Originally posted by carver9Firelord bats it back.
Show us a Herald stopping Mjlonir forward momentum. Scans please.Zeus held it in his hand before Thor called it back to himself. Powerful ft bro.
http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/h1a8/Mobile%20Uploads/2334089-thor_246_15.jpg
Did Zeus use strength or did he use magic to override the enchantment?
Originally posted by h1a8
we go by feats. If a character only has showings far below what people claim then the claim is simply untrue. I can see if Zeus didn't have any showings. But he does. And they don't match up to what you are saying.
If you went by feats, you would realize that Zeus is not limited to punching and kicking.
Originally posted by h1a8
Firelord bats it back.http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/h1a8/Mobile%20Uploads/2334089-thor_246_15.jpg
Did Zeus use strength or did he use magic to override the enchantment?
He didn't stop the forward momentum.
What did you think Zeus used for the showing?
Originally posted by carver9what? Mjolnir was centered on Firelord, going straight for him. Firelord hit it backwards. Mjolnir was no longer going forward.
He didn't stop the forward momentum.What did you think Zeus used for the showing?
Idk what Zeus used. Honest to God. I was thinking he was Worthy years ago when I read it. That's why I asked. You the one presenting the feat. So you tell me.
Originally posted by h1a8
what? Mjolnir was centered on Firelord, going straight for him. Firelord hit it backwards. Mjolnir was no longer going forward.Idk what Zeus used. Honest to God. I was thinking he was Worthy years ago when I read it. That's why I asked. You the one presenting the feat. So you tell me.
He changed the direction of the hammer. That isn't stopping it...that's slapping it away. Doesn't have a thing to do with the enchantment. Now when you can grab the hammer, stop it and then hold it, that's when you need to think about the power displayed there.
Zeus wasn't worthy because if he was, the hammer would've stayed in his hand when Thor tried to summon it.
Originally posted by carver9
He changed the direction of the hammer. That isn't stopping it...that's slapping it away. Doesn't have a thing to do with the enchantment. Now when you can grab the hammer, stop it and then hold it, that's when you need to think about the power displayed there.Zeus wasn't worthy because if he was, the hammer would've stayed in his hand when Thor tried to summon it.
Math explanation
Stopping the forward momentum requires you to first get its forward velocity to be 0.
Common sense explanation
The hammer was no longer going forward. Thus it's forward momentum was eliminated (which means stopped ). You are incorrectly equating "stopping the forward momentum" as putting the hammer at rest. Stopping the forward momentum simply means stop it from going forward.
You still didn't explain how Zeus held the hammer. Did he use magic or strength?
Originally posted by h1a8
Math explanation
Stopping the forward momentum requires you to first get its forward velocity to be 0.Common sense explanation
The hammer was no longer going forward. Thus it's forward momentum was eliminated (which means stopped ). You are incorrectly equating "stopping the forward momentum" as putting the hammer at rest. Stopping the forward momentum simply means stop it from going forward.You still didn't explain how Zeus held the hammer. Did he use magic or strength?
Lol...the enchantment has nothing to do with changing the direction of a hammer toss. Please read the hammer again.
Whosoever HOLDS (ya know, hold the hammer. Grip it with your hands) will possess the power of Thor. Now I ask, is that what Firelord did?
Originally posted by carver9im confused.
Lol...the enchantment has nothing to do with changing the direction of a hammer toss. Please read the hammer again.Whosoever HOLDS (ya know, hold the hammer. Grip it with your hands) will possess the power of Thor. Now I ask, is that what Firelord did?
Anyway we are arguing semantics. Your definition of stopping forward momentum is completely halting. My definition is more broad. It's STOPPING the hammer from going forward.
And answer the question about Zeus
Originally posted by h1a8That just means Firelord or character X was defending themselves with more power than Thor put into that particular hammer throw/smash. Nothing else. Has nothing to do with the enchantment
Firelord bats it back.http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/h1a8/Mobile%20Uploads/2334089-thor_246_15.jpg
Did Zeus use strength or did he use magic to override the enchantment?
Thor swinging the hammer is a different story
Originally posted by h1a8
im confused.
what does not having the power of Thor have anything to do with stopping the hammer from going forward? Any Herald with sufficient power can stop it from going forward. The hammer is not unstoppable by physical force. You just can't lift it. The enchantment doesn't say anything about not being able to stop it from going forward.Anyway we are arguing semantics. Your definition of stopping forward momentum is completely halting. My definition is more broad. It's STOPPING the hammer from going forward.
And answer the question about Zeus
The enchantment isn't based on Thor THROWING Mjlonir, it's based on who can HOLD the hammer. Stop trolling H1. Did Firelord HOLD the hammer when Thor tossed it? Stop adding to the enchantment. WHOSOEVER HOLD MJLONIR WILL BE WORTHY. This isn't hard to comprehend. For someone who tend to think of themselves as someone with a decent intellect, you are not using it right now.
Originally posted by psycho gundamYou need to quote carver as we are in agreement. That's my argument that I'm trying to teach carver. I didn't want to be clear as I wanted carver to figure it out. He thinks that Mjolnir can't be stopped or hit back with physical force. He thinks the enchantment prevents that.
That just means Firelord or character X was defending themselves with more power than Thor put into that particular hammer throw/smash. Nothing else. Has nothing to do with the enchantmentThor swinging the hammer is a different story
Originally posted by h1a8
You need to quote carver as we are in agreement. That's my argument that I'm trying to teach carver. I didn't want to be clear as I wanted carver to figure it out. He thinks that Mjolnir can't be stopped or hit back with physical force. He thinks the enchantment prevents that.
When did I say this?
Originally posted by carver9do you do drugs? Why can't you remember what we were arguing about? I claimed that Heralds stopped it's forward momentum before. This implied that stopping Mjolnir in the air doesn't prove that you wont get killed by DD. You asked for scans. I did. So what's the problem? Zeus stopped the hammer. This is a herald level feat.
The enchantment isn't based on Thor THROWING Mjlonir, it's based on who can HOLD the hammer. Stop trolling H1. Did Firelord HOLD the hammer when Thor tossed it? Stop adding to the enchantment. WHOSOEVER HOLD MJLONIR WILL BE WORTHY. This isn't hard to comprehend. For someone who tend to think of themselves as someone with a decent intellect, you are not using it right now.
He held the hammer. But you refuse to say why? Did he use magic or physical strength?
Originally posted by carver9in all of your posts. You are using the Zeus feat of him stopping Mjolnir forward motion as it's a great feat, implying that he overcame some enchantment. Then you say that he held Mjolnir without being worthy but refused to explain whether it was do to strength or magic overriding the enchantment somewhat.
When did I say this?
