Originally posted by h1a8
again, anyone, including humans, can perceive objects moving at light speeds or beyond provided that the object is moving over a large enough distance to increase the time to react. For example, a human flying at a thousand times the speed of light could avoid hitting a planet if they are 1AU away.Superman could arrive 5ft in front of Thor in less than a microsecond. What could Thor do in that amount of time?
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He teleports to it's vicinity and actually lands at or around it's path of trajectory. The ship passes him by moving several times the speed of light. He has no problem perceiving it as it wizzes by him and even reacts fast enough so as to not lose it completely, which ultimately allows him to catch up to it. Can a normal human do what he just did? If his perception and reaction times are such that he can never react to something moving at this insane level of speed, how did he ever see it go by him and move fast enough to track and catch up to it?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Better durability than the entire race of Eternals combined
Yeah - speed is NOT the issue here for Thor supporters to prove.We know Superman is fast enough to tag Thor. Once? Twice? Three times? It does not matter.
What DOES matter, is Thor's DURABILITY. Can he tank Superman's punches?
If yes (and it is a yes), how many can he take?
Then the ball is back in Superman's court. How many can he throw?
Back when a single Celestial was looked at as beyond cube beings and possibly Galactus
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They're not my comrades, although we agree that Superman wins.What the other posters may think or say, has no bearing on what I think or say. But as you bring the others up, I'm sure Philosophia or Juntai and I argued whether Superman/Flash have different gears they can shift into. Not sure how applicable it is to New 52 Supes, though. HAven't seen him doing this gear shift. Even if there IS a gear shift, with conscious thought involved - are you saying he has human level thought process speed? If not, how fast is his 'base'?
Abhi has posted Thor losing to Gladiator, when Glads is using his speed, so...like celey admits, his speed showings are all over the place (I keep referencing him because no one else is even bringing anything up).
Batman has tagged many a speedster pre-DCnU - so shall we say he has superspeed? You'd be the first to crucify me if I brought it up - and you'd be right for doing so.
You are not wrong - Thor has indeed perceived and chased Scuttlebutt - and admitted he was too slow. But that is by the by - what's important, is that he managed to see it.
But as you yourself say:
His speed isn't on that level, on average.
Dude, he increased his speed to catch up to Scuttlebutt who was already travelling faster than light and faster than Superman. You can't possibly be questionimg his flight speed. And like it or not, he was able to perceive while moving many times the speed of light. Speak to that.
Secondly, I AGREED his actual speed is all over the place as depicted, so what exactly is your quarrel? What I said, once again, is that a speed edge would not be the difference- anymore than Thors magic would be the difference. Oh, and tell Abby that a normal Gladiator has beem beaten by Thor...and the Masterson Thor.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
?http://i.imgur.com/m0gyTI5.png
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/VneAf3z.pngHe teleports to it's vicinity and actually lands at or around it's path of trajectory. The ship passes him by moving several times the speed of light. He has no problem perceiving it as it wizzes by him and even reacts fast enough so as to not lose it completely, which ultimately allows him to catch up to it. Can a normal human do what he just did? If his perception and reaction times are such that he can never react to something moving at this insane level of speed, how did he ever see it go by him and move fast enough to track and catch up to it?
Saints attempt to discredit this speed and perception feet is embarrassing. I thought he gave props when props were due?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
?http://i.imgur.com/m0gyTI5.png
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/VneAf3z.pngHe teleports to it's vicinity and actually lands at or around it's path of trajectory. The ship passes him by moving several times the speed of light. He has no problem perceiving it as it wizzes by him and even reacts fast enough so as to not lose it completely, which ultimately allows him to catch up to it. Can a normal human do what he just did? If his perception and reaction times are such that he can never react to something moving at this insane level of speed, how did he ever see it go by him and move fast enough to track and catch up to it?
That doesn't means he is that fast. Perceiving objects traveling at that speed is done by the characters all the time. Green Lanterns do it for living.
They are slow as ****.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Better durability than the entire race of Eternals combinedBack when a single Celestial was looked at as beyond cube beings and possibly Galactus
Superman vs Vyndktvx is a far better showing.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
During that scene with future Gladz, was Thor holding back while protecting the safety of an innocent?
And how do you reconcile Gladiator blitzing a Thor who was amped millions of times in speed?
Here's a more recent show of Thor's speed.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/21598755/6784114.jpg.html
"He's too fast. Take she hulk".
Hahaha.
Originally posted by carver9
In the scans ABHI posted, that isn't 616 Glads. 616 Glads and Thor never fought against each other.
Didn't Celey argue Thor tried protecting innocents? I see that, I think THE REIGNING. And even if Thor was trying in Abhi's scans, the context doesn't help anybody arguing for Thor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was holding back his speed?And how do you reconcile Gladiator blitzing a Thor who was amped millions of times in speed?
Here's a more recent show of Thor's speed.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/21598755/6784114.jpg.html"He's too fast. Take she hulk".
Hahaha.
Wow, lip service is a showing now? Desperate times. By the way, Spiderman is too fast for anyone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even someone like captain America can see ships coming at .2 lightspeed.That doesn't means he is that fast. Perceiving objects traveling at that speed is done by the characters all the time. Green Lanterns do it for living.
They are slow as ****.
If we are going by highest showings, Thor still nearly died in four attacks.
Superman vs Vyndktvx is a far better showing.
What a bullshit answer. First of all, he was able to perceive the ship FROM BEHIND, gauge it's speed and pursue it, then increase his speed to catch it which means he outpaced a ship that was already moving several times the speed of light. Can Captain America do that Mr. Lowballs? It's an incredible speed feat, end of story Sorry you don't like it, but it happened in comics.
And your counter to this is Sam Wilson's comment? 😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha. This kid is really gone to far end.Comparing someone to ISIS? For daring to not give a win to marvel character?
Reported. It's one thing to do it as a joke, it's one thing to use it repeatedly like some sort of insult.
Learn to read superfan, I said Pre-crISIS. Report my balls. Sorry if you are insulted, but you earned it by proving every day what a Superman zealot you are. Don't get made now, boo.
