Zeus (Marvel) vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Is this another one of your made up stories like the color of the Hulk?

Zeus didn't turn anything off, he just simply beat the sh1t out of him to the point that he didn't any strength left.

You know like when a fighter receives the beat down of their life.

What I am trying to explain to you, is that this is the equivalent of sending someone to the hospital after you beat the sh1t out of them.

That is what Zeus did to Hulk

You've been hit by Zeus. Your strength will not return and you will only heal as fast as...

This is pretty got darn clear. Hulk had been melted all the way down to the bone and never suffered like that. The guy above CLEARLY tells us what happened.

That scan isn't saying it depowered him it basically said he beat him to near death

Originally posted by carver9
You've been hit by Zeus. Your strength will not return and you will only heal as fast as...

This is pretty got darn clear. Hulk had been melted all the way down to the bone and never suffered like that. The guy above CLEARLY tells us what happened.

It is as clear as the Hulk color 😬

Let me put it this way.

You fight vs Dorksaint, get a few rounds and you come out ok.
Lets say Dorksaint is on your same weight class, so he is somewhat on your pay grade. And the fight ends in a draw. Your body was able to take the punishment.

Then you feel cooky and decide that because you tie with Dorksaint you can fight Mike Tyson at his peak.

Mike Tyson beats the shit out of you and it taxes your body so bad that you end up on the hospital under intensive care. Because your body was not able to take the punishment and you lost all your strength.

That is basically what happened to Hulk when He fought Zeus.

Btw I will pay to see Mike Tyson bating you up.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That scan isn't saying it depowered him it basically said he beat him to near death

Zeus beats the evolution out of DD.

Originally posted by Juntai
As most all comic battles, Zues and Odin typically get down by fighting with blasts and cqc. lol.

Even if there were a multitude of other options you might come up with, the odds of most of them working on Doomsday are slim

He overcame Wonder Woman's lasso's magical enchantments.
He withstood the Omega and easily beat down Darksied, who's skyfather at worst and abstract at his height. .
Backlashed the new Radiants power back against him.
He backlashed Waverider's Chronal power back against him..
He evolved the ability to adapt to everything thrown his way on the fly.
When one of The Guardians of the Universe tried he fight him, he claimed DD adapted and began feeding off of his energy. The Guardians were so powerful that each is like a living Power Battery.
(You know how much raw power that is right?)
He had to kill himself to get Doomsday off planet.

Darkseid claimed the creature couldn't be stopped.

The being who finally overpowered him was Imperiex.
Entropy itself.
The end of the universe.

About the Waverider thing-once more:
scans are self evident, except that DD did not adapt to time powers, since Waverider has not used time powers, he simply copied and overloaded Waverider with his own energy, but not chronal energy, because the attack involved only nervous system energy-that's huge difference-and that's what DD copied and overloaded Waverider-the scans speak for themselves, not to mention, unlike Radiant, DD could not destroy Waverider-so please stop posting lies that Waverider was actually defeated in the sense that DD adapted to Waverider's chronal energies-which is not true.

Have you ever seen Waverider using time powers on DD in all those scans and all the fight? No, not even once, plus it was Waverider's own device that transported DD to the very end of time-not Superman's mother box, Mother boy only showed location where the device would transport DD.

the scans actually proved that Waverider didn't even try to use time powers on DD in the first place? He simply tried to shut down DD's nervous system.
Waverider, could after he reformed after being dispersed, use time powers to stop time around DD-and than DD would not be able to do anything, since he would not be able to move and react in the first place-these are not lies, and grievances, these are facts that everyone who are DD's fanatics simply ignore all the time.

Waverider could simply go back in time before DD's creation and prevent it from happening-something that Zeus can also do it extremely easily.

All Waverider and Zeus for that matter need to do is to stop time around H/P DD and the fight for H/P DD is over.

Originally posted by Galan007
Waverider is composed almost entirely of chronal energy. When he made contact with Doomsday a second time, this was the result:

As you can see, he simply made a blanket statement as to what was going on: "Can't control -- my ENERGIES!"

So according to Waverider himself: he momentarily lost control of his energies across the board. That said, I think it is perfectly logical to assume that Doomsday had evolved beyond the chronal energies that comprise Waverider's being... Otherwise DD wouldn't have been able to entirely cancel him out. /shrug

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My scan is from later in the comic. not to mention, your scans just show him being hit by it (if you didn't know, Superman's HV also has a concussive aspect to it) - he then walks around without a single indication he's being hurt, even has Superman is pouring it on.

So he has to be killed to adapt? No killing, no adapting?

Are you now agreeing with me that he can adapt and evolve? We can then move on?

Entropy succeeded because it is logically impossible for life to exist - because NOTHING exists. It's like asking what happened before the Big Bang.

Regarding Big Bang, something did exist before the Big Bang, otherwise there would not be a Big Bang at all.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Thanks, Galan for joining me!

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say-one thing is to adapt is to adapt to energy, the other thing is to adapt to what effects energy produces-like I said-Wavrider could easily stop time around DD-and than teleport it to the end of time or anywhere else-Waverider has done this many times-tricks like this are usual and within Waverider's natural abilities.
But like I said DD did not adapt to chronal energies, otherwise Waverider would be killed just like Radiant was-he would be cancelled/altered energy-pretty simple-instead Waverider simply reformed and btw survived the explosion of million nuclear blasts before that.

H/P DD simply cannot do anything against Waverider's ability of absolute time control/manipulation at all.

Originally posted by Juntai
Pretty much, everything that was thrown at Doomsday, only served to slow him down and make him madder, and make him stronger.
He caused backlashes, ignored, tanked, absorbed and outright used people's power against them at up to universal levels of power.

He's built to be a god killer.

Trying to get someone prove a negative is useless.
Instead, you need to work on proving your idea of how Zues running into a guy that's shown to wreck skyfathers as casually as a sunday walk, survives a beating from Doomsday if he doesn't BFR him or run for his life and actually battles him.

Doomsday is already evolved to a level beyond Zues by this point. HP was beyond amped Superman and Darkseid, and beings like Guardians and Waverider, etc.
He -adapts- to attacks, but on death he outright evolves to new incredible new heights of power and the method that beat him.
He encountered Guardians for the first time and was already more powerful and immediately adapted to their energy.

After his death to Superman, he became unstoppable, because he evolved beyond the level of power Superman used to beat him, which was the first time Superman dug into the well of his power and cut loose in the last couple pages of DOS. He knew if he didn't stop Doomsday, no one on Earth could.

To beat him after this required nothing short of entropy or BFR that we know of.

Sorry, but you are wrong about Waverider, since Waverider never even tried to stop time around DD after being backlashed, time trick will easily defeat H/P DD, just like it does and it did every other physical brick.
Plus, Waverider's device would teleport DD to the end of time and kill him there or teleport to every single part of the universe-end of H/P DD.

Originally posted by Galan007
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After all, Galan you are the one who made Waverider respect thread-so how can you say that time manipulation/time control which is Waverider's natural ability cannot work against DD?

You, of all people, know very well that H/P DD cannot do anything against time control/manipulation-the abilities that Waverider possesses and that you have shown in Waverider respect thread-so why do you claim otherwise?
It doesn't make any sense-so where is the problem here?

The same as Zeus who would do the same time control/manipulation tricks on H/P DD-that's end of H/P DD-so where is the problem here?

After all: Waverider witnesses Superman's death at the hands of Doomsday. Out of respect for his heroism, Waverider travels into the past in order to alter the course of time and prevent Superman's death. After stopping time around Superman and Doomsday just before they delivered their respective killing blows.

So, the same would happen with Waverider stopping time around H/P DD-so where is the problem?

Also, in your own repect thread:
Waverider effectively erased an entire timeline/universe/reality from existence during 'Armageddon 2001':

And you are saying that H/P DD would survive that-I'm sorry but you are 100% wrong here.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Even if somehow H/P DD managed to adapt to chronal energies, he still could not and cannot adapt to the effects that chronal energies are capable of-because the effects are not physical (effects are time control/manipulation)-and physical is the only thing that H/P DD can adapt to-and that's why Waverider wins over H/P DD every single time they both fight seriously.
This is why Zeus also owns H/P DD-if he (Zeus) chooses to use time control/manipulation powers.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It is as clear as the Hulk color 😬

Let me put it this way.

You fight vs Dorksaint, get a few rounds and you come out ok.
Lets say Dorksaint is on your same weight class, so he is somewhat on your pay grade. And the fight ends in a draw. Your body was able to take the punishment.

Then you feel cooky and decide that because you tie with Dorksaint you can fight Mike Tyson at his peak.

Mike Tyson beats the shit out of you and it taxes your body so bad that you end up on the hospital under intensive care. Because your body was not able to take the punishment and you lost all your strength.

That is basically what happened to Hulk when He fought Zeus.

Btw I will pay to see Mike Tyson bating you up.

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😂 good analogy.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
And the fight ends in a draw.

Reported for lowballing.

Originally posted by Mister Supreme
Thanks, Galan for joining me!

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say-one thing is to adapt is to adapt to energy, the other thing is to adapt to what effects energy produces-like I said-Wavrider could easily stop time around DD-and than teleport it to the end of time or anywhere else-Waverider has done this many times-tricks like this are usual and within Waverider's natural abilities.
But like I said DD did not adapt to chronal energies, otherwise Waverider would be killed just like Radiant was-he would be cancelled/altered energy-pretty simple-instead Waverider simply reformed and btw survived the explosion of million nuclear blasts before that.

H/P DD simply cannot do anything against Waverider's ability of absolute time control/manipulation at all.

Originally posted by Mister Supreme
After all, Galan you are the one who made Waverider respect thread-so how can you say that time manipulation/time control which is Waverider's natural ability cannot work against DD?

You, of all people, know very well that H/P DD cannot do anything against time control/manipulation-the abilities that Waverider possesses and that you have shown in Waverider respect thread-so why do you claim otherwise?
It doesn't make any sense-so where is the problem here?

The same as Zeus who would do the same time control/manipulation tricks on H/P DD-that's end of H/P DD-so where is the problem here?

After all: Waverider witnesses Superman's death at the hands of Doomsday. Out of respect for his heroism, Waverider travels into the past in order to alter the course of time and prevent Superman's death. After stopping time around Superman and Doomsday just before they delivered their respective killing blows.

So, the same would happen with Waverider stopping time around H/P DD-so where is the problem?

Also, in your own repect thread:
Waverider effectively erased an entire timeline/universe/reality from existence during 'Armageddon 2001':

And you are saying that H/P DD would survive that-I'm sorry but you are 100% wrong here.

Going with Zeus here DD does better than Hulk doe

Zeus wins this for sure.

Originally posted by Diesldude
😂 good analogy.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported for lowballing.

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Originally posted by iceman24567
Going with Zeus here DD does better than Hulk doe

Zeus wins.