Doomsday was written to be the ultimate killing machine.
A being even gods feared.
Every single member of the quintessence, odin, and all the lords of order and chaos fear Darkseid.
And Darkseid feared Doomsday.
No one was really able to stop him until Imperiex vaporized him years later.
At that time, he was still seemingly unstoppable until that moment and was running neck and neck with Supes cutting loose.
A Superman who just had several arcs against skyfather and abstract style enemies over the previous few years[and the next several as well].
A Superman who even after the event was confident he could handle the Quintessence if they attacked him.
If Zues actually engages Doomsday and doesn't BFR him, he goes down hard and fast.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...rhat Hulk stomped 2 beings that was a thousand times more powerful than Savage Hulk. This doesn't include his other fts that were outright insane like taking out Loeb Rulk with a thunder clap.
Superman wrecked Darkseid who is well beyond that... Nah seriously... No.
Rulk got chumped by Wonder Man.
Or darkseid was simply not as powerful as people are putting on. Besides Zeus has other powers than punching and kicking his opponents to death. We all saw that HP DD wasn't immune to high enough doses of energy attacks, and I'm certain that a Sky Father of Zeus' level has enough power to replicate the feat.
Originally posted by Stoic
Or darkseid was simply not as powerful as people are putting on. Besides Zeus has other powers than punching and kicking his opponents to death. We all saw that HP DD wasn't immune to high enough doses of energy attacks, and I'm certain that a Sky Father of Zeus' level has enough power to replicate the feat.
Actually, is exactly as powerful as the comics show him to be, being a guy who at weakened levels mud stomped the Legion of Super-Heroes, Mordru, Controller-Time Trapper, etc.
Zeus could knock DD around, sure.
Originally posted by panthergod
Actually, is exactly as powerful as the comics show him to be, being a guy who at weakened levels mud stomped the Legion of Super-Heroes, Mordru, Controller-Time Trapper, etc.Zeus could knock DD around, sure.
It seems to me like DC's version of Zeus, and Odin aren't on the same level of power as their Marvel counterparts. Actually even DC Zeus' DC counterpart appears to be more powerful. look at what the alternate Zeus recently did to Superman for example. The thing here is that Zeus has other abilities other than brawling it out with a near one dimensional character. DD isn't magic, and he isn't impervious to enough power being poured out on him. We saw this first hand during OWAW when he was easily reduced to a skeleton. This is really a spite thread in favor of Zeus. No amount of dragging him down to DD's level should really be paid any mind.
Originally posted by Stoic
It seems to me like DC's version of Zeus, and Odin aren't on the same level of power as their Marvel counterparts. Actually even DC Zeus' DC counterpart appears to be more powerful. look at what the alternate Zeus recently did to Superman for example. The thing here is that Zeus has other abilities other than brawling it out with a near one dimensional character. DD isn't magic, and he isn't impervious to enough power being poured out on him. We saw this first hand during OWAW when he was easily reduced to a skeleton. This is really a spite thread in favor of Zeus. No amount of dragging him down to DD's level should really be paid any mind.
Only Imperiex destroyed H/P level Doomsday via raw power and Zeus is an ant to Imperiex, so... No.
Zeus has rarely done more than blast and punch, like he did against Thor. Who he failed to take out, and Hulk, whose durability he disrupted. Doomsday has no such limitations.
Zeus has done nothing superior to Darkseid in his existence, to my knowledge.
Originally posted by panthergod
Only Imperiex destroyed H/P level Doomsday via raw power and Zeus is an ant to Imperiex, so... No.Zeus has rarely done more than blast and punch, like he did against Thor. Who he failed to take out, and Hulk, whose durability he disrupted. Doomsday has no such limitations.
Zeus has done nothing superior to Darkseid in his existence, to my knowledge.
Let me correct you on the Rulk thing. Rulk wasn't yet nerfed when the Hulk stopped him with a T-clap. Simon would have never beaten Rulk of that era. He was officially nerfed when he fought that robot called Omegex.
Zeus was actually toying with Thor, and was not out to win. This is supported by context.
Zeus did not go all out on the Hulk in their meeting, which is also supported by the context of the story.
Zeus was place in a hierarchy among some of Marvel's most powerful entities. I would find it very comical to see a being nearly limited to slugging it out above him on that scale.
If that was the true Darkseid that DD beat up, who was the guy fighting the Anti-Monitor recently? Was that the same Darkseid, or what? I know that DD was a powerful brute force type character, but again this fight never has to go that way. Zeus has more abilities at his disposal than throwing fists.
Originally posted by Stoic
Let me correct you on the Rulk thing. Rulk wasn't yet nerfed when the Hulk stopped him with a T-clap. Simon would have never beaten Rulk of that era. He was officially nerfed when he fought that robot called Omegex.Zeus was actually toying with Thor, and was not out to win. This is supported by context.
Zeus did not go all out on the Hulk in their meeting, which is also supported by the context of the story.
Zeus was place in a hierarchy among some of Marvel's most powerful entities. I would find it very comical to see a being nearly limited to slugging it out above him on that scale.
If that was the true Darkseid that DD beat up, who was the guy fighting the Anti-Monitor recently? Was that the same Darkseid, or what? I know that DD was a powerful brute force type character, but again this fight never has to go that way. Zeus has more abilities at his disposal than throwing fists.
Isnt that no limit fallacy? He hasnt displayed anything esoteric so why would we give him those abilities
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Isnt that no limit fallacy? He hasnt displayed anything esoteric so why would we give him those abilities
Why would Zeus be placed in that hierarchy with the most powerful beings in the Marvel U, if he was weak? Does it make any sort of sense to you? Hey why not say that HP DD beats the mess out of Franklin Richards? I mean what lifting feats does he actually have? There are plenty of powerful characters that have very little in the way of feats, but that doesn't give character X with the glowing fists the win over them. Zeus displayed plenty of power by catching mjolnir and holding alone. Doesn't that mean that he actually got around the enchantment?
Originally posted by Stoic
Why would Zeus be placed in that hierarchy with the most powerful beings in the Marvel U, if he was weak? Does it make any sort of sense to you? Hey why not say that HP DD beats the mess out of Franklin Richards? I mean what lifting feats does he actually have? There are plenty of powerful characters that have very little in the way of feats, but that doesn't give character X with the glowing fists the win over them. Zeus displayed plenty of power by catching mjolnir and holding alone. Doesn't that mean that he actually got around the enchantment?
No because he only held it momentarily before returning to Thor. If he was truly above it he wouldve palmed it. The difference between Franklin and Zeus is the former actually displayed those abilities. Zeus just so happens to rep a pantheon. Hell iirc Athena made a trip to such a council of omnipotents when Zeus was gone. Im not for or against him having that power i just havent seen him display it