The Rakata. They enslaved half the galaxy iirc and inflicted a number of cruelties. And when you think about it, technology like the Mindspear, Mind trap and such, had to be tested. When you consider their behavior towards their lesser slaves. The implications are pretty nasty.
I'd go with the Rakata just because of how brutal and dominant they were.
The Yuuzhan Vong will steamroll the Rakatan, frankly.
They have much more resources, bigger and better ships, and so on.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The Rakata. They enslaved half the galaxy iirc and inflicted a number of cruelties. And when you think about it, technology like the Mindspear, Mind trap and such, had to be tested. When you consider their behavior towards their lesser slaves. The implications are pretty nasty.I'd go with the Rakata just because of how brutal and dominant they were.
They had around 500 worlds, they were spread out over the galaxy, but their hyperdrive could only find force-rich worlds so total resources was relatively puny.
Also, they're force users, Vong are blindspots in the force.
Rakatans had virtually endless supply of vessels through wonders such as Star Forge. Unless Star Forge and similar platforms are compromised, Rakatans may hold their own against any adversary.
Vong cannot use powers like Battle Meditation to turn the tide in battles from safe distance and they would need to overcome the defenses of Star Forge and similar stuff to achieve breakthrough.
As for being EVIL, I believe that Rakatans were really evil. They enslaved other races and civilizations and were generally cruel. Luckily for the slaves, a powerful plague took care of the Rakatans.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Rakata were enslaving bitches like the World Razer. 😬
The Vong's killcount trumps the World Razer's pretty easily.
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Rakatans had virtually endless supply of vessels through wonders such as Star Forge. Unless Star Forge and similar platforms are compromised, Rakatans may hold their own against any adversary.
That means they always have replacement ships coming in, but their ships are smaller and weaker (you know the ships Darth Malak was putting out with the Forge? Those were 600 meters long. The Vong's normal ships are 1,600 meters long, and they also have 2 km and 8 km long classes), they still only have so much crew, and even the Forge only puts out so many ships at one time.
Also, tactically they were a bit fractuous and tribal in their methods. They relied a fair bit on their superior tech, powers, and numbers to most foes.
Vong cannot use powers like Battle Meditation to turn the tide in battles from safe distance and they would need to overcome the defenses of Star Forge and similar stuff to achieve breakthrough.
Which is pretty easy with a worldship, or even the normal big capital ships.
As for being EVIL, I believe that Rakatans were really evil. They enslaved other races and civilizations and were generally cruel. Luckily for the slaves, a powerful plague took care of the Rakatans.
They're both really evil ^^
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're telling me the Vong as a whole killed more people than one entity? No shit.
And possess a lot more total power, yea. The IE beating the World Razer doesn't mean they can stand up to the Vong.
They just have so much more power than the Infinite Empire- they can run the Rakatan out of Rakatan while there's Vong to spare.
You're basing your opinions on what exactly? Because considering the World Razer can, as the name implies, raze worlds and eat stars, I'm putting him well above anything the Vong have actually faced, including the known galaxy.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Federation?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're basing your opinions on what exactly? Because considering the World Razer can, as the name implies, raze worlds and eat stars, I'm putting him well above anything the Vong have actually faced, including the known galaxy.
But, we know the Rakatan's military strength, we've seen them in action against the Jed'aii and we've seen the Star Forge and other Rakatan remnant military technology in action. That they managed to take it down says that for it's destructive capability, it is definitely beatable.
I mean, the Sun Crusher could kill stars too, and it wasn't that hard to stop it.
The Galactic Federation of Free Alliances. You know, the galaxy during the Vong Invasion.
The thing is, the GFFA is the whole galaxy and has SSD-sized ships in it's fleet.
The Infinite Empire isn't, and doesn't.
A big GFFA fleet could just fly to the Star Forge, blow up Rakatan defenses, and take it down, not much question. The Rakatan ships are frigate-sized, a single Mon Cal Star Defender is gonna outmass a whole fleet of them, and were combatable by the Jed'aii's ancient conventional tech ships and starfighters.
Originally posted by Q99
But, we know the Rakatan's military strength, we've seen them in action against the Jed'aii and we've seen the Star Forge and other Rakatan remnant military technology in action. That they managed to take it down says that for it's destructive capability, it is definitely beatable.
I mean, the Sun Crusher could kill stars too, and it wasn't that hard to stop it.
The thing is, the GFFA is the whole galaxy and has SSD-sized ships in it's fleet.The Infinite Empire isn't, and doesn't.
A big GFFA fleet could just fly to the Star Forge, blow up Rakatan defenses, and take it down, not much question.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Malgus stated Rakatan tech is far greater than TOR tech, kek.And indeed, we saw Rakata tech being used to basically steamroll the Republic. 👆
The fact that the the Republic was able to put up a fight at all says how much they're disadvantaged- note the TOR Republic's ship of the line is 300 meters long. The fighting went on for a good while when Malak had the Star Forge, after all. And killing the Star Forge ships even with Republic Hammerheads was quite doable, the problem was more kept coming.
Note, the Vong initially steamrolled the New Republic and Imperial Remnant worlds, with 1,200 meter Mon Cals and 1,600 meter ISDs as their standard ships of the line. And the problem was killing the Vong ships to begin with, with their high-defense Dovin Basals and all that.