Rogers, Bucky, Khan vs Sideous

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
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I'm not using it as evidence though so not agaisnt the rules.

That's a vague designation. You can say he's an esteemed fencer but you don't know how he fights, mind set, or anything. You just know he is and in that time everyone was called an esteemed Jedi master, Yoda, mace, Obi wan, polo Koon, mundi, all of them.

Context says he can since in that scene he had to come out of the ship and they were already ready. He choked them regardless and Khan and his companions will follow suit.

It's still a team effort, and khan dies along with the rest of them.

Yes, I do and I refer raced multiple showings to demonstrate his arrogance and combat retardation.

Based off what feats ?

Khan kills ruthlessly whereas Palpatine walks slowly and arrogantly at his foes. Difference.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The movements and attacks took seconds so it wasn't quick at all. the Jedi were just sub par and not on his level save Mace.

We clearly see when fighting someone skilled and even the subpar Jedi that he needed the sabers when they actually attacked. The one who didn't die that is.

Sidious dodged a few Opress strikes without his swords but needed his swords for the majority of the attacks from both he and Maul. That's the point.

False, the attacks happened so fast a human couldn't dream of reacting in time.

This is gotten old.

Adding in some new stips.

We add in a two weeks prep for ozy and time since they cant see the future..

And well give Sidious 3 day prep and he can use the force to see the future.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
False, the attacks happened so fast a human couldn't dream of reacting in time.

Of course real time doesn't matter in situations like this. The AUDIENCE HAS TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING. Why is that so hard of a concept for you to grasp. This concept seems to constantly allude you. This is a common occurrence in movies, ya know, them actually being able to see the action.

Take for example, X-Men Origins... We see the bullets fired at Deadpool when he blocks like 100 fired at him. Does that mean they were slower than normal bullets? Of course not, but it made it cool to see. We seem movies capture bullets, missiles or other projectiles all the time... yet a human could never actually perceive them in real life. Yet in a movie we can. Does that mean they are slower bullets or missiles? Of course not, only a clown would say that.

That's why you should've read the books.. they illustrate exactly how these characters operate. Windu and Sids couldn't even be perceived by Anakin they were moving so fast. Yet, as the audience we can clearly see them... yet a force sensitive user of the highest order couldn't? So we have better perception than Anakin? Of course not. He's a clue for you, movies are made for the audience. Most times they actually like to show the audience what's happening. Shocking I know

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Of course real time doesn't matter in situations like this. The AUDIENCE HAS TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING. Why is that so hard of a concept for you to grasp. This concept seems to constantly allude you. This is a common occurrence in movies, ya know, them actually being able to see the action.

Take for example, X-Men Origins... We see the bullets fired at Deadpool when he blocks like 100 fired at him. Does that mean they were slower than normal bullets? Of course not, but it made it cool to see. We seem movies capture bullets, missiles or other projectiles all the time... yet a human could never actually perceive them in real life. Yet in a movie we can. Does that mean they are slower bullets or missiles? Of course not, only a clown would say that.

That's why you should've read the books.. they illustrate exactly how these characters operate. Windu and Sids couldn't even be perceived by Anakin they were moving so fast. Yet, as the audience we can clearly see them... yet a force sensitive user of the highest order couldn't? So we have better perception than Anakin? Of course not. He's a clue for you, movies are made for the audience. Most times they actually like to show the audience what's happening. Shocking I know

Proof in another movie doesn't have anything to do with Star Wars. Each fictional universe decides there isn't some commonality.

The books were meant to sell merchandise. The movie has all relevant information in the movie. As I said I already gave another example of Jango Fett firing off blasters and multiple shots before Windu can close the distance. You make the claim you prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you believe that real time doesn't matter you have to prove it. The only time they used force speed to run away they portrayed it in that manner. They made it clear and never fought at those speeds.

Proof in another movie doesn't have anything to do with Star Wars. Each fictional universe decides there isn't some commonality.

The books were meant to sell merchandise. The movie has all relevant information in the movie. As I said I already gave another example of Jango Fett firing off blasters and multiple shots before Windu can close the distance. You make the claim you prove it.

Huh?

Are you claiming missiles and bullets in movies are slower than real life because we can see them?

Sidious force chokes them to death.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Huh?

Are you claiming missiles and bullets in movies are slower than real life because we can see them?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This is gotten old.

Adding in some new stips.

We add in a two weeks prep for ozy and time since they cant see the future..

And well give Sidious 3 day prep and he can use the force to see the future.

Well in that case then it's no need for the team to even step into the arena. Sidious is a master manipulator. He can think up some many things on the spot, and has tricked an entire rebellion. Imagine what he is going to do with this team.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well in that case then it's no need for the team to even step into the arena. Sidious is a master manipulator. He can think up some many things on the spot, and has tricked an entire rebellion. Imagine what he is going to do with this team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then don't bring it up. Simple like you.

Yes, I do and I refer raced multiple showings to demonstrate his arrogance and combat retardation.

Based off what feats ?

Khan kills ruthlessly whereas Palpatine walks slowly and arrogantly at his foes. Difference.

Actaully the second line in that paragraph was the answer to the EU thing just saying.

Non of which take place here since actually there aren't any. All of your examples al, had circumstances to the, that actaully answer the situation.

That he choked the mandalorian guards, and Khan and his gang are basically that, so based off of evidence they will be choked.

Choking people out seems pretty ruthless to me.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actaully the second line in that paragraph was the answer to the EU thing just saying.

Non of which take place here since actually there aren't any. All of your examples al, had circumstances to the, that actaully answer the situation.

That he choked the mandalorian guards, and Khan and his gang are basically that, so based off of evidence they will be choked.

Choking people out seems pretty ruthless to me.

Point them out don't make vague non responses

After he arrogantly let his guard down.

It takes time and he does not do it right out of the gate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Point them out don't make vague non responses

After he arrogantly let his guard down.

It takes time and he does not do it right out of the gate.

Never conceded.

Letting Maul and Savge down for one, not very stupid. He knew Maul and knew he wasn't a threat. Luke and Vader thing. He had Vader on a tight leach and Vader just blocked Luke from killing the emperor so what does that tell you? The man is a genius.

Guard was never down. He had control over the entire thing.

Yes he does do it right out the gate. He did it twice. He can do it pretty much instantly dude. He did it agaisnt Anakin pretty instant and Dooku as well.

Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious force chokes them to death.

Not really, Cap and Bucky could shoot him while under duress from a choke hold.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Never conceded.

Letting Maul and Savge down for one, not very stupid. He knew Maul and knew he wasn't a threat. Luke and Vader thing. He had Vader on a tight leach and Vader just blocked Luke from killing the emperor so what does that tell you? The man is a genius.

Guard was never down. He had control over the entire thing.

Yes he does do it right out the gate. He did it twice. He can do it pretty much instantly dude. He did it agaisnt Anakin pretty instant and Dooku as well.

Vader killed his owner.

Prove it.

No, he let two seconds go by, let Maul and Opress go, and gave Yoda 35 seconds to recover because he's an asshat. Evidence speaks for my points.

Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious force chokes them to death.

Force choke does not work that fast.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Force choke does not work that fast.

Where is is shown any force power is insta kill even?