Originally posted by h1a8
Also stop ignoring my post. That's trolling. I asked if Zeus wasn't worthy then how was he able to hold it? Did he use magic or strength?
Neither.
We don't know how long Zeus held it for.
The direction of the hammer was changing from a forward motion, to a backwards motion. For a split second, it was motionless (which is when Zeus then laid hands on it).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Then it's a non feat since we don't know how long it was in his hand motionless.
Neither.We don't know how long Zeus held it for.
The direction of the hammer was changing from a forward motion, to a backwards motion. For a split second, it was motionless (which is when Zeus then laid hands on it).
Originally posted by carver9What if he spoke those sentences in the act of catching it (halting it's motion)?
It was held long enough for Zeus to complete two sentence with Thor being surprised that Zeus was holding it.
Even if Zeus held it then under what circumstances was he able to? Was it due to using magic? Was it because of physical strength? Which one?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, I don't believe Zeus overcame the enchantment of worthiness.Thor clearly noted that Zeus was momentarily able to keep Mjolnir from him. I don't believe that meant him overpowering the enchantment. It'd have been a much bigger deal and more noteworthy in that fight due to the very nature of the worthy enchantment being so legendary imho.
I said the exact opposite of that.
Originally posted by h1a8
What if he spoke those sentences in the act of catching it (halting it's motion)?Even if Zeus held it then under what circumstances was he able to? Was it due to using magic? Was it because of physical strength? Which one?
It really wouldn't matter because however he caught it was within his ability to do so. Would you question Superman's abilities if he managed to catch a DC10 that fell 1,000 feet before interception?
Originally posted by StoicThe reason why Zeus held it is relevant to the feat being used in this fight. If Zeus used strength to do it then he can apply that strength to damage DD. If he used magical power to do it then the feat doesn't help him in this fight at all.
It really wouldn't matter because however he caught it was within his ability to do so. Would you question Superman's abilities if he managed to catch a DC10 that fell 1,000 feet before interception?
Note: any high Herald and above can stop or bat Mjolnir back. It has been done.
Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't mean that magic in general won't help but rather the magic over overcoming an enchantment won't help Zeus in this fight since DD isn't magical and doesn't have any enchantments.
But the 'wellspring' of power, as it were, would be helpful.
Think of it as a GL's battery. He can use it for a variety of effects - but the charge is there for him to tap into.
If Zeus has a sufficient wellspring that enables him to override Odin's enchantment - even momentarily - imagine if he focussed that into a magical blast. Or whatever.
Originally posted by h1a8
The reason why Zeus held it is relevant to the feat being used in this fight. If Zeus used strength to do it then he can apply that strength to damage DD. If he used magical power to do it then the feat doesn't help him in this fight at all.Note: any high Herald and above can stop or bat Mjolnir back. It has been done.
What do you mean it doesn't help him in this fight at all? Who told you that this was a purely H2H battle? Clear out the cobwebs man. Have you been thinking that this fight was going to be Zeus limited to kicking and punching? This is Zeus not Hercules.
Originally posted by Stoic
What do you mean it doesn't help him in this fight at all? Who told you that this was a purely H2H battle? Clear out the cobwebs man. Have you been thinking that this fight was going to be Zeus limited to kicking and punching? This is Zeus not Hercules.
Zeus as a sky father has more options at his disposal, like his counterpart Odin did when he ripped a universe/ realm out of the world tree, not saying that feat applies to Zeus but what does that sky fathers can get mid evil and have no mercy when they tap into tap into their full power.
Originally posted by h1a8
The reason why Zeus held it is relevant to the feat being used in this fight. If Zeus used strength to do it then he can apply that strength to damage DD. If he used magical power to do it then the feat doesn't help him in this fight at all.Note: any high Herald and above can stop or bat Mjolnir back. It has been done.
Show us a Herald holding on to Mjlonir.
Originally posted by the Darkonewe go by feats. If a character only has showings far below what people claim then the claim is simply untrue. I can see if Zeus didn't have any showings. But he does. And they don't match up to what you are saying.
Zeus as a sky father has more options at his disposal, like his counterpart Odin did when he ripped a universe/ realm out of the world tree, not saying that feat applies to Zeus but what does that sky fathers can get mid evil and have no mercy when they tap into tap into their full power.
Originally posted by h1a8
Why? How is that relevant to what I said? I said they have stopped it's forward momentum and even batted it back. I never said they held it.
Show us a Herald stopping Mjlonir forward momentum. Scans please.
Zeus held it in his hand before Thor called it back to himself. Powerful ft bro.