Originally posted by carver9
Yep. It reduces weight.
https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e8a95338197b77cb0126e7ef9c3b8bd0?convert_to_webp=true
He can most definitely reduce mass.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Still wonder why he wasn't crushing that telephone while he was jumping on the numbers to call someone while small. it definetly reduces weight atleast. Then again Galan knows about this more than me
Or Prixima Midnight is able to leap about doing kung fu stuff, whilst holding her stellar mass spear.
Is she that strong? Able to lift stellar mass casually?
Then why didn't Cage get atomised by a single punch from her? She certainly wasn't holding back.
The conclusion, is that PM can ALSO negate the mass of a star. Enough that it weighs a lot, sure. But it isn't the same as saying Hulk can lift an average sized star.
Originally posted by Delta1938
It most certainly is the way you presented it.
If your argument is based on actual Hulk feats, then present one. But the way you wrote it? Whether this is what you intended or not, it's saying, "It's like this because that's the way I think it should be."
If you're just going to fall back on that, why waste both our time with responses?
Originally posted by carver9
https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e8a95338197b77cb0126e7ef9c3b8bd0?convert_to_webp=trueHe can most definitely reduce mass.
I thought we don't feat share?
DcnU, carver.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Still wonder why he wasn't crushing that telephone while he was jumping on the numbers to call someone while small. it definetly reduces weight atleast. Then again Galan knows about this more than me
Yep. Please stop replying to him because he doesn't make sense. Proxima has to activate her ability. Shes not walking around with poison leaking out of her staff of Beams shooting out of her staff or the staff oozing black mass (like it did around Hulk) or turning purple, red, etc... or splitting up into 3 Spears.
It's an active power. Let me reword that. It's OBVIOUSLY a staff that has abilities that needs to be activated. Leave it be bro. Your argument will not get anywhere.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Apparently a guy who can output power surpassing the combined energy of Silver Surfer's power cosmic, Namor's strength and classic Doctor Strange's magic, or exerting so much force that a cosmic entity struggled to contain, breaking through barriers Kang's technology couldn't break through, pulling together separating tectonic plates while weakened, overcoming telekinetic repulsion strong enough to literally repel the barrier of reality, throwing a thumb sized gem into the core of a planet, or overcome his own strength redirected at him, and has a powerset that allows him to continuously exert his strength can't possess the strength to do that? Well you're unbiased
And I still don't get what you guys get out of making pointless spats with Carver
You forgot, he can also punch through anext indestructible barrier that Excalibur was unable to breach.
Originally posted by carver9
Yep. Please stop replying to him because he doesn't make sense. Proxima has to activate her ability. Shes not walking around with poison leaking out of her staff of Beams shooting out of her staff or the staff oozing black mass (like it did around Hulk) or turning purple, red, etc... or splitting up into 3 Spears.It's an active power. Let me reword that. It's OBVIOUSLY a staff that has abilities that needs to be activated. Leave it be bro. Your argument will not get anywhere.
Exactly.
So it has levels. Nothing in Proxima Midnights statement gave an indication how large this star was.
We can certainly argue that Batman's red suns were lighter, due to their size.
Yet, somehow, PMs star is meant to be = an average, generic star. Based on?
Hulk struggled to lift it.
But how strong is Hulk?
He lifted a star.
How heavy was this star?
Hulk struggled to lift it, so it must be heavy.
But how strong is Hulk?
Etc etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Same way the Earth under Hulk's feet wasn't crushed when a star is placed on it.
Or Prixima Midnight is able to leap about doing kung fu stuff, whilst holding her stellar mass spear.
Is she that strong? Able to lift stellar mass casually?
Then why didn't Cage get atomised by a single punch from her? She certainly wasn't holding back.
The conclusion, is that PM can ALSO negate the mass of a star. Enough that it weighs a lot, sure. But it isn't the same as saying Hulk can lift an average sized star.
Originally posted by carver9
You forgot, he can also punch through anext indestructible barrier that Excalibur was unable to breach.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Ummm, the spear wasn't said to have the weight of a star, the energy net around Hulk was said to have the weight of a star. And you're right, its hyperbole. And why Cage wasn't atomised? The same reason Cage didn't get hurt, let alone either sliced in half or get splattered when a bloodlusted inverted Thor during Axis sung Jarnbjorn at Cage.
👆.
And the reason for these spats?
They occur with everyone. If h1came in here now and said something silly, we all jump on him too.
For example, a day or so ago, carver was swearing he doesn't feat share. Only uses feats for characters if they've done it.
Then, in this thread, uses pre crisis? Certainly pre flashpoint scans for Ray Palmer, to support his argument for DCnU Ray.
Such blatant hypocrisy.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Or maybe he and his ilk are simply spouting nonsense to annoy you like always and chuckle at your reaction 🙄
Its not nonsense, however. Not in the way one thinks.
We're using carvers own logic. None, I repeat, NONE are arguing Batman has super stellar strength. You are right, he miniaturised his suns, and they have less mass.
But by the same token, neither was Hulks' showing proof of his stellar strength. There are other feats to use.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Ummm, the spear wasn't said to have the weight of a star, the energy net around Hulk was said to have the weight of a star. And you're right, its hyperbole. And why Cage wasn't atomised? The same reason Cage didn't get hurt, let alone either sliced in half or get splattered when a bloodlusted inverted Thor during Axis sung Jarnbjorn at Cage.
It was said to be a sun. I'm sure everyone here knows what a SUN is. It isn't your average star.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Sorry Carver, but I cannot go with you on this. Please tell where it was said Excalibur couldn't even breach it. Or where Excalibur was even mentioned in that comic. It simply said they found the wall impenetrable.
It said they tried everything to breach the wall but failed. If Black Knight was present, lol, and he's trying to breach something with his sword in his possession, what do you think he will do, punch and kick it or ya know, pull out his most powerful weapon. It all boils down to common sense.
Originally posted by carver9
It said they tried everything to breach the wall but failed. If Black Knight was present, lol, and he's trying to breach something with his sword in his possession, what do you think he will do, punch and kick it or ya know, pull out his most powerful weapon. It all boils down to common sense.
Originally posted by carver9
Hhhmmm...Hulks healing factor IS his durability but WWH is stronger than Thor by quite a bit. Don't know who wins this. Thor is the better fighter and I believe he could land the most licks so I'm giving it to Thor.