Zeus (Marvel) vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No because he only held it momentarily before returning to Thor. If he was truly above it he wouldve palmed it. The difference between Franklin and Zeus is the former actually displayed those abilities. Zeus just so happens to rep a pantheon. Hell iirc Athena made a trip to such a council of omnipotents when Zeus was gone. Im not for or against him having that power i just havent seen him display it

I know what you mean, but in his bio, he has a list of power a mile long. I understand the feats game, but his powers can not simply be ignored. It's almost like saying that the Punisher would beat up Zuras because he has a low appearance rate. We saw how Zeus' punches magically stymied the Hulk's HF, and that his lightning is more than just mere elemental force. if you can't argue for a character due to lack of appearances, I guess the alternative is just to give the win to the ones that do, and ignore implied power altogether.

Zeus wins.

Yes, Doomy is strong....but Zeus is mystical. Something Doomsday has never encountered before.

So Zeus doesn't have to be at levels >> the OE.

As most all comic battles, Zues and Odin typically get down by fighting with blasts and cqc. lol.

Even if there were a multitude of other options you might come up with, the odds of most of them working on Doomsday are slim

He overcame Wonder Woman's lasso's magical enchantments.
He withstood the Omega and easily beat down Darksied, who's skyfather at worst and abstract at his height. .
Backlashed the new Radiants power back against him.
He backlashed Waverider's Chronal power back against him..
He evolved the ability to adapt to everything thrown his way on the fly.
When one of The Guardians of the Universe tried he fight him, he claimed DD adapted and began feeding off of his energy. The Guardians were so powerful that each is like a living Power Battery.
(You know how much raw power that is right?)
He had to kill himself to get Doomsday off planet.

Darkseid claimed the creature couldn't be stopped.

The being who finally overpowered him was Imperiex.
Entropy itself.
The end of the universe.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zeus wins.

Yes, Doomy is strong....but Zeus is mystical. Something Doomsday has never encountered before.

So Zeus doesn't have to be at levels >> the OE.

Zeus atomizes doomsday

Originally posted by Stoic
I know what you mean, but in his bio, he has a list of power a mile long. I understand the feats game, but his powers can not simply be ignored. It's almost like saying that the Punisher would beat up Zuras because he has a low appearance rate. We saw how Zeus' punches magically stymied the Hulk's HF, and that his lightning is more than just mere elemental force. if you can't argue for a character due to lack of appearances, I guess the alternative is just to give the win to the ones that do, and ignore implied power altogether.

Yes but whos to say how truly powerful he is? We can only assume as weve seen nothing to suggest otherwise. Plus bios are notoriously bad at depicting actual shit. If its not supported on panel y would i use it?

Originally posted by Juntai
As most all comic battles, Zues and Odin typically get down by fighting with blasts and cqc. lol.

Even if there were a multitude of other options you might come up with, the odds of most of them working on Doomsday are slim

He overcame Wonder Woman's lasso's magical enchantments.
He withstood the Omega and easily beat down Darksied, who's skyfather at worst and abstract at his height. .
Backlashed the new Radiants power back against him.
He backlashed Waverider's Chronal power back against him..
He evolved the ability to adapt to everything thrown his way on the fly.
When one of The Guardians of the Universe tried he fight him, he claimed DD adapted and began feeding off of his energy. The Guardians were so powerful that each is like a living Power Battery.
(You know how much raw power that is right?)
He had to kill himself to get Doomsday off planet.

Darkseid claimed the creature couldn't be stopped.

The being who finally overpowered him was Imperiex.
Entropy itself.
The end of the universe.

He did all of those cool things and then got torn up by Cyborg Superman. And is there a reason behind you spelling Zeus Zues?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes but whos to say how truly powerful he is? We can only assume as weve seen nothing to suggest otherwise. Plus bios are notoriously bad at depicting actual shit. If its not supported on panel y would i use it?

Well in that case Thor stomps Cyttorak. You see where I'm going? I'm not being sarcastic, just that in order for certain things to make sense, you have to imagine that a guy included among the Marvel U's most powerful should actually be more powerful than the brick with the bony protrusions. While on the other hand, getting behind the feat-less may be a poor stance to take.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No this

And

Some of his loses were also retconned it was desaad posing as him as well

However, we do not know if darkseid used an avatar or not with doomsday. It would make sense, but no confirmation

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman wrecked Darkseid who is well beyond that... Nah seriously... No.

Rulk got chumped by Wonder Man.

Two different Rulks bro. That's like me bringing up Doomsday getting chopped up by an ax as proof of HP Doomsday durability.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Can you shut the **** up about hulk already?

He's relevant to this thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana's lasso.

When? IIRC it only occurred when Brainiac took control? So him 'overpowering' magic isn't quite the same - she commanded Doomsday to drop, but as Brainiac was in control he didn't.

A far cry from tanking magical blasts etc from Zeus, which are a COMPLETELY different attack.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When? IIRC it only occurred when Brainiac took control? So him 'overpowering' magic isn't quite the same - she commanded Doomsday to drop, but as Brainiac was in control he didn't.

A far cry from tanking magical blasts etc from Zeus, which are a COMPLETELY different attack.

Darkseid oneshotted Cyborg Superman with omega beams. His weakened Omegas burned Superman up while not even being the target. DD shrugged it off like nothing.

Zeus has nothing at that level. Both Thor and Herc have tanked his energy attacks.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's what Doomsday's ridiculous durability is.

Darkseid oneshotted Cyborg Superman with omega beams. His weakened Omegas burned Superman up while not even being the target. DD shrugged it off like nothing.

Zeus has nothing at that level. Both Thor and Herc have tanked his energy attacks.

MAGICAL energy attacks.

Bringing up Thor, the Norse god of lightning, and his son, Herc, isn't exactly applicable.

This was always a basic trait of Doomsday. The Radiant killed him, then was torn apart. Superman beat him to death physically, then H/P was laughing at a charged up Supes.

Ultrasonics affected him, then they didn't, etc etc.

Tom just stated on tumble that Odin and Zeus are equal in power.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
MAGICAL energy attacks.

Bringing up Thor, the Norse god of lightning, and his son, Herc, isn't exactly applicable.

This was always a basic trait of Doomsday. The Radiant killed him, then was torn apart. Superman beat him to death physically, then H/P was laughing at a charged up Supes.

Ultrasonics affected him, then they didn't, etc etc.

You're taking two different versions of Doomsday here.

Point me to Zeus oneshot obliterating the body of someone like Henshaw. Then he might harm Doomsday.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you think Thor can take energy attacks better than Doomsday? Magical doesn't means Doomsday is weak to them like Superman.

You're taking two different versions of Doomsday here.

Point me to Zeus oneshot obliterating the body of someone like Henshaw. Then he might harm Doomsday.

I reckon Thor can take magical lightning attacks better than Doomsday.

EVERY version of Doomsday, when faced with a new attack, is affected by it. then he evolves and adapts to it (assuming he does not get killed, lol). The question then becomes, is the attack great enough to KO him (as with the Radiant) or obliterate him (as with Imperiex).

He has faced a lot of attacks, but has never faced magic, certainly not on the scale of Zeus.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I reckon Thor can take magical lightning attacks better than Doomsday.

EVERY version of Doomsday, when faced with a new attack, is affected by it. then he evolves and adapts to it (assuming he does not get killed, lol). The question then becomes, is the attack great enough to KO him (as with the Radiant) or obliterate him (as with Imperiex).

He has faced a lot of attacks, but has never faced magic, certainly not on the scale of Zeus.

You just lost any credibility you have with me at this point. Should I create the thread about Thor/Doomsday durability or would you do it?

You're just making up shit at this point.

DOS DD laughed at HV, Martian vision, sinestro ring, Fire and booster's combined energy attacks.

He tanked Guardians attacks. He tanked Astro force without getting harmed. He laughed at Imperiex probes.

If Carver had said something like this? Sure. Why are you trying to make it like Doomsday is Darwin?

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

You just lost any credibility you have with me at this point. Should I create the thread about Thor/Doomsday durability or would you do it?

You're just making up shit at this point.

DOS DD laughed at HV, Martian vision, sinestro ring, Fire and booster's combined energy attacks.

He tanked Guardians attacks. He tanked Astro force without getting harmed. He laughed at Imperiex probes.

If Carver had said something like this? Sure. Why are you trying to make it like Doomsday is Darwin?

I had credibility? 😆

As I said, before you conveniently left pertinent points out - THor > Doomsday at magical lightning resistance. Sure, open that thread up. PLEASE, PLEASE, post as many Doomsday magical lightning feats as you can. Let's see who has more.

So all those lovely energy attacks are < an ultrasonic attack? One that, I might add, Superman wasn't even being affected by (I'm sure you have scans of his amazing hearing feats:

He laughed at those attacks - but the first time sonics were tried, he wasn't laughing. Yet, he was laughing at Imperiex probes, combined HV/Martian V/Sinestro ring etc etc etc.

Are you then saying those sonics > Imperiex probes? But Supes is standing right there! Weren't you the one posting in the thread where his senses were >>> Daredevil's?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I had credibility? 😆

As I said, before you conveniently left pertinent points out - THor > Doomsday at magical lightning resistance. Sure, open that thread up. PLEASE, PLEASE, post as many Doomsday magical lightning feats as you can. Let's see who has more.

Well, Thor got oneshotted by his own lightning. I'm sure Doomsday can so better than that.

But yeah, you're just grasping at straws there.

So all those lovely energy attacks are < an ultrasonic attack? One that, I might add, Superman wasn't even being affected by (I'm sure you have scans of his amazing hearing feats:

He laughed at those attacks - but the first time sonics were tried, he wasn't laughing.

Because sonics directly affect brain. Unlike the energy attacks. And he didn't evolve against Sonic attack. He just blocked it.

Yet, he was laughing at Imperiex probes, combined HV/Martian V/Sinestro ring etc etc etc.

Are you then saying those sonics > Imperiex probes? But Supes is standing right there! Weren't you the one posting in the thread where his senses were >>> Daredevil's?

So, all this for just a bit of circular logic?

Zeus should better bring a whistle here if he wants to take Doomsday down.

But I'd like to see where he evolved against HV or Martian vision? Because apparently Doomsday has no durability at all. It's all just evolution!!!!!!!!!