Star Wars TFA vs ANH

How does TFA stack up to ANH?

My thoughts:
• Both movies were are fun, exciting and enjoyable.
• Both movies have good special effects for their time.

Here is where the two differ –
• ANH was something new -
o The concept of the force was new
o Lightsabers were new
o Original Story and ideas
• TFA presented nothing new except new characters

I will give TFA one thing, and that is the main villains had more of a presence then Vader and the emperor in ANH.

I believe TFA is good for the new generation of Star Wars fans and for those who were not fans of the prequels something for them to enjoy again.
Thoughts?

They're both good. As long as you don't have to watch the Lucas "Enhanced" editions, A New Hope is better. And yah:

I believe TFA is good for the new generation of Star Wars fans and for those who were not fans of the prequels something for them to enjoy again.

The one that changed the face of Hollywood forever is the better movie lol.

I'd say that in terms of a lot of measurable qualities TFA is the technically superior and more sophisticated movie. The character's are more interesting and have more personality than ANH's cast. The writing and dialogue is stronger, even if it doesn't have the same memetic qualities as "these aren't the droids you're looking for" or "thats no moon" or "help me Obi-Wan Kenobi". I think the direction is better and obviously it has better production values, special effects and fights scenes etc. It has a bunch of interesting themes and does a lot of clever things.

Does all this make it the better movie? Maybe, maybe not. TFA does in many ways benefit from the evolution of cinema and the SW franchise. Directly comparing the two one might prefer the more modern, less dated sequel. Or one might choose the charm of the original. It probably comes down to personal taste and how you respond to different factors.

Even the fanboys admit that The Force Awakens is a rip-off of A New Hope.

It's decent by itself, but when watched with the rest of the saga in context it's the worst of all Star Wars movies because it's a retelling of another movie the series.

What is the purpose of this thread?

Originally posted by Astner
Even the fanboys admit that The Force Awakens is a rip-off of A New Hope.

It's decent by itself, but when watched with the rest of the saga in context it's the worst of all Star Wars movies because it's a retelling of another movie the series.

Originally posted by Astner
It's decent by itself, but when watched with the rest of the saga in context it's the worst of all Star Wars movies because it's a retelling of another movie the series.

I think TFA is the better movie from a technical perspective from its effect to choices in casting that may be due to the evolution of movie goers from the 70's to 2015 along with advances in technology in general. However ANH is a cultural icon that has mostly withstood the test of time and remains an entertaining flick to this day even though I don't think it has necessarily aged well and the special edition didn't really help it at all.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Originally posted by Astner
It's decent by itself,

Originally posted by Astner
It's decent by itself,

Originally posted by Astner
It's decent by itself,

ANH is definitely still the better movie. Better paced, inventing special effects as we know them today(to the point where special effects guys were asked for autographs at the time), two well executed character arcs as opposed to the questionable ones we see in TFA, a wonderfully colorful cast of characters that are all cultural icons, and creating the cultural juggernaut we know as Star Wars.

In my viewing of TFA, the audience only clapped a few times. Once at the Falcon, and once again at seeing Han(but not Leia, the bastards), both of which originated in this film. This is not even a contest in my mind.

But you guys don't wanna hear that so I'll just say TFA like a good little Stormtrooper.

Originally posted by Astner

I can read thanks. Just like I read you saying TFA is worse than TPM, AotC or the Clone Wars movie, in a non-joking way.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
But you guys don't wanna hear that so I'll just say TFA like a good little Stormtrooper.

You know it's funny how you keep saying this yet you seem to be the one the most annoyed by other peoples opinions and unwilling to listen.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I can read thanks. Just like I read you saying TFA is worse than TPM, AotC or the Clone Wars movie, in a non-joking way.

It's more of a homage. It's definitely not a retelling, there's enough different elements.

Also originality isn't a measurement of quality.

ANH for me. No question.

ANH, it started it all

Originally posted by Nephthys
I can read thanks. Just like I read you saying TFA is worse than TPM, AotC or the Clone Wars movie, in a non-joking way.

You know it's funny how you keep saying this yet you seem to be the one the most annoyed by other peoples opinions and unwilling to listen.

Neph you told me my opinion was flat out wrong and another jackass accused me of lowballing(as if this were a versus thread) the quality of the movie. Please tell me why I should feel like dissenting opinions are welcome?

Keep in mind I read your little think piece and while it wouldn't be very hard to pick it apart bit by bit, I opted not to because you enjoy a movie I didn't and that is fine. I've listened to ScreamPaste's arguments for this movie(mostly as it pertains to Ren because neither of us cared about Rey) and even appreciated Blax's comments on Ren's backstory(no one brings up Finn because he doesn't matter). I've told people to watch a movie I dislike(and my dislike grows with every passing day) because I keep thinking that maybe I'm missing something.

But yes, sure, I'm unwilling to listen.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's more of a homage. It's definitely not a retelling,

Originally posted by Nephthys
there's enough different elements.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also originality isn't a measurement of quality.

But no critique would argue that innovation doesn't add to the quality of a work.

Why can't people like both? Both are great films....

Star Wars: A New Hope
IMDB - 8.7/10
Rotten Tomatoes - 94%
Metacritic - 92%

Star Wars: The Force Awakens
IMDB - 8.6/10
Rotten Tomatoes - 94%
Metacritic - 81%

As I said, I love both films. I just like ANH a little more because:
A) It started Star Wars
B) It didn't borrow from previous films

That being said, it hasn't aged particularly well, especially if you have to watch the "Enhanced" versions.

Well as far as pure fun action movies both work rather well.

But if I had to watch only one, I'd watch ANH and were I a betting man I'd say it will be the only Star Wars movie(along with ESB and RotJ) people will care all that much about.