Turkey Shoots down Russian Fighter Jet

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/middleeast/warplane-crashes-near-syria-turkey-border/index.html

Foxnews blames Obama In 3...2...1...

Well this is.... something.

I don't know how this'll go. Will things escalate? Be talked out? Will it affect the activities of either in the area?

Not something we need to deal with at this point.

This turkey obviously took vengeance for all of his kin that will be eaten this Thursday.

Originally posted by Surtur
This turkey obviously took vengeance for all of his kin that will be eaten this Thursday.

Russia doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving though, because Russia doesn't have anything to be thankful for.

Of course they do, Putin's incredible physique is more then enough. Homeless people in Russia do not wear coats, even in winter. They keep warm by looking at pictures of a shirtless Putin.

This was intentional, imo. I've seen a video where the Syrian/Turkish rebels were cursing the dead Russian pilot and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" and "Mujahideen!". Those back-stabbing Islamists were never really allies of Russia.

One comment in the video said:
"So the plane was "clearly" over turkish airspace, but the ejected pilots landed at ISIS camp in Syria?? Sounds about right......"

Something's not right here...

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
This was intentional, imo. I've seen a video where the Syrian/Turkish rebels were cursing the dead Russian pilot and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" and "Mujahideen!". Those back-stabbing Islamists were never really allies of Russia.

One comment in the video said:
"So the plane was "clearly" over turkish airspace, but the ejected pilots landed at ISIS camp in Syria?? Sounds about right......"

Something's not right here...

I don't know the specifics yet so I can't ascertain whether the Turks or Russians are telling the truth about where the plane was when it was shot down, but I believe the Turks that at least at some point the jet violated Turkish airspace. Russians are finally paying the price for their constant prodding of NATO territory.

Just hoping this doesn't escalate....

Russia won't do anything here beyond severing diplomatic ties with Turkey, and even that might not go that far. They've been pushing airspace borders for a long time and Turkey is making a declaration that it won't be intimidated. Turkey likely has a clean shot here- or at least, it's impossible to show they they did not- and Russia's already too invested in troublesome areas to do more than protest. They'll make noise to avoid losing face is all.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Russia doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving though, because Russia doesn't have anything to be thankful for.

Ha

All this will do is further inhibit a large coalition to defeat Isis. Considering Russia needs that airspace and Turkey won't give it to them.

Good analysis here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34914375

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
This was intentional, imo. I've seen a video where the Syrian/Turkish rebels were cursing the dead Russian pilot and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" and "Mujahideen!". Those back-stabbing Islamists were never really allies of Russia.

It's not really a backstab if they were never allies, was it? Russia supports the Syrian regime, who Turkey doesn't...

It's just both should have a bigger enemy in Isis/Daesh, but they are basically on opposite sides of a proxy war before that. One that is in the best interests of both sides to not extent to a more direct one.

Also, Turkey aren't political Islamists (i.e. they have a secular, not islamist, state).

'Backstab' is taken from what Putin said and is rhetoric for for Putin's domestic audience- moral betrayal (genuine or otherwise) always plays well with the Russian crowd.

(that said, if this sort of thing happened to the US, I think they'd play that card as well- Russia, meanwhile, does have a few centuries of constantly being invaded to make it so paranoid)

Shit, Russian marine killed while conducting search for downed pilots.

http://sputniknews.com/world/20151124/1030686711/su24-rescue-syria-russia.html

the turkey rebellion has begun.

though, i don't know why they're starting with Russia... they don't even celebrate Thanksgiving.

😂😂

damnit. the joke was already made.

you people should know that corny jokes are my thing. 😬