Originally posted by Zenwolf
So were gonna just judge 1 sole battle out of...the countless others and say the Rebels and Empire suck?
Ok...can we do that for other factions too? What about characters?
Come on now Fresh...and plus that, the Empire still would have won if it weren't for Chewie hijacking the AT-ST.
Just going off of 1 battle doesn't mean much, especially when the Empire had many things going against them in that 1 battle.Doesn't make them terrible.
Originally posted by Q99
The only reason the World Razer is scary is because it reportedly performed superweapon-esque feats. Something with those feats can be quite beatable whether they're mechanical or a living being.
The Rebel Alliance fought using Guerrilla tactics, the Empire would have destroyed them in a straight up battle. Heck, they almost did at Endor. :I
As for the topic at hand, the Vong were capable of invading an entire Galaxy and at one battle had over tens of thousands of ships. I believe the most ships seen -on screen for the Rakta was the Star Forge's fleet, one can probably get a number since the fleet was so huge it can be visible next to a freaking star.
Seriously, where did this idea that bigger is better come from? Didn't seem to stop Japan. Hell, in TOR, the Sith Empire is far smaller than the Republic. Hasn't been totally decimated yet by it.
Originally posted by The Merchant
The Rebel Alliance fought using Guerrilla tactics, the Empire would have destroyed them in a straight up battle. Heck, they almost did at Endor. :I
As for the topic at hand, the Vong were capable of invading an entire Galaxy and at one battle had over tens of thousands of ships. I believe the most ships seen -on screen for the Rakta was the Star Forge's fleet, one can probably get a number since the fleet was so huge it can be visible next to a freaking star.
Those ships?
Never found them to be particularly impressive tbh. But yeah, the IE had those too.
The idea that, because they couldn'tdidn't defeat the rebellion, the GE won't/can't stomp TOR-era factions is quite silly.
First, the notion that size isn't important or even potentially decisive smacks of some deep-seated Freudian denial. Not only does the Empire control vastly more territory than any TOR faction, it therefore possesses vastly more industry, manpower, and resources on which to draw. These things are very much relevant in any military engagement, real or fictional.
**On top of that, not only does the Empire outstrip any TOR faction in terms of territorial size and industrial base, but in terms of military strength, it's not even remotely comparable:
Second, as Q correctly points out, the Empire's vessels have a distinct size and technological advantage {yes, size and mass are very much relevant in vessel-to-vessel comparisons} due to thousands of years of further research and experimentation.
Third, the reason the Empire failed to defeat the Rebellion was due to the failures of its leadership, not its military capability. The Emperor had the rebellion by the balls at Endor {by his own design!} and could have decapitated the entire opposition in one fell swoop but opted for theatrics over efficiency. We know exactly why he did that. So unless there's a Skywalker involved somewhere, I'm doubting a repeat performance. 😬
Fourth, real world history is littered with examples of great military powers suffering embarrassments at the hands of smaller, weaker foes. The context of these engagements is critical. You need only look at the allied coalition's performance against Iraq in 2003. Iraq's formal military was pretty much curbstomped in short order and yet the coalition spent 10 years fighting insurgents and terrorists who were less organized, less armed, and outnumbered precisely because guerrilla tactics don't lend themselves well to even the swiftest and smartest superpowers.
All that said, yes, the Galactic Empire would absolutely take any TOR era faction to the curb. They're bigger, stronger, and faster to an absurd degree. Maybe after they're smashed, TOR insurgents will become a protracted nuisance to the Empire, but they will be smashed all the same and only after. 👆
