Super Power Beat Down coming up: Maul vs Spiderman

Started by FreshestSlice7 pages
FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Sinious
@ Freshest

Details/Scans of him breaking out of Grey's TK?


If I had comicbooks older than my grandparents in my house, I'd love to get them. But I don't, so. As for details, it's Spider-Man fighting the X-Man. He also was at a major disadvantage at the time given the concussion.

Also, you're missing the point. Superheros are much more OP in general as the concept of their stories come from comic books where SW characters are originated from a movie franchise so its natural that their feats are not as impressive as Marvel heroes.

We've seen live action Spider-Man lift pieces buildings. 😬

However, Star Wars characters have an advantage too, which is the Force.
Maul is tapping into something very unusual for Spiderman. Spidey doesn't really have any defense against the Force other than enduring the attacks but he won't be immune to force choke.

Except for the fact that Spider-Man not only knows what Star Wars is, and hates it btw, has seen and combated every single ability Maul has access to. The fact that it comes from "the Force" doesn't make the ability itself somehow different or more powerful than if it came from a mutant.

Not to mention Maul has a lightsaber and is an excellent fighter who can defend himself against Spiderman's ranged attacks, which is a huge advantage cause Spidey doesn't carry weapons. The only main advantage Spiderman has is hand to hand and it will never come to that.

Because reasons? Marvel is full of combatants, with these things called "swords" that outstripe Maul in every way, and Spider-Man is faster than speeding cars. You're acting like because Maul has a lightsaber, it's somehow more deadly to Spider-Man than say a steel sword that would also kill him just as easily. The point is to not get hit period, and Spider-Man is perfectly capable of that being faster, stronger, and more agile than Maul.

Since this is an all out fight, Maul can easily abuse his force advantage and apply force choke. The feat you presented shows only strength and not durability.

It's almost like gravity exists and it was resting on his neck? It's almost like Maul can't pin Spider-Man down because nothing he can do with the Force is remotely comparable. Almost.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Still haven't seen a single argument that rescues Peter from getting choked. 👆
This isn't how debating works. You don't ignore 99 percent of Maul's showings and falsely assume he easily chokes Spider-Man out whose faced stronger, vastly more powerful opponents than Maul just because you really want Maul to win. The force isn't any more special or harder to combat than any other ability. We've seen the order 66 utterly crush the Jedi order with non force users save Vader. They were crushed so badly the few who remained went into hiding. We've also seen far weaker opponents get the better of force users such as Cad Bane defeating Kenobi in hand to hand combat.

Sinious Yo Da Best

@ Freshest

Dude, answer me this: do you think Darth Vader would also fall to Spiderman? (Just trying to understand if you're wanking Spidey or lowballing Maul) 🤨

Sinious Yo Da Best

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't how debating works. You don't ignore 99 percent of Maul's showings and falsely assume he easily chokes Spider-Man out whose faced stronger, vastly more powerful opponents than Maul just because you really want Maul to win. The force isn't any more special or harder to combat than any other ability. We've seen the order 66 utterly crush the Jedi order with non force users save Vader. They were crushed so badly the few who remained went into hiding. We've also seen far weaker opponents get the better of force users such as Cad Bane defeating Kenobi in hand to hand combat.
This is coming from the guy who openly refuses to acknowledge %99 of Maul's showings cause they're part of the old EU(in a EU forum) ?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
This is coming from the guy who openly refuses to acknowledge %99 of Maul's showings cause they're part of the old EU(in a EU forum) ?
Default rules are canon only. The rest doesn't count but of course you cling to the past.

Sinious Yo Da Best

All jokes aside, your avatar, sig, title and location are depressing. You're such a no life that you have 120k posts here all considered as trolling by everyone else in this forum and just in the last couple of weeks, you've spent hours every day trying to annoy people in SW forums just because your favorite ST character lost to Palpatine in another thread. I've seen some retarded things here but your butthurt probably stands alone 😂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
All jokes aside, your avatar, sig, title and location are depressing. You're such a no life that you have 120k posts here all considered as trolling by everyone else in this forum and just in the last couple of weeks, you've spent hours every day trying to annoy people in SW forums just because your favorite ST character lost to Palpatine in another thread. I've seen some retarded things here but your butthurt probably stands alone 😂
I have been here for eight years and am highly actively when I'm online. It's always amusing to hear another nerd say you're a bigger nerd than I am. I'm currently into Star Trek and Star Wars so I debate those topics. I'm a loud poster and I don't ever back down so that tends to people the wrong way. Who cares ? I alwYs will exp,ain't my reasoning and give evidence to back my case whether you agree or not.

I am not butthurt I want to debate the topic. I fight bias at every turn but unlike my opposition I don't tire, show weakness, or stop. I'm one in a trillion.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Good for you, buddy. You're clearly not biased and your profile doesn't give you away at all. 👆

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Good for you, buddy. You're clearly not biased and your profile doesn't give you away at all. 👆
So having fun with a sig for my one on one debate says I'm biased. Nah. Darth Ant did the same thing. I guess passion to you means bias. I debate the same way across the board. Bias is when your debating principles change from thread to thread or relying on an outlier feat and demanding people prove you wrong. I argue in character based off evidence in every thread.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Nah, you had stuff like that in your prof before all that. You just made it more plain after Ant.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Nah, you had stuff like that in your prof before all that. You just made it more plain after Ant.
Trash talking is what I do. I won't ever stop but that doesn't make me biased as I have already explained. Try to sit back and have more fun. You sound extremely bitter.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Your trolling(or whatever you wanna call it) isn't funny though. So I can't really have fun watching you f with people and you ignore context so seriously debating you is pointless as well.

Either get more entertaining or make more sense so our interactions can have some sort of function.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Sinious
@ Freshest

Dude, answer me this: do you think Darth Vader would also fall to Spiderman? (Just trying to understand if you're wanking Spidey or lowballing Maul) 🤨


Well for starters, Maul is nowhere near comparable to Vader. Second, yes. Fact is, Spider-Man, and many a comic book hero, are well beyond the scope of Star Wars. I already said this.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Your trolling(or whatever you wanna call it) isn't funny though. So I can't really have fun watching you f with people and you ignore context so seriously debating you is pointless as well.

Either get more entertaining or make more sense so our interactions can have some sort of function.

I never ignore the context of any scenes. I get it you don't like me but such is life. Whenever you go there's some dirtbag you can't stand. Deal with it and maybe try to prove me wrong. The point of this site is to debate not to say I can't stand this guy I'll ignore him.

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by Sinious
All jokes aside, your avatar, sig, title and location are depressing. You're such a no life that you have 120k posts here all considered as trolling by everyone else in this forum and just in the last couple of weeks, you've spent hours every day trying to annoy people in SW forums just because your favorite ST character lost to Palpatine in another thread. I've seen some retarded things here but your butthurt probably stands alone 😂

It's really quite sad.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's really quite sad.
Pick your head up and enjoy life more. There, there.

😂

Sinious Yo Da Best

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well for starters, Maul is nowhere near comparable to Vader. Second, yes. Fact is, Spider-Man, and many a comic book hero, are well beyond the scope of Star Wars. I already said this.
Then its too late to save you, brobeans.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never ignore the context of any scenes. I get it you don't like me but such is life. Whenever you go there's some dirtbag you can't stand. Deal with it and maybe try to prove me wrong. The point of this site is to debate not to say I can't stand this guy I'll ignore him.
I don't think I've ever had nor will have a problem with anyone on KMC so I don't have a problem with you either.

Someone like Palpatine or Yoda is clearly meant to be well above gunslingers. Top SW characters' EU portrayals are almost godlike and even in the movies they're clearly well above anyone with no legit superpowers. You're arguing against this which I find to be pointless.

Ngl, you're pretty good at standing your ground in debates but any sane person can see why a top tier force user can defeat a person who relies on guns and fists. Its like debating with someone who thinks a Clint Eastwood character could defeat Sauron from LOTR. Why would I waste my time with something like that?

Emperordmb LSDMB

Can you just **** off Quan?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Then its too late to save you, brobeans.
I don't think I've ever had nor will have a problem with anyone on KMC so I don't have a problem with you either.

Someone like Palpatine or Yoda is clearly meant to be well above gunslingers. Top SW characters' EU portrayals are almost godlike and even in the movies they're clearly well above anyone with no legit superpowers. You're arguing against this which I find to be pointless.

Ngl, you're pretty good at standing your ground in debates but any sane person can see why a top tier force user can defeat a person who relies on guns and fists. Its like debating with someone who thinks a Clint Eastwood character could defeat Sauron from LOTR. Why would I waste my time with something like that?

No, you can't make blanketed statements like that and expect that to pass go. The skill of every combatant matters not some vague baseless claim that they are beyond gunslingers. Jango Fett doesn't have superpowers nor does Pre Vizlsa or Cad Bane. Some of them killed and beat jedi. Jango was a legit challenge to Windu who took down the dark master of the Sith. If they aren't even beyond guys with no powers from their own universe how do you expect that generalized statement to apply to other fictional characters.

I tend to look at how characters are portrayed against other highly skilled characters who are armed with their best. If Yoda was beyond the clones he wouldn't bring Kenobi to the temple when they weren't in higher numbers. It's clearly an issue. Yoda also needed help from the clones in the first episode of the clone wars from the clones who said he wouldn't see that coming despite Yoda's precognition, etc.

The final nail in the coffin is when a larger group of droids were porrayed as greater than a decently sized group of Jedi including most of the best save Yoda. Dooku sat back and knew they'd be overwhelmed and we've seen even Jar Jar Binks stumble into a battlefield and take droids out who are awful.

This is evidence that supports my viewpoints not just a generalized baseless statement not founded on really anything.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Can you just **** off Quan?
Why ?