Originally posted by Sinious
Taken from Ant's RT:"You fought Lord Scourge to a standstill until he broke off the battle for some reason. See what he has to say in the throne room of the Emperor's fortress." ―Scourge (Star Wars: The Old Republic)
Based on the fact that Scourge should be put up against guys who can humiliate Savage like Darth Maul, Count Dooku etc.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Seems reasonable to me.
Seems legit.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceYeah and the quote and the dialogue between them explains why he faked losing. Am I missing something here?
Yeah, I've played the game and read the journal before, Sinious. Guess which one clearly shows the HoT in the superior position when combat ends?
Uh, no it really doesn't. It's kind of retarded to think that because you can go up against an Act II HoT, that you can go up against the higher ups in the mythos. Act II HoT isn't even in their prime, and being facerolled by the Emperor isn't a feat. 😬HoT has other feats as I'm sure you know. His Act II incarnation is relatively close to his endgame and even at the earlier stages of the game, HoT got great feats.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
/moves faster than blaster fire
/contends with Kenobi in sabers
/able to fight evenly with Ventress before being noticeably Force Sensitive
/utterly destroys Mandalorian Iron
/stronger than Maul in the Force
/TK'ing armies, as well as Kenobi and Skywalker
/defeating some of the most powerful Jedi in history
>can't contend with an Act II HoT who's best feat is defeating AngralSeems legit.
Savage also failed to defeat Kenobi even with the aid of his brother. Like I sad, TCW duels are mad inconsistent. Also when did he evenly fight Ventress before being noticeably force sensitive?
LOL @ Savage > Maul in the force.
Originally posted by Sinious
[B]Yeah and the quote and the dialogue between them explains why he faked losing. Am I missing something here?
HoT has other feats as I'm sure you know. His Act II incarnation is relatively close to his endgame and even at the earlier stages of the game, HoT got great feats.
Originally posted by Sinious
Savage also failed to defeat Kenobi even with the aid of his brother. Like I sad, TCW duels are mad inconsistent. Also when did he evenly fight Ventress before being noticeably force sensitive?
LOL @ Savage > Maul in the force.
Well Scourge says he could've killed him on Quesh and considering everything else he said is true, I have no reason to think this is a lie. Not to mention, Scourge clearly doesn't want to kill HoT. So fighting HoT without trying to kill him but also make it realistic in the eyes of the Emperor? That actually sounds harder than fighting him all out. 👆
For HoT's achievements:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t586426.html
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
[B You still haven't given me anything that shows how powerful the HoT is supposed to be prior to this besides, "Well it's the HoT, so," and considering most of Act II is spent killing randoms and on-Force Sensitives, even entertaining that notion is incredibly generous. [/B]
Then HoT is stated multiple times to be the greatest living Jedi, including by Scourge himself. Savage isn't on par with even the Barsen'thor, he ain't on the Hero's level.
Originally posted by Sinious
hence the inconsistency.
Where Ventress made him her ***** lol
As for Savage being more powerful than Maul, that's something Dooku says. Whether you think Savage actually reached that level is more a matter of opinion, but given the fact Savage has plenty of feats to back up the claim, where as Maul has inferior showings in the Force all around, I'm going to go with yes.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Then HoT is stated multiple times to be the greatest living Jedi, including by Scourge himself. Savage isn't on par with even the Barsen'thor, he ain't on the Hero's level.
Originally posted by Sinious
Well Scourge says he could've killed him on Quesh and considering everything else he said is true, I have no reason to think this is a lie.
Not to mention, Scourge clearly doesn't want to kill HoT. So fighting HoT without trying to kill him but also make it realistic in the eyes of the Emperor? That actually sounds harder than fighting him all out. 👆
For HoT's achievements:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t586426.html
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
/moves faster than blaster fire
So he's on one level with TPM!Kenobi and SotE!Luke? 👆
/contends with Kenobi in sabers
If by "contending" you mean "losing an arm when fighting Kenobi together with his brother", then you would have a point.
/able to fight evenly with Ventress before being noticeably Force Sensitive
Laughable.
Ventress totally destroys him. It's not even a contest.
/utterly destroys Mandalorian Iron
Where?
/stronger than Maul in the Force
Likewise completely laughable.
/TK'ing armies, as well as Kenobi and Skywalker
"Armies"? Once again: Where? And since I've still not seen a TK attack being "resisted", being capable of force pushing Kenobi and Skywalker (or force choking Ventress and Dooku) is not that impressive.
/defeating some of the most powerful Jedi in history
Once more: Where?
>can't contend with an Act II HoT who's best feat is defeating Angral
Is that the same Angral who once did take it on him to attack Darth Baras in a direct confrontation? Just asking.
Originally posted by Nai
So he's on one level with TPM!Kenobi and SotE!Luke? 👆
If by "contending" you mean "losing an arm when fighting Kenobi together with his brother", then you would have a point.
Laughable.Ventress totally destroys him. It's not even a contest.
Where?
Likewise completely laughable.
"Armies"? Once again: Where? And since I've still not seen a TK attack being "resisted", being capable of force pushing Kenobi and Skywalker (or force choking Ventress and Dooku) is not that impressive.
Once more: Where?
Is that the same Angral who once did take it on him to attack Darth Baras in a direct confrontation? Just asking.