No TFA does not compare to the greatest movie in motion picture history Lol
The only measurement to be made between these 2 is on how many ways TFA ripped ANH off.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Star Wars: A New Hope
IMDB - 8.7/10
Rotten Tomatoes - 94%
Metacritic - 92%Star Wars: The Force Awakens
IMDB - 8.6/10
Rotten Tomatoes - 94%
Metacritic - 81%
Oohh Same Scores on RT and IMDB, meaning they MUST be comparable.
Lets just ignore that one of them has proven to be a timeless classic and the other is in theatres right now at the peak of its hype.
Originally posted by AuraAngelANH isn't very entertaining today and looks bad. The acting in it is hideous in various scenes. The acting in TFA is much better and Harrison ford definitely shows how much better of an actor he became comparing this to ANH.
I'm actually curious as to the specifics on your opinion Quan. mmm
ANH who Lucas himself was greatly disappointed with.
Originally posted by Darth ThorANH is only the greatest in certain minds. This is a subjective topic, kid. TFA; hands down.
No TFA does not compare to the greatest movie in motion picture history LolThe only measurement to be made between these 2 is on how many ways TFA ripped ANH off.
Oohh Same Scores on RT and IMDB, meaning they MUST be comparable.
Lets just ignore that one of them has proven to be a timeless classic and the other is in theatres right now at the peak of its hype.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
No TFA does not compare to the greatest movie in motion picture history Lol.
It's not entirely that good lol. Stuff like the Godfather, Citizen Kane, and Vertigo are still probably "better" movies.
But A New Hope did unquestionably shape Hollywood into what it is today, for better and for worse.
Originally posted by AuraAngelI watched citizen Kane years ago and it was gutter trash. How anyone could enjoy that film boggles my mind.
It's not entirely that good lol. Stuff like the Godfather, Citizen Kane, and Vertigo are still probably "better" movies.But A New Hope did unquestionably shape Hollywood into what it is today, for better and for worse.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
It's not entirely that good lol. Stuff like the Godfather, Citizen Kane, and Vertigo are still probably "better" movies.But A New Hope did unquestionably shape Hollywood into what it is today, for better and for worse.
I meant to me obviously.
But it's name certainly comes up in most of those "greatest movies ever made" lists and conversations. I doubt TFA will Lol
Originally posted by quanchi112
I watched citizen Kane years ago and it was gutter trash. How anyone could enjoy that film boggles my mind.
It's the camera work. It is hard for us to appreciate now but growing up in an era where movies were still the most technologically impressive machine, a film that experiments with that is groundbreaking. Some of the shots in the film are just utterly unforgettable. Keep in mind when critics pick the best picture of all time or something like that, they're usually talking about movies that push the boundaries of the industry and the art of film. You won't see TFA being praised like that. Not because it is a bad movie but because Abrams really wasn't trying to experiment with film so much as capture the spirit of the original trilogy. Even if you loved the movie, it's not really trying to be anything more than that.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I meant to me obviously.But it's name certainly comes up in most of those "greatest movies ever made" lists and conversations. I doubt TFA will Lol
To be fair to TFA, ANH came out to a much different societal landscape. The 70s were so jaded and bitter that a film with such heart gave people something they were lacking. ANH didn't just change movies but the hearts of people watching movies(at the time).
TFA on the other hand is living in a less bleak age. We're still plenty jaded but the Marvel Cinematic Universe doing as well as it does is a strong indication that the people love having heroes on the big screen. It is also doing more with the experimentation of film but that is another story.
I do not factor in originality at all when determining my overall enjoyment/satisfaction with a film. It either works or it doesn't. It doesn't have to be groundbreaking and even then I've seen awfully bad groundbreaking films Take for instance dragon age origins which was taken from various pieces of fiction but the story and the experience was amazing. AFA wasn't amazing but it was good and started off a new trilogy better than Phantom Menace or a New Hope did IMO.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Neph you told me my opinion was flat out wrong and another jackass accused me of lowballing(as if this were a versus thread) the quality of the movie. Please tell me why I should feel like dissenting opinions are welcome?Keep in mind I read your little think piece and while it wouldn't be very hard to pick it apart bit by bit, I opted not to because you enjoy a movie I didn't and that is fine. I've listened to ScreamPaste's arguments for this movie(mostly as it pertains to Ren because neither of us cared about Rey) and even appreciated Blax's comments on Ren's backstory(no one brings up Finn because he doesn't matter). I've told people to watch a movie I dislike(and my dislike grows with every passing day) because I keep thinking that maybe I'm missing something.
But yes, sure, I'm unwilling to listen.
If you're talking about what I think you are, then I didn't say that your opinion was wrong I said that you were wrong about a specific thing in the movie. Which you were. You brought up your persecution complex so I corrected you about that.
The only one being a douche is CPT Space Bomb, because he's a dickhead, others are perfectly capable of debating the movie like always have done so. But from what I've seen you just moan about no one listening to you because its an echo chamber. Like you just did, despite no-one up till then saying TFA is better. You can say that you're open to differing opinions but your incredibly bitter comments suggest otherwise. I just think you should tone down on the complaining about bias when your own opinion is coloring your posts to heavily.
**** you for saying Finn doesn't matter though.
Originally posted by Astner
Right...... Except that Finn's plot through the movie has no equivalent in ANH. Nor does Rey's actually. Nor Poe's. Nor Kylo Ren's. Nor Han's. Maz has no equivalent in ANH either. So basically every major characters plotline differs significantly from ANH. Even BB-8's plot is pretty different. Theres no C3PO stand-in and instead of trying to get to Obi-Wan he's sticks with Rey mostly.
Superficial plot structure is superficial. We're not watching the movie to see that shit. Like Lucas says, SW is about the characters and the world foremost.
Originally posted by Astner
Sadly there aren't.
Originally posted by Astner
By itself? No.But no critique would argue that innovation doesn't add to the quality of a work.
In a minor capacity, yes. It's nowhere near the be-all you make it out to be though. And unoriginality doesn't necessarily detract from a movie either.
Finn admits that he had no idea how to disable the shields though. Also its kind of Finn's fault that Rey & BB-8 were even in that jam.
You are right about him being awesome though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he does. I personally think he's ass but most of the good guys usually are. Snoke is where it's at with an honorable mention going Kylo's way.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaYou have to piece together the clues but make no mistake he's the bees knees. I'm the only one who's excited about Snoke. I am a visionary and a true individual unlike the robots like Robbie.
Finn admits that he had no idea how to disable the shields though. Also its kind of Finn's fault that Rey & BB-8 were even in that jam.You are right about him being awesome though.
How? There's next to no information as to what Snoke is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to piece together the clues but make no mistake he's the bees knees. I'm the only one who's excited about Snoke. I am a visionary and a true individual unlike the robots like Robbie.