Rogers, Bucky, Khan vs Sideous

Started by The_Tempest15 pages

And though Palpatine is unarmed, I assume he can still use the Force to enhance his strength, speed, and agility?

I would say everything but speed. Since we only saw him do that in saber combat, I think it goes against rules to use that for non saber feats.

......huh?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually you haven't since you really haven't explained anything. 😂 Game over.

Youth. Sidious beat maul and savage, those guards, and had Vader afraid to face him by himself and guess what they are all younger. Sidious has the force which will make him stronger. Sidious manipulated an entire government and became emperor, that beats anything Khan has done. Sidious has the power of the force to its highest degrees second only to EU Luke. Well if you mean like physical weapons like his gun vs LIGHTSBAER it's debatable.

You conceded the moment you tried to say that two second feat woudl translate into this battle.

Yes, I have.

Maul and Savage were both not tk beaten like dogs as you would claim. In that fight he needed his saber to defend himself. This is a wrap.

Eu Luke isn't canon. Why do you so blatantly troll and disregard the rules ? You have no respect for the movie versus forum and I despise you.

Palpatine's cavalier approach gets him killed. He displayed it against Yoda, madanlorians, Luke, etc.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I have.

Maul and Savage were both not tk beaten like dogs as you would claim. In that fight he needed his saber to defend himself. This is a wrap.

Eu Luke isn't canon. Why do you so blatantly troll and disregard the rules ? You have no respect for the movie versus forum and I despise you.

Palpatine's cavalier approach gets him killed. He displayed it against Yoda, madanlorians, Luke, etc.

Khan wins.

What did I say? Game over. I win, you lose again.

Well that there is irrelevant since they were TK dominated, maul twice,showing Sidious had the potential to do it he just chose not to.

I, not,disregarding rules. I'm just showing you just how powerful eh is that canon isn't big enough for Sidious. Well you know it would at least ring in my head that you despise me, except you have no reason to. I stay within the rules with the exception of when I first started here I attempted to use the books for hart potter but after getting the hang of it, I've stayed with the rules, and would only use non movie/TCW Rebels material just emphasize. Don't act like you've never broken the rules here.

Guess what, he killed throw guards, and became Emperor and really based on the evidence I've seen anyone in Sidious position wouldn't have expected Vader to do as he did.

Actaully this is a 3v1. So let me fix it for you. Rogers, Khan, and Bucky all lose to Sidious. No one has shown how,they get passe his TK choke or,any attacks.

EU feats are not welcome here.

Cut the crap

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What did I say? Game over. I win, you lose again.

Well that there is irrelevant since they were TK dominated, maul twice,showing Sidious had the potential to do it he just chose not to.

I, not,disregarding rules. I'm just showing you just how powerful eh is that canon isn't big enough for Sidious. Well you know it would at least ring in my head that you despise me, except you have no reason to. I stay within the rules with the exception of when I first started here I attempted to use the books for hart potter but after getting the hang of it, I've stayed with the rules, and would only use non movie/TCW Rebels material just emphasize. Don't act like you've never broken the rules here.

Guess what, he killed throw guards, and became Emperor and really based on the evidence I've seen anyone in Sidious position wouldn't have expected Vader to do as he did.

Actaully this is a 3v1. So let me fix it for you. Rogers, Khan, and Bucky all lose to Sidious. No one has shown how,they get passe his TK choke or,any attacks.

You lost and you're such a sore loser you tried citing eu feats.

So you agree he doesn't choose to hence my point. It isn't in character. Boom. **** yeah.

Already explained. Quit breaking the rules.

Khan kills him with one shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You lost and you're such a sore loser you tried citing eu feats.

So you agree he doesn't choose to hence my point. It isn't in character. Boom. **** yeah.

Already explained. Quit breaking the rules.

Khan kills him with one shot.

Why would I be a sore loser when I won?

We'll see he did that beciase he knows maul, he knows he capabilities. He doesn't know this team, so they won't have the same benefit. They get the mandalorian treatment and get choked out.

Explained why you broke the rules? There is no explanation, you broke them. So you're a hypocrite.

Hard to do that while he and the the others are being choked.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Why would I be a sore loser when I won?

We'll see he did that beciase he knows maul, he knows he capabilities. He doesn't know this team, so they won't have the same benefit. They get the mandalorian treatment and get choked out.

Explained why you broke the rules? There is no explanation, you broke them. So you're a hypocrite.

Hard to do that while he and the the others are being choked.

You did not win and actually tried breaking the rules.

He knew Yoda as well and gambled. He waits for mandalorians and doesn't try killing anyone right out of the fate.

Khan shoots him in far less time than 2 seconds.

Qui Gon and Obi Wan move at very high speed in TPM, Sidious is greater than them so why wouldn't he be able to do the same? All his attribute would be Force enhanced, he would take all three easily enough. Easier with his lightsaber tho so I can see why it was removed.

Originally posted by relentless1
Qui Gon and Obi Wan move at very high speed in TPM, Sidious is greater than them so why wouldn't he be able to do the same? All his attribute would be Force enhanced, he would take all three easily enough. Easier with his lightsaber tho so I can see why it was removed.
They move at high sprint speed away from combat. Bruce Lee can't fight while sprinting with the same control or reflexes. Awful debating here.

Sidious tried getting away from Yoda. It failed and Yoda needs a cane for gait.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You did not win and actually tried breaking the rules.

He knew Yoda as well and gambled. He waits for mandalorians and doesn't try killing anyone right out of the fate.

Khan shoots him in far less time than 2 seconds.

How is emphasizing breaking the rules?

No he didn't. He's never seen Yoda perform a deul, or use his powers up close. Where in the movies or TCW has he ever experienced Yoda's skills and power to the point he knew him just as well as Maul?

Again prove those two seconds will be here. Is Sidious walking off a ship and are these three recovering an unfair advantage? That seems rather unfair to me. They start off at an equal distance on I believe neutral ground and with a that Sidious just chokes them out.

This is a team effort not just Khan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How is emphasizing breaking the rules?

No he didn't. He's never seen Yoda perform a deul, or use his powers up close. Where in the movies or TCW has he ever experienced Yoda's skills and power to the point he knew him just as well as Maul?

Again prove those two seconds will be here. Is Sidious walking off a ship and are these three recovering an unfair advantage? That seems rather unfair to me. They start off at an equal distance on I believe neutral ground and with a that Sidious just chokes them out.

This is a team effort not just Khan.

It is against the rules so it has no bearing.

So you are saying he didn't know enough about Yoda as an esteemed Jedi master ? You're saying he's so ignorant he just had no idea. Your brain is always pushing the pedal in reverse.

You used a feat in which he didn't attack immediately. You didn't back your claim.

The team isn't needed as Khan solos.

I thought I included Ozy from watchmen this from Op.

He's in it.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I would say everything but speed. Since we only saw him do that in saber combat, I think it goes against rules to use that for non saber feats.

If he can move that fast with a saber... he can move that fast without one right?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If he can move that fast with a saber... he can move that fast without one right?
Whats easier to do move your sword to parry another or dodge it completely by moving your entire body ?

He didn't just move his sword. When he killed the three acclaimed Jedi he flew and flipped in the air towards them and attacked. It was just simply moving his arm. He was moving AND attacking. Same with his fight with Savage and Maul.. he's moving freely and easily while attacking.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't just move his sword. When he killed the three acclaimed Jedi he flew and flipped in the air towards them and attacked. It was just simply moving his arm. He was moving AND attacking. Same with his fight with Savage and Maul.. he's moving freely and easily while attacking.
The movements and attacks took seconds so it wasn't quick at all. the Jedi were just sub par and not on his level save Mace.

We clearly see when fighting someone skilled and even the subpar Jedi that he needed the sabers when they actually attacked. The one who didn't die that is.

Sidious dodged a few Opress strikes without his swords but needed his swords for the majority of the attacks from both he and Maul. That's the point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is against the rules so it has no bearing.

So you are saying he didn't know enough about Yoda as an esteemed Jedi master ? You're saying he's so ignorant he just had no idea. Your brain is always pushing the pedal in reverse.

You used a feat in which he didn't attack immediately. You didn't back your claim.

The team isn't needed as Khan solos.

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I'm not using it as evidence though so not agaisnt the rules.

That's a vague designation. You can say he's an esteemed fencer but you don't know how he fights, mind set, or anything. You just know he is and in that time everyone was called an esteemed Jedi master, Yoda, mace, Obi wan, polo Koon, mundi, all of them.

Context says he can since in that scene he had to come out of the ship and they were already ready. He choked them regardless and Khan and his companions will follow suit.

It's still a team effort, and khan dies along with the rest of them.

If Palpatine's allowed to dodge then he wins. If not he still has a chance but he will likely lose some as well.