blaming the injustice that you are required to work so hard to get something as basic as education, your anger is redirected at these convicts instead.Rather than " hey, this is unfair, we all should get a good thing" your reaction is "hey, this is unfair, they should have a bad thing as well!"
Would be nice if I could get a piece of that pie.
Originally posted by Bardock42
its interesting to see how the system works. Instead of blaming the injustice that you are required to work so hard to get something as basic as education, your anger is redirected at these convicts instead.Rather than " hey, this is unfair, we all should get a good thing" your reaction is "hey, this is unfair, they should have a bad thing as well!"
I do see your point, everyone should have a good education (I even made this point), but what are the odds of that happening? Are they higher than switching the positions that are currently in play? I highly doubt it.
This is why I asked people to use a different lens. You live in Germany, correct? To my understanding you had a free education. In the USA people are taught at school how to deal better with the unavoidable debt most of us will acquire (they even recommend good ramen), socially this is something that is a norm( they didn't mention doing time, though). It's not even that obscure of a thing, it's like saying politicians are corrupt; it's nothing new or surprising. Military members go recruiting into classes promising an education as long as you sign the dotted line, yes that is a norm.
How is there going to be an improvement of this country with people like TI concentrating more in making petty smears instead of addressing the real problems. This is the crap we have to live with on the regular.
Do you understand my pain now?
P.S. I'll probably be better off moving to Germany or other country in the Scandinavia.
Re: Havard Loses debate to Inmates on Illegal Immigration
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Convicted Inmates beat Harvards debate team."In the match, inmates defended the premise that students whose parents entered the US illegally should be turned away from schools."
Whats even funnier is the inmates where black and hispanic and they destroyed a liberal college debate team on illegal immigration stances who were white, defending illegal immigrants.
Go figure.
Roll Tide.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34470767
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/living/harvard-debate-team-loses-to-prison-inmates-feat/
I also want to address this real fast. I didn't see nor hear the debate but it seems like the inmates, even though they argued for the motion, ultimately made the point that kids should get turned away so they get a better education.
" One of the judges, Mary Nugent, told the Wall Street Journal that the Bard team effectively made the case that the schools which serve undocumented children often underperformed. The debaters proposed that if these so-called dropout factories refuse to enroll the children, then nonprofits and wealthier schools might intercede, offering the students better educations. She told the paper that Harvard’s debaters did not respond to all aspects of the argument."
As noble as this might be, it still doesn't change my mind.
I'm surprised no-one called you out for this.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Called me out for what? I think the story is interesting. And so do other people.Call away boy!
I'd just wish you'd grow a pair and admit your true motives. At least Donald Trump can do that much, being less than Trump should be an embarrassment.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ive never even talked to you before. Im sorry you have a problem with the article, reported for personal attacks though.
Typical sissy liberal move, reporting me for hurting your feelings.