High End Thor vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Yes bro. 😐

Unless you take into account that it took the energy of Mjolnir/Stormbreaker to knock him out and use the highest feats for Mjolnir as the standard energy output or something.

Even with that taking into account.

Asgard Space was confirmed and reinforced through multiple plot points to be a fully formed Universe along with the rest of the Nine Worlds.

So Asgard is an alternate universe to 616 universe? Proof?

No I'm not saying that because Mephisto's realm is not one of the Nine Worlds. Like, how is that even remotely relevant?

Fyi, Mephisto's realm has been depicted as basically a fully formed Universe before but that's not really important.

Because you're taking pocket universes as fully formed universes.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
My scan already explains it all. Asgard as in the one in Broxton is the "heart" of Asgard the universe. Why are you trying to deny what's clearly on panel? When one refers to Midgard as earth they are correct. When one refers to Midgard as the universal mortal plane(universe) connected to Yggdrassil they are also right. Think of New York the city within New York the state.

I haven't denied anything on panel. Reread my posts.

Even others are saying the same thing:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Midgard refers to Earth but like every member of the 10 worlds it apparently serves a centre and connection to the World Tree for the aligning Universe. In Asgard Space it was Asgard itself and so on.

Rage doesn't know jack shiet about Asgard, though.

Apparently Asgard is an alternate universe to 616 universe now.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Apparently Asgard is an alternate universe to 616 universe now.

😂

Also, the rest of the worlds of the world tree outside of Midgard exist in Asgardian Realm/Asgardian Space, so the idea that that each of them are universes is also false.

They exist in different places in that Asgardian space, but they're interlocking and connected across those distances by various portals and tunnels. In some cases, walking to the edge of one sends you to the next.

You can literally walk across the Asgardian Realm, and its like a continent.

The big problem of "if you take Asgard out of Asgard" you leave the entire realm defenseless, as Asgard was the key to all of it, and to Midgard, and Asgardian space has a lot of monsters.

The Continent of Asgard [if you walked and mapped it out]:

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But my original point, was simply that Midgard is Earth.

And it is.

And then Celph tried to scan spam me and say I was wrong.

That map is outdated. The rest of the Nine Worlds are all in separate Universes and not part of Asgard Space. That doesn't even make sense with some of the plot points going on recently. For example Odin shunting Surturs Fire and sealing it in Asgard Space which he would later remake. I wouldn't have a problem with you questioning it (I'm on my laptop so I'll post the relevant scans later) but calling something false and providing misinformation when you clearly don't have all the facts irritates me.

And no, the key problem of removing Asgard from Asgard Space was that you took the heart of one Universe and put it into another. That allowed the Dark Gods to invade and escape their dying Universe as it was on the verge of entropic decay and death but their Skyfather was sustaining it with his will. This is such a major plot point that I'm guessing you didn't read the story.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Apparently Asgard is an alternate universe to 616 universe now.

😂

Why is that funny?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even with that taking into account.

So Asgard is an alternate universe to 616 universe? Proof?

Because you're taking pocket universes as fully formed universes.

The scans have been posted and you know the relevant comics. I'm not going to feed you information, you're a big boy, read.

Bro:

If you don't want to except something that's fine, be crazy, but don't waste time pretending like you are open to being taught. I've posted this scan directed at you with a detailed description full of complimentary evidence in the past with your response being "Nuh-uh".Not doing it again.

And no, it's not an alternate Universe. The Ultimate Universe is an alternate Universe. Asgard is more like the negative zone.

So what designation universe is Asgard now? 617?

And worlds are universes?

I mean I don't want anyone to take me wrong but I know Marvel more than DC embellishes it's language a lot.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That map is outdated. The rest of the Nine Worlds are all in separate Universes and not part of Asgard Space. That doesn't even make sense with some of the plot points going on recently. For example Odin shunting Surturs Fire and sealing it in Asgard Space which he would later remake. I wouldn't have a problem with you questioning it (I'm on my laptop so I'll post the relevant scans later) but calling something false and providing misinformation when you clearly don't have all the facts irritates me.

And no, the key problem of removing Asgard from Asgard Space was that you took the heart of one Universe and put it into another. That allowed the Dark Gods to invade and escape their dying Universe as it was on the verge of entropic decay and death but their Skyfather was sustaining it with his will. This is such a major plot point that I'm guessing you didn't read the story.

I'm posting stuff that's like 5 years old. And not entirely true, throughout Thors history, the other nine worlds being separate dimensions is hardly unheard of.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So what designation universe is Asgard now? 617?

And worlds are universes?

I mean I don't want anyone to take me wrong but I know Marvel more than DC embellishes it's language a lot.

No, I just explicitly said its not an alternate Universe in the same sense as the Ultimates.

Yes, the Nine Worlds are like Universes. But each intricaly connected with each other.

So basically a pocketverse?

Whats your definition of a pocket Universe? Because I consider an alternate Universe to be a fully functional level of creation, basically a mini Multiverse along with alternate time lines, parallel realities and adjacent dimensions.

A small limited universe inside another universe with it's own sets of rules

Not to bw confused wirh alternative reality or parallel timeline.

I have a few questions. We all know that Doomsday is Doomsday regardless of story arc. Hunter Prey being a story and all. Did Doomsday become weaker after being flash fried by Imperiex? After that I believe that he was known as Rex if I'm correct? He still retained all of his strength, but he could now experience fear because he was no longer a near mindless engine of destruction. Did he begin his cycle all over again once his cells were completely destroyed? If he began his cycle all over again he would have reverted to being the feeble being that was killed over and over again as explained in his origins right?

His origin story tells of a being that is destroyed over and over again until he adapts and destroys the things that destroyed him. But that really doesn't make any sense, because if it did he would have come back with the capability of facing off against Imperiex right? Instead what we see next is a being far weaker than he was during Hunter Prey. Later on Cyborg Superman apparently blast him with more ower than Imperiex himself.

Look at this.

Cyborg Superman's blast cuts right through his bones, whereas Imperiex fried the meat off of his bones but did not actually disintegrate his entire body, skeleton and all. Viewing the scan above, one would imagine that if Cyborg Superman's beam had been large enough to encompass Doomsday's entire body, that Doomsday would have been disintegrated. Right? I'm sure that I'm missing something, or am I?

Original Doomsday died in OWAW. All of later Doomsdays are clones.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The scans have been posted and you know the relevant comics. I'm not going to feed you information, you're a big boy, read.

Bro:

If you don't want to except something that's fine, be crazy, but don't waste time pretending like you are open to being taught. I've posted this scan directed at you with a detailed description full of complimentary evidence in the past with your response being "Nuh-uh".Not doing it again.

And no, it's not an alternate Universe. The Ultimate Universe is an alternate Universe. Asgard is more like the negative zone.

Is Asgard an alternate universe to 616 universe now? Yes or No.

Negative Zone is an alternate universe too. Its a separate universe from 616 universe. If Asgard isn't an alternate universe, its a pocket universe.

Simple.

Oh, please, all you have to do with DD is to travel back in time and prevent DD's birth from the very beginning, end of story.